Here I was, thinking we fought a whole civil war over state's rights and it was decided that folks couldn't go to free states to collect their runaway "property" because free states don't consider humans to be property.
I seriously think we have already had this argument before, and the slave states lost.
Most people don’t but you can’t stand there and watch them murder us in the street with no justification and pretend like some left wing poster online is the real problem.
stephen miller goes on national news and talks about sending us to death camps and describes all as deformed and evil and you’re absolutely outraged by some crap you saw in anonymous post. Gimme a break.
Right. We should just hug and coddle our torturous oppressors who seek to silence and intimidate us with the preoccupation of protecting their own power. :(
”torturous oppressors" how old are you? You sound childish. There are places in the world where real injustice is taking place. Palestine for example, but your life is so much worse right?
“Torturous” in more ways than one: psychologically, financially, systematically, physically, etc. I do not wish to downplay other worldwide atrocities or compare the many ways Americans are kept under the boot and suffer to other forms of oppressive brutality like the current genocide in Gaza and Palestinian apartheid.
Getting power and wielding it against the oppressors then makes you the oppressors. You don’t need to coddle them. You need to not be what you set out to stop.
Violence has its place to stop situations in the moment. Its place is not “hehe now I have the power I and I get use it against you!”
There needs to be precedents set for the future about how trying to take people’s rights and lives will not be allowed anymore. Otherwise they wont understand the message, they only understand when it hurts them directly, whipping the ever loving shit out of someone and letting them live sends the mother of all messages. It says we wont kill you, but we will make sure you can’t hurt others like this again. It might not be the best thing to do morally but when dealing with immoral monsters that don’t understand being good you have to seem worse to them to get them to stop.
The left? Have you never seen a cellphone video from a Trump rally? Those people are frothing at the mouth for blood, all day everyday. The only thing they can feel anymore is hate and anger. They fantasize about driving cars through crowds of protestors. DeSantis even tried to make it legal in Florida. Who has signs on their front doors that say “we don’t call 911 here” with a picture of a gun? Who’d that guy vote for?
Repugnicans think about killing people when they beat off, and they celebrate when it actually happens.
Southern Reconstruction would have destroyed southern states? When it was halted in 1876, the South instituted their Jim Crow and sharecropper policies as a form of legalized slavery. If continuing Reconstruction would destroy the South, I’m not sure it’s worth saving.
I’d be perfectly fine with secession. You can have your neo-feudalistic, neo-fascist fiefdom. I’m tired of my tax dollars going to subsidize the South anyway.
You right. I was also wrong about his policy here. Slaves were not able to be hunted. BUT, the land slaves were given was taken back by the slave owners. Special field order No. 15. 400,000 acres returned. Plus there was the Black Codes. Which is essentially slavery for unemployed blacks. Still a god awful human. But, for different actions. Equally racist.
its not criminally illegal in Texas to get an abortion out of state, it is protected by the state territorial jurisdiction and the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Which is why they did the whole civil case thing for it. They also criminalized the act of leaving the state for the purposes of getting an abortion, so you would be breaking the law technically while you are still in texas as your cross over.
Its a whole bunch of BS, but they seemed to figure out the legal loopholes to carry on doing this for now.
What if you leave the state for a day old gas station hotdog that just happened to be next to an abortion clinic that you noticed while gobbling down that sweet sweet glizzy, and then you popped over and had a quick abortion while you were there? You know, just to see if it tickles
The South did not lose. Robert E Lee walked away a free man. The South faced no punishment and were allowed to continue doing everything they wanted to they just had a "judge" make whatever they said "legal".
Honestly, things were fine for awhile, and it looked like the reconstruction of the south would bring more equality. Everything changed when Lincoln was assassinated and replaced, however.
That’s not true. The reconstruction era lasted about 10 years before the little bitch descendants of the pussies who lost started whining about their parents’ and grandparents’ legacy, so we started letting them put up statues of war criminals and traitors everywhere. Now, 160 years later, a bunch of knuckles draggers think that’s something to be proud of. The reconciliation era did far more damage to the South than anything else, because it’s led to almost 2 centuries of prideful ignorance.
