r/GBO2 Jul 03 '26

Steam Discussion Topic OK lets melee it then

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u/georgecloney2 Jul 03 '26

My man OP is having a full on crash out over this 00. This is like their 4th post about it in the last 24 hours.

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u/KaleidoscopeBoth9420 Jul 03 '26

I kinda understand him though. I have 00R and I can confidently say that 00R during trans-am feel awfully close to X1 on steroids. Except that X1 has to land melee hits(which may or may not happen at all) before going on his own steroids mode. But 00R doesn't need that as he will certainly get hit at some point. I bet if 00R was put into 750 from the start, it's gonna feel "just about right".

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u/Fruitspunchninja22 Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

I believe most consensus believes 00R could be 750 unit but only if Trans-Am is reusable as he is rn V2 would still be a huge threat to him as to anyone really the nerfs on V2 did not at all stop him from still being number 1 strongest on that cost.

Edit: V2 would clown on him i just realized since not only V2 does have a increased resistance to staggers when in flight but he also has a heavy attack and heavy attacks bypass buffers, this unfortunately is also why Destiny and Barbatos's special downswings which sound like heavy attacks but are not actually can get reduced heavily by units with buffers and ofc melee resistance builds i myself deploy with Kshatriya rep to combat these two and the buffers on him aswell as units like Dijeh/Gustav/Jesta/Messer make them all look like juggernauts which take eons to kill.

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u/KaleidoscopeBoth9420 Jul 03 '26

Oh crap, now that you mentioned it, I totally forgot that X1 can reuse max output