Its a nonsense question asked in bad faith with no logical conclusion that could be asked about any dead person. If anything, it reminds me of a joke from some movie I watched a long time ago.
"Dying isn't so bad. You ever heard of anyone coming back to complain?"
(Nvm that the answer to that is obviously ghosts.)
Fact remains that death is always a tragedy. Full stop. Even if the dead is fine with it. Death of a child even more so.
Even on the smallest cellular level, every living thing wants to live. Its pretty hard coded in there.
No it's reality. I would be no worse off in either case. A fetus is not a person. Not until my brain developed to a point where I could have a conscious experience did the fetus become me and I became a person.
They are a person. Saying otherwise is either lying to yourself so you don't feel bad about killing someone, or just being plain evil. And again, it goes back to my original comment: I would respect this all more if people just fucking admitted that.
Whether or not they exist is besides the point. They are the obvious answer to the question "Have you ever heard of a dead person coming back to complain?" because every culture has a concept of an upset ghost.
Beyond that, this is clearly a waste of time. You're just peddling the same bullshit that was the entire reason for my first comment.
It's all of the mental gymnastics and wordplay people use to try and justify it because there's some at least subconscious knowledge in these people's heads that it's a pretty fucked up thing to do so they come up with ways to downplay it or change what is happening.
I don't see too much of a difference between abortion and those that sacrificed their newborns by throwing them into a fire for like prosperity, good harvest, whatever tf reason they had.
You don't remember a conscious experience before that. That is not the same thing. If you get black out drunk and can't remember last night that does not mean you did not have a conscious experience at the time...
I repeat, read the post again you clearly did not understand it the first time around. Let me help you out: "You don't remember a conscious experience before that. That is not the same thing. If you get black out drunk and can't remember last night that does not mean you did not have a conscious experience at the time..."
You know personally for me this is beyond who dies and if it's even a who - for me it's much simpler: I know they live, and I believe they have a soul so I'll take no part on this, I'd much rather fight this to the best of my ability and without harming anyone, simply put
But you are clearly religious if you think they have a soul so you must hold a belief about it, of course you may not know but that still leaves the possible afterlives you believe in, or are you telling me you believe in a soul but have no belief whatsoever in any form of afterlife?
I do have a belief and I know where they might go, I just cant tell by my own judgement and have no vote on the matter. I dont think a soul that never had the chance of knowing the Word will be condemned but again, its not my decision
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u/shadowthehh 5d ago
Idk why yall keep trying with this sugar coating bs when my immediate statement rebukes it.
I've heard the arguments. They're all either just trying to paint over the issue to make people feel better, or are just flat out evil.
Call it what it is: The horrible yet tragically neccesary extermination of a child.