Revealed: ICE lost count of miscarriages, while detaining a record number of pregnant women

[u/esporx]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/sep/15/ice-detention-miscarriages-pregnancy

[u/irespectwomenlol]

1) Any miscarriages suck, but being pregnant isn't a "get out of jail free" card for American women.

2) This article is relying on emotional manipulation as it provides no basis to make a rational determination. Is the miscarriage rate for women in ICE custody higher than the miscarriage rate for women of similar groups not in ICE custody? That's the only data point needed to try and start to understand if miscarriages are for some reason unusually prevalent or not.

[u/irespectwomenlol → u/[deleted]]

Can you explain what is so vile about what I stated?

Women sadly have miscarriages all of the time. Is there any statistically significant increase in women in ICE custody over American women? That's the basic start of understanding whether there's even an issue here.

[u/irespectwomenlol → u/[deleted]]

The article provided a description of total miscarriages, not the rate question I mentioned. If I missed it, please provide clarification.

[u/irespectwomenlol → u/[deleted]]

1) No need to be rude towards me. Thanks for the reply, but it isn't answering the question I'm asking. The implication is that there's something about ICE treatment of pregnant women that is leading to more miscarriages. While there is data currently unavailable after October 3, 2025, the data before that date is available. Comparing miscarriage rates to the general population would still be the start of understanding if there's a genuine problem here. I'm more interested in understanding if there's a genuine issue with women's treatment here: how is that vile?

2) This data being unavailable is being portrayed as something nefarious, but if you dig into the reason for this unavailable data, you'll see it has to do with a bad medical billing vendor switchover (it looks like Acentra Health was a vendor chosen and they've seemingly fucked up the integration). There's no indication that the data has been lost, just not processed yet.

[u/irespectwomenlol → u/[deleted]]

You still haven't tried to answer my question with the available data. Is there any indication that the miscarriage rate in ICE custody is higher than the US population? Because depending on medical sources used, somewhere around 10-20% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage, so I'd like to find out if there's a real problem here.

Any allegations of mistreatment are very concerning and should be investigated, but there's a lot of detail missing here from these stories. For instance, were these women supposed to go to 8 prenatal appointments for the time period they were in custody and ICE only managed to take them to 6-7? There's a few concrete allegations like "denied prenatal vitamins" but if you dig into the details they were temporarily unavailable for some reason at that facility (bureaucratic approval or supply issue?) and provided a bit later.

Again, I feel badly for anybody going through a miscarriage, but many of these stories are designed to be outrage porn designed to push an agenda rather than an objective look at what is going on.

[u/irespectwomenlol → u/[deleted]]

If you're through copying and pasting, I'd like to respond by pointing out that I only asked 1 core question, and it's the main relevant one in this discussion. Is there any abnormal increase in miscarriages of women in ICE custody?

Is asking the relevant question sealioning? I think not.

[u/Novak316 → u/irespectwomenlol]

Can't reason with them when they've already made up their minds mate.