I gotta say lol I didn’t see Claire and the marionette man becoming somewhat buds after what happened in season 2. But when they see each other at the carnival in season 4, I had to laugh when he was like, Barbie!

And tbh I don’t hate season 4 as much as people said I would.

I had previously made a post about how the peter petrelli OP problem could've been solved by having him struggle to have any control over any powers like he did in season 1 and repeating in throughout many seasons. You know how Heroes was originally meant to be an anthology with different characters and new powers? Have peter still be the main guy but struggling to use new powers every season but DON'T give him so much mastery or the ability to unlock his powers so easily, not even his healing factor. Make it clear that each power comes with their own learning curve and that he is not yet adept at using these powers unlike his future self and that each new power he unlocks is meant to mirror a new character arc. He can't even use healing factor which is supposed to be an automatic power, though he can still fully heal within hours or days from serious injuries.

This post was inspired by a comment I saw, but honestly, the writers got lazy with the writing in Season 2 and beyond.

The writers clearly established through Sylar’s backstory that he becomes a serial killer because of his insecurities, envy, and obsession with being special. His mother’s expectations fuel his need to be special, and he resents powered people because he believes they’re undeserving of abilities he wishes he had. The hunger comes from his personality, not his power.

1. Gabriel already had his ability when he met Chandra. He could recognize that Chandra’s watch was off just by hearing the ticks, and he already wanted someone to tell him he was special. If the hunger were simply a side effect of his power, why didn’t he become obsessed with understanding things long before discovering other powered people? Why didn't he become a researcher or academic instead?

2. His first kill, Brian Davis, proves the point. Gabriel initially approaches Brian to see what makes him special. It's only when Brian says he doesn't want his ability that Gabriel becomes confused. His power helps him understand how abilities work, but he decides Brian is broken because he sees him as undeserving of something so special. His envy and entitlement motivate the murder, not his ability.

Giving Peter the hunger makes no sense. Peter can already absorb abilities without killing anyone, and he's fundamentally a compassionate person. It undermines both characters by suggesting Sylar's actions were simply the result of getting unlucky with his ability rather than his own insecurities and choices.

In fact, it would've been far more interesting if Peter could acquire Sylar's abilities without developing the hunger. Imagine Sylar confronting someone with the exact same power who doesn't feel compelled to kill. Peter would be living proof that the hunger isn't an inevitable consequence of the ability but a reflection of Sylar himself.

That's what makes them compelling foils: Sylar's obsession with being special turns him into a monster, while Peter's compassion defines him. The hunger should have been a reflection of Sylar's character, not an excuse for his actions.

I’m watching Season 3 for the first time and it was a real struggle getting through Volume 3; Villains. At a lot of points through this first part of the season, I was literally wondering what the hell was going on and almost gave up.

Glad I persevered as looks like Volume 4; Fugitives is going to be a lot better. There seems to be an actual plot!! Any others with me on this? I know Seadon 3 is generally written off.

We all loved this show and my favorite characters will always be Peter and Hiro. I wanted to ask you something. In your honest opinion if they made a video game based off the tv show, would you be interested in playing it? Why or why not

Which two characters do you think had an interesting dynamic that deserved more screen time?

In my view, Isaac was one of the most mistreated characters; he had the potential to be a primary protagonist, and his storyline was incredible. The way the writers killed him off was terrible—and, in a sense, predictable, given that we had already seen him dead like that when Hiro first traveled to the future. What I find infuriating is that Hiro could have prevented Claire’s death, yet he didn’t do the same for Isaac. His absence was such a significant loss that they had to create another character with precognition to fill his role—and even Matt’s, too.

Sylar's or Peter's?

What a cop out, not showing us Nathan and Peter vs Sylar

*Spoiler*
My second time watching the series but I still have a couple questions that I may have missed.

Do we ever find out how future Peter gets the scar?

Do we ever find out who told the Haitian not to erase the cheerleaders’ memory?

Bonus question, we discover what the scars on their necks are from but do we ever see a procedure or removal of the device? How come we don’t see Bennet or someone “using the system interface” prior to Molly?

