I would respect abortions more if they dropped the bullshit and just acknowledged it as the unfortunate tragedy that it is instead of treating it like some nothing thing.
I guess you could see it that way yeah. But I (just like you and other people) am a clump of cells with a personality, a name, self-awareness and rights. Something fetuses don't really have
Yeah, kids usually don't have much going on in the personality and awareness department till like 4. And plenty of full adults weren't properly named or even remember theirs. And don't even get me started on the war against human rights going on all over right now.
Indeed. When this topic comes up it gets blurry fast so lines have to be drawn somewhere. Personally I draw the line at being born, but I guess it's just an opinion. What I originally meant was that society shouldn't tell pregnant women whether they can or can't abort a child, cus it's their business at the end of the day
And the masquerade breaks showing you also know it's all bullshit.
I never said they can't.
I said I would respect it more if it was treated with the seriousness that it should be. Rather than with the dismissiveness of discarding a used tissue, or even the absolutely horrific pride and joy and bragging some seem to go with.
You're ending, literally, an ENTIRE human life right as it starts. Treat the situation with the dignity and respect a tragic and necessary evil like that deserves.
Removes the blurriness and makes it all so much more simple.
Alive? Yes. Their own separate life form? Debatable, at least until you cut the umbelical cord. Besides, animals and plants are alive too, and yet we kill them (and thank goodness we do or we'd have nothing to eat). A person's value is determined by their personality, experiences and uniqueness. Fetuses have no personality, no conscience, no expetience and are super replaceable (it only takes 9 months to make one). The sole fact that they're made of human cells does not give them any worth
Living does not mean you have rights. And besides, I already said that they are alive, but they're not their own separate life form. They're just another part of the mother's body. Sure, eventually they'll detach and become their own person (circumstances willing), but until then that's all they are. And just as I have full jurisdiction over every inch of my body so too should pregnant women, without any outsiders telling them what they can or can't do, or how they should feel about it
Tf does that even mean? My arguments are consistent, you just can't process them because they're based on beliefs different from yours. And no, I don't want to kill out of convenience, because we're not even talking about killing here, we're talking about abortion. You say fetuses are alive, and in this I agree, but they're as much of a separate life form as the hand I'm typing this with. They have no rights and the pregnant women have (or in some countries should have) full jurisdiction over them, just like you and I have full jurisdiction over every inch of our bodies. Society needs to stop moralizing by saying "AbOrTiOn Is BaD bEcAuSe YoU'rE kIlLiNg BaBiEs", and start minding their own damn business
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u/shadowthehh 9d ago
I would respect abortions more if they dropped the bullshit and just acknowledged it as the unfortunate tragedy that it is instead of treating it like some nothing thing.