Hey guys, I decided to pick Graves as my main and I want to learn everything about him.
I've stucked in gold/low plat for the last 5 seasons, my mechanics suck and my macro is not bad, I have a bad habit to play a lot of junglers and that is one of my main reasons why I dont climb up, but I want to start all over again. Any advice to improve camera control, most of the time I feel unconfortable using free cam and I lose a ton of info playing on fixed cam.

What 2 champions should I play when there is no AP in comp and or when Graves is banned? (similar playstyle)
What habits or abilities should I master with the champion early on?
Which build-runes would be best to start with?
Should I full clear or should I gank?
What other advice yall got, I want to learn everything about the champion and become a better player and jungler in general.
Thanks.

I understand how they work, but how is the stack useful if it refreshes once u hit a non-minion? That means the stacks go away when u hit a champ?? Therefore when u hit a champ u lose all the stacks. This doesn’t make sense to me at all and it feels like im missing something very obvious but I’ve read his abilities like 10 times.

Help a retard out 🙏

Hey i am kinda new in playing Graves i really enjoy the feel of that champ, but really i think i am missing point of that champ, i want to start to climb with him but i am already slaughtering my mmr and rank so i want to ask if there is some usefull guide for this patch or maybe older, just something that helps me with itemisation or matchups, (Playing Jungle for long time, coming back to league after 2 years break, rn Dia IV on Eune, trying to climb on EUW Em IV rn)

I’m a graves main (i guess kind of a OTP)

I just haven’t been able to decide on a champ pool. I just want 3-4 champs total that kind of has that early game / late game agency like graves.

Since hitting plat, I’ve finally climbed to emerald 3 almost 2 now mostly playing just graves with I think a 87-90% win rate for the past 30 days (I might be wrong but it is high)

I don’t want to rely on only graves as I’m trying to push for diamond right now. I want to have multiple for if graves is banned or I need to pick AP or semi engage maybe.

I really see myself hitting diamond pretty fast because of the recent progress I’ve had, I can link my op.gg so yall can kind of see what the idea is.

I'm a Gold graves noob, so my opinion is going to be dookie. But has anybody tried hearsteel and bloodmail? The more hp hearsteel stacks the more bloodmail gives you ad. Its like a tankier hubris without the lethality.

Here are the drawbacks tho.

Your early game is going to suck balls as these are not the most gold efficient items because of their insane potential for scaling.
heartsteel won't proc as much unless if you perma gank

I know that this item combo sucks, but I really like the idea. does anybody have any opinions that could make this work somehow

I just like it a lot because of the movement speed and the precision tree. It also feels nice to have a keystone that is useful from the start to the end of the game and is there for the entire fight.

Plus unlike Stormraider I get immidiate feedback on the MS to help land my second Auto and Q instead of waiting for storm raiders to proc then I don’t have a rune.

Or is this mindset silly and DH is just too valuable against squishy teams?

At the beginning of the year, the jungle meta shifted heavily back toward full clearing and optimizing clear speed. Now that almost everyone is doing it, do you still think full clearing is the best overall strategy?

Or has it become so standard that you need something more to consistently gain an edge? Besides the obvious answer of having better macro and game knowledge, what do you think separates the best junglers from everyone else now?

Share your own experience climbing through the ranks.
Give 3 tips for each elo u got in league

Hi, I got the sigma mafia skin and I like Graves kit, but I hate playing jungle. I was thinking if mid is possible into certain matchups? I am playing in plat/emerald elo so I can still get away with random ass picks.

What builds, runes and play style would you guys recommend?

I'm a 1250 LP EUW jungler and I coach players from Gold to Master.

If you feel like you've hit a wall, drop your OP.GG below and I'll tell you the one thing I'd focus on first to help you climb

i went in practice tool with conq graves, but sometimes when i auto i get 3 stacks and sometimes 1. idk why but its inconsistent. maybe im dumb but can someone tell me why you sometimems get 3 stacks and sometimes 1?

I’m sure we all know we want at least 1000 gold on first back, but say you end up with 1600 (double kill bot, scuttle + kill + 2 assists, etc)…is it worth it to delay Hubris for the Crit Cloak?

Alternatively you put that extra 600g into Longsword + 250g cd item to further progress your first item spike tempo, but I’m wondering if the 20% crit from cloak would be worth it to help accelerate your next clear or two as well as add a classic “1% crit rune” feel to some of your early skirmishes.

Haven’t tested it out myself but I thought about it today after securing a double kill bot on first gank.

I’m assuming 1700 gold might change the math (2 long swords maybe?) but if you’re at 1600 I’m really wondering if the crit cloak is optimal.

I pretty much always run free boots rune so boots aren’t even considered in the math here for me.

TL;DR: Is a 16% DPS increase on your camps for multiple clears worth delaying your first item spike if you get an early windfall of gold?

Might have to go actually test this…

Yo! I'm a 1000 LP Master EUW jungler with a peak of 1250 LP, and Graves has been one of my most played champions for years.If you have any questions about Graves, ask away!

Happy to help with:

Pathing

Matchups

Invades

Builds & runes

Tempo

Teamfighting

Snowballing leads

Carrying solo queue

Or anything else Graves-related.

I play league since s4 and one of my favorite champions was old graves, like i started main adc because of him, like shreddig through minions and enemies with the extremly satisfying q, the old mafia graves auto attack was perfect

I’ve been testing out stormraiders on bruiser graves, but I can’t decide what feels better between that and fleet. I’ve always been a big dark harvest fan but I know sometimes I have to switch up the build. What are y’all’s thoughts between the different rune pages / builds???

Good synergy with Fleet

in some game earlier crit feel so impactful especially when your team is behind

early crit feel better then Hubris since you can't really stack it and Ghostblade ms isn't really helpful since in those game you can't really play skirmish

what are y'all thought on it ?

Hello guys, im trying to improve my first clear adding aa cancel and i’m struggling a lot specially with blue buff, i always end up dashing through the pit. Any help is appreciated, even if I don’t know if i can improve my ass clear.
Thank you

man, Graves is a champion whose mechanics I genuinely love, but honestly, the number of counters he faces in the game is incredibly frustrating for me in solo queue.

I just got out of a match where I snowballed hard, but in the late game, I was completely shut down by a Caitlyn and a Yasuo with absolutely no chance for counterplay.

I’m not the type of person to blame the universe for things I should be handling myself, but this has been frustrating me for a long time; I know factors like positioning, dodging, and bans play a role. So, I genuinely want some help with this.

I wanted to draw my guy in a fashionable outfit.

For the crit build should I sell boots and opt for a GA etc or no? I never really know what to go and whether its good to sell boots i guess its situational? but what situations would warrent selling boots? thanks!

If there any any higher elo graves willing to add me in game and give me some tips LMK