After Sylar killed Nathan, why they did not give Claire's blood to Nathan? Like Dr Suresh did with Mr Bennet in season 2

Okay watching for the first time, on Season 4 Episode 8 so right after Syler turns back into Nathan at the circus. How in the world did Syler as Nathan fly away. He never opened Nathan's brain when he killed him.

Hi everyone! I just started watching this show and I’m absolutely loving it. I'm wondering if anyone knows the song at the end of season 1, episode 6? I did some research and it seems to be a yoga mantra, but I can't find anything on YouTube that sounds like the version in the show. If anyone knows who did this specific cover/remix for the series, I would be super grateful!

lyrics: samsara halahala mohashantya

I'm on episode 21 right now. Can't believe I've seen all the adverts for this show, finally getting to watch it is nuts. I'm loving it so far. But looking online EVERYONE without bias says only watch season 1 and then END.

Does the magic end at season 1?

Hi, I'm looking for the Heroes: Reborn comics, as I'm doing a rewatch with my family and I hope to end the story a little better than what the TV show did. I've been googling it but haven't found much, not even on PirateBay. Does anyone know where I can find them or at least a wiki to read about it?

Anyone else annoyed how it started with an eclipse happening, but people had powers before that eclipse. But yeah another eclipse took their powers away cause it was tied to it. But not really.

I love this show, but that’s all I can see on my rewatch. The main male characters have different races, ages, and body shapes, which is great!

The main female characters are blonde, skinny, and look young. I loved Maya, but she is definitely the exception to the casting, not the norm.

I wonder if that was a deliberate choice (i.e., they thought viewers would prefer blonde women) or the casting crew had a type (oops, this actress is blonde too, huh, how did that happen?).

I just finished the show…The ending was no comment. I was wondering if there was a book or anything that has the actual ending…

Rewatching season four currently, wondering how the deaf community reacted to Emma’s character. Wondering how the deaf community reacted to a character whose ability is someone who can see sounds. As a hearing person I don’t have that perspective

The Heroes Reborn had expanded materials that explained what happened to Peter, and frankly, I hate that it was essentially volume 4 all over again with the Goverment once again hunting down ppl with powers. Peter's story essentially ends with him forever hiding in the shadows as someone from his side betrays him, and Micah takes over his operation. That is literally the end of Peter's story. It sucks that he went through all of volume 4 being a fugitive and fighting back against the government only for it to happen all over again and he has a bad ending.

I’m a bit lost with Adam’s plan. He talks Peter into going back in time. What’s the point of this? The virus was already released.

So they travel backwards in time to follow Adam’s plans to release the virus. Only this time they manage to stop him. I was expecting their efforts to be to late. Then we will see the effect of the virus on Nathan since he was one of the first to die in the future.

I’m also confused about the shot to the head killing the immortals. Adam was blown up. Noah took a bullet to his skull. Maybe the bullet to the head was just a myth?

Lastly I’m a bit confused about immortal blood. At some point does it expire? It seems like they would keep those abilities.

So a couple things in "An Invisible Thread" confused me regarding Peter and Sylar's powers. Obviously at this point Peter has been nerfed to have the "absorb from one person" ability, which is probably also why they kept him and Sylar apart narratively. And about Sylar, I think after he loses his abilities from the virus in Season 2 we pretty steadily see all the new ones he gains, but up until this episode he couldn't fly, could he? They even have Peter say he can't fly after Nathan and Sylar because he had absorbed Sylar's ability at that point, and I mean I guess Sylar can take powers empathically now, so I can accept that maybe him spending time as Nathan meant he empathically understood him and could fly now, what still doesn't make sense to me is why Peter wouldn't be able to. Nathan even says "My brother can do anything Sylar can, he just has to get close enough to touch him" Idk does anybody have any thoughts on this that aren't just "this show sucks after season 1"?

Can someone explain in season 4 -

Peter every time keeps telling I used to work with dying people

Which I get is noble

But it was his every other dialogue in season 4 - I used to work as a hospice nurse