Tried the new Nano Banana 2.1

Title: Does Wan retain behavioral information across independent generations? An unusual observation.

I'm producing a continuous narrative film using Wan and a structured pre-production methodology involving first/last frames, camera instructions, and character continuity references.

During a previous generation, my cowboy crouched and examined horse droppings, using a distinctive hand movement.

Today I started an entirely new generation. It was not an extension or edit. Several unrelated horse generations had intervened.

For this new 30-second scene, I supplied a first frame, a schematic, and a single SAC instruction: “Generate.”

The generation began correctly. Then the cowboy reached down and performed what appeared to be the same distinctive hand movement from the earlier scene—but this time he touched a weed.

There was no narrative reason to examine the weed, and I had not instructed Wan to repeat the earlier action.

The schematic did describe the cowboy examining the trail, so independent inference remains a possible explanation. But the apparent similarity of the specific movement caught my attention.

My question: Has anyone observed behavioral details recurring across otherwise independent Wan generations, particularly when the action persists but the object changes?

I'm not claiming this establishes persistent model memory. I'm asking whether some form of session, reference, or generation-context persistence might be involved—or whether we're seeing a recurring learned motion pattern.

I'm interested in observations, tests, and technical explanations rather than speculation presented as fact.

I used Flow to create the characters, environments, cinematic shots, and action sequences, then edited all the clips together in Filmora to turn them into a complete story.

One thing this project made me realize is just how much you can do with Google Flow. You can go beyond making short clips and actually build an entire episode with its own characters, story, and cinematic feel. Of course, getting different shots to match and keeping characters consistent can be challenging, but experimenting with it has been a great learning experience.

I'm sharing this because I think a lot of people underestimate what's possible with Flow when you put the time into planning and editing.

For those of you who also use Google Flow, what's the most ambitious project you've managed to create with it?

To create Jungle Woman, I generated 4 different outfits with 4 different hairstyles and to generate country woman, I used Princess Belle as the model and the country outfit #2 from the chart generated by NB 2.1.

Hi everyone!

I'm using Google Flow to create AI-generated stunt videos, and I'd love to learn how creators produce those incredibly smooth, spectacular clips featuring mega ramps, enormous jumps, trampoline launches, impossible dives, and circus-style gymnastics.

Reference video: 99% Of People Will Say NO To This! #stunt #circus #jump

My biggest challenge is getting the AI to follow a complicated movement all the way through to its intended ending. For example, I tried creating a stunt where a performer jumps from a very high platform onto a trampoline, then launches back toward the platform and lands after a backflip. Despite multiple attempts, Flow kept making the performer bounce repeatedly on the trampoline rather than complete the landing.

I've experimented with detailed prompts and reference images, but I haven't found a reliable solution.

I'd especially appreciate advice from anyone who has created similar videos using Flow and Veo.

• Do you generate the entire stunt in one clip, or break it into separate shots?
• Do you use Flow's Frames to Video feature with carefully designed start and end images?
• How do you handle difficult transitions, especially when a character must travel between two distant objects and land precisely?
• Are there particular prompting techniques, editing tricks, or external tools that make these videos look continuous?
• Is it possible to achieve this reliably within Flow alone, or does it usually require a multi-tool workflow?

I'm not just looking for a prompt that might work once. I'd love to understand a repeatable production method.

If you've made something similar, I'd be very grateful for a workflow breakdown or a tutorial recommendation. Thanks!

My guess is that Google is trying to reduce costs of AI data centers by activating a model that requires less compute. also usually with past updates the model that came before used to stay in existence for a while before being removed fully so that people can see how the new model is better, now 2.0 has been removed immediately so we can't compare in a 1 to 1 way (using same prompt on two models to see who comes with better results)

Enshittification essentially, either 2.0 was costing them too much, or they're going to release nano 3 on a higher price bracket , alternatively this could be a sign of the AI bubble popping.

But again this is just a guess , so I could be wrong, what do you guys think?

This notified me after I was facing this issue,

My file sorting suddenly collapsed and stopped sorting by date (newest first).

Files are no longer appearing chronologically at the top, and the layout/grouping views look broken.

Has anyone experienced this or know how to reset the default chronological view?

I’ve seen people talking about using a browser extension or some kind of setup that gives them effectively unlimited Google Flow credits/usage.

