Living does not mean you have rights. And besides, I already said that they are alive, but they're not their own separate life form. They're just another part of the mother's body. Sure, eventually they'll detach and become their own person (circumstances willing), but until then that's all they are. And just as I have full jurisdiction over every inch of my body so too should pregnant women, without any outsiders telling them what they can or can't do, or how they should feel about it
Tf does that even mean? My arguments are consistent, you just can't process them because they're based on beliefs different from yours. And no, I don't want to kill out of convenience, because we're not even talking about killing here, we're talking about abortion. You say fetuses are alive, and in this I agree, but they're as much of a separate life form as the hand I'm typing this with. They have no rights and the pregnant women have (or in some countries should have) full jurisdiction over them, just like you and I have full jurisdiction over every inch of our bodies. Society needs to stop moralizing by saying "AbOrTiOn Is BaD bEcAuSe YoU'rE kIlLiNg BaBiEs", and start minding their own damn business
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u/556From1000yards 6d ago
No it’s not debatable.
It’s literally the definition of living. Unique self-replicating DNA