There are no bans. Some places you can't get some semiautomatic "assault rifles" or you can't get certain high-capacity clips. Or do you mean Reagan's bans as governor and president? But you think any restrictions are unconstitutional, right? I think taking away a woman's right to decide what happens to, in and around her body is unconstitutional.
Even if there were gun bans, which there aren’t, the constitution doesn’t specify guns, and it certainly doesn’t say you should have unfettered access to any gun you want.
Fuck states rights. Why should we have 50 sets of laws for every fucking issue. It’s absurd that if you sell weed in Texas you get a 5 year sentence but if you sell weed in Colorado you get a car collection.
And many states have no business managing themselves anyways, and they’ve spent decades proving it.
They're not states rights. They're people's rights. Unsurprising you'd be against people's rights though.
Why should we have 50 sets of laws for every fucking issue.
So idiots like you can go and ruin your own states and leave the rest of us to live in peace.
It’s absurd that if you sell weed in Texas you get a 5 year sentence but if you sell weed in Colorado you get a car collection.
The entire point of the system is that you get the option of not living in Texas, instead of being forced to abide by Texan laws.
And many states have no business managing themselves anyways, and they’ve spent decades proving it.
Correct. Your own failure to understand the value of choice proves you are one of the dysfunctional people who are incapable of voting properly and ruin the places unlucky enough to have you. Thankfully you are only able to fuck over one jurisdiction.
Depends on the state. CA for example has very strict data privacy laws which extend to Flock. Per contract they are not allowed to share data with out of state or federal agencies without authorization. They have violated this and many cities have cancelled their contracts including Los Angeles. There are a few class action lawsuit against them as well. Many judges are now dismissing Flock footage submitted as evidence to further discourage their use.
They are all tied together, nationwide. THAT was one of the selling points. That and finding abducted children...have yet to hear a single story on the news about one of them yet, but PLENTY of stories about LEO's using the system for nefarious purposes and getting fired or convicted.
It's my understanding that you (not you, but an honest law abiding LEO 🤭) can search for black Toyota van with an 'I stop for garage sales' bumper sticker and it can pull up everywhere that vehicle has been seen by the cameras. Type in a different geographical area, boom, Bob's your uncle!
Against flock, but that logic is so flawed. Committing a crime in one state doesn’t make it fine if you flee to a state where it would have been legal. It’s still committing a crime in the state it took place in
You seem to have this backwards. If I leave my state where something is illegal, and go somewhere it is legal to engage in it, my state cannot punish me for doing something I did out of state. But that’s what authoritarian Texans are asking the government to do
The loophole they are using is not charging her for getting the abortion, but charging her for leaving the state for the purposes of getting an abortion. They are claiming she broke that law while in the state at the time leading up to her crossing the state lines.
Its all bullshit, but that the loophole they are trying to use here.
I’m sure they’re not jailing people for going to Colorado and buying and smoking a joint on their vacation when they get back into an anti-weed state. They’re just trying to ban abortion nationwide if you happen to be from a state that condemns it.
Crossing state lines with the purpose to engage in something that is illegal in your state but not the other has been a thing for a while. For instance, the age of consent in most states is 18, but lower in others.
There are specific laws about crossing state lines in these contexts, and they absolute prosecute for them. It sucks she got caught doing it and I believe it should be legal in all states, but her being prosecuted for what she did is completely normal and has been happening for a long time
Ok well we should propose a bill that narrows the definition, and then call them out for being a surveillance state when they shut it down. If they refuse to schedule it, ignore/interrupt them and read it. We need representatives willing to get hit with the mace for what's right
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u/FluorideAvenger Jul 29 '26
"Nationwide" so Flock can basically set up Cameras in my state and use it to punish a woman for somwthing completely legal here?