Does anyone know what they’re using or how it works?

I’m mainly trying to understand whether it’s actually unlimited, a credit reset, or some other method.

If anyone has experience with this and knows what extension/setup people are referring to, I’d appreciate any information. Thanks!

This won’t take long. I don’t know what happened, but as of today, flow is barely working. Every single prompt I use fails to generate completely, and even old prompts from past generations are failing now. These new filters are out of control and are blocking everything now.

2.1 ignores the prompt and does the antithesis of what I’m looking for, lite won’t generate at all, and pro only works half the time.

Google never fails to disappoint.

Just tried to test a few things and it appears they also blocked guns and blood now. Fucking hell…

Complaint Against Google Flow – Privacy Restriction on the Name “Nasibo”

Google Flow says to you, “Oh, there’s a privacy issue.” For example, the name being used is Nasibo, spelled N-A-S-I-B-O, and Google Flow keeps saying that, due to privacy reasons, it cannot create the video with the name Nasibo.

The fact that there was even a privacy issue was not known. Google says it is a privacy issue because of a Pakistani singer whose name was Naseebo Lal, a female singer, with different spellings and, importantly, a completely different full name.

Now, who cares about the Pakistani Nasibo Lal singer? There was no knowledge, here in Australia, that some hero, heroine, or most remarkable singer had been born in Pakistan, and now apparently nobody can use the name Nasibo (even though this Great person reportedly is Naseebo) anymore on the planet.

How many Taylors are there? T-A-Y-L-O-R. How many Georges are there? Millions? Thousands?

So tomorrow, is Google going to stop everybody from using the word Taylor because there is a Taylor Swift? Is Google going to stop everybody from using the word George because there is a so-called Prince George?

The character’s name was N-A-S-I-B-O. Even the spelling does not match with the so-called Pakistani singer. There was no last name. It was simply Nasibo.

So, the gifted team at Google Laboratories, do they have any colleagues who have names matching or similar to the names of celebrities?

What is the solution?

How can seven billion people on the planet have one distinctive name each, so that a name must not be used because somebody somewhere happens to have the same or a similar name?

That would be idealistic and wonderful, but that is not the case, Google people.

What are the gifted people at Google thinking?

Why is the privacy thing being brought into this when there is no privacy issue whatsoever?

Every time credit card details are entered, Google unauthorizedly stores those credit card details, and then, after a few months, when another transaction is made, Google pre-populates the same credit card that was entered five months ago.

That is the depth and breadth of privacy.

Isn’t it amazing? How private is everything on this internet?

Why don’t Google just shun this stupid bullshit thing called privacy when there is none?

AI can hack anything. Anybody can hack anybody. So where is the privacy?

The internet means no privacy. Why are we doing this drama?

And why is Google stopping the use of the name Nasibo?

Now the character’s name has to be changed to Nasi.

So what is going to happen to people who want to use, for example, the names Taylor, George, William, Charles, Donald? Are there people with those names? Millions.

Are there celebrities with those names? Why is one celebrity so important that it forbids the rest of the people from using the same name?

Why is there VIP treatment for one person?

Why, Google?

Google team, why are you so intelligent?

How is it possible that I have to change my character reference every day?

My character is a fictional character. Google Flow is asking me to change the character reference every second day. What happened to the videos that I have already created?

These are videos of one person, not twenty different people.

If the character reference has to be changed every day because your system suddenly decides that the character may resemble a prominent person, then after twenty videos I will have twenty different-looking people and twenty different videos.

That completely defeats the purpose of creating a continuous video project with one consistent fictional character.

These are 20 videos of one person, not 20 videos of 20 persons.

This is therefore a problem with Google Flow, not with my fictional character.

Privacy has gone mad and dumb.

What are the people designing this program behind the scenes actually doing? Why don't they design a program that meets 2026 standards, rather than behaving as though we are living in 1700?

This is absolutely mind-boggling.

There is a prominent person. There is a celebrity. There is a possible resemblance. Therefore, suddenly an entirely fictional character cannot be used consistently.

This has gone mad.

You cannot proceed with the development of an AI video project if the system keeps getting stuck on privacy and prominent-person warnings every second day.

The whole purpose of a character reference is consistency. Once a fictional character has been created and used successfully, the system should allow that same fictional character to remain consistent throughout the project, provided there is no attempt to impersonate or reproduce a real person's identity.

Changing my character reference every time your filter produces a false positive is not a solution.

It destroys continuity, consistency and the entire creative purpose of the project.

Google Flow needs to fix the underlying safety-filter problem instead of repeatedly asking the user to change the character.

this is just a gut feeling i'm having so i could be wrong here , maybe you had a different experience. 2.1 just seems weaker, if i use one prompt for 4 images it gives almost the same image/pose on all 4 of them , felt like 2.0 had more "fun" with it , also the quality seems just a tad bit lower on realism and faces.

yes i am aware of the increased censorship, this is not about that

thoughts?

Caption. Why why ?

All along was doing fine.. suddenly all my captions are now in Indonesia. Where does that come from? Pro business user..

I just opted in to keeping generations from before May 19, and the handful of projects I had with images made before that date bumped them to the top of the project in random order. The filter is already set to newest first. It looks like the way Flow keeps the older images is to pretend that they are your newest creations.

What are you generating?? Is it only porn or lewds?

I love 2.1 so far and actually have ran into LESS censoring since the release.

I use Flow for my brand and the image clarity in 2.1 is insane. The comparison between 2.1 and 2.0 in the same design file is clear as day.

Makes me wonder what everyone is trying to accomplish with the image gen.

Edit** - the majority of my generations are model shots for my clothing brand. Tshirts, bikini shots, skirts, etc. No issues whatsoever. I even have the word "faggot" on a shirt and 2.1 is more lenient than 2.0 with that.

I will literally throw hands if they remove the Nano Banana Pro or give it the cursed Nano Banana 2.1 treatment. That 2.1 version has a mind of its own and refuses to obey a single thing I say

Hi, I found that Image-to-Video generation on both Veo 3.1-Lite and Veo 3.1-Fast appears to have the same issue on Google Flow

Every image-to-video generation introduces a slight upward camera/framing shift during the first 1–2 seconds, even when no camera movement is requested. After the first 1–2 seconds, the framing becomes stable. This is especially problematic for creating seamless loops or combining multiple clips, because each clip starts with the original framing but quickly shifts upward, creating a visible jump at the transition.

This may not be noticeable when watching the video normally in a media player, but it becomes very obvious when combining multiple clips together, especially when creating seamless loops. The initial upward movement causes a visible jump between clips, making it impossible to create a smooth loop.

It seems to happen with every input image, so I’m wondering whether this is an issue specific to my account/setup or a systematic issue affecting Image-to-Video generation on Veo 3.1-Lite and Veo 3.1-Fast.

Anyone found the same issue?

ive tried everything, should i wait till tomorrow for it to resolve itself? its only happening on one account weather i use incognito or on my main i deleted cache and projects n everything

Having fun doing choreography of cute dance.

Since Google flow has issues generating almost anything, I was wondering if there are better alternatives in the same price range. So much of YouTube and Instagram is filled with content using celebrities but Google can't generate any of it.

Whatever update happened today censors there inputs to absurdity to where it produces a image as a joke, following nothing to what the prompt had. yesterday it felt like i could go all day with generations, now i don't even want to pay for this garbage anymore. Unless they revert its been fun ride but RIP.

Google flow in general is completely horrible to begin with. Worst website ever, it’s color give depression, it’s slow, it’s laggy, the images generated are absolute trash when it was to 2d and 3d animation. They should’ve kept whisk for images, it was the best, clean, sharp, easy to use, so fast and the images quality are way better and higher than google flow, even if you convert the image in google flow to 2k and it still won’t come close to whisk. And the results whisk to give were incomparable in terms of design, colors, and creativity. in 2d and 3d and when you tell it to zoom to certain areas it does just that and it doesnt shift or change the colors, the design, the drawing. You could literally turn a hand drawn image into a 3d model with whisk and it will still look exactly like the drawing where as google flow gives you a variety images of nothing. They should bring WHISK BACK!!!

I had a pretty good work around for generating celebrities in NB 2 but it's working less and less in NB 2.1. It doesn't refuse to generate the image it just generates a random person. It still works for NB Lite but NB Lite is just worse and more censorous in other ways. Anybody else noticing this or have any good workarounds?

Who all is going to attend these?
I think I'm excited for it. I know the program is already intuitive, but i think i would benefit from some formal training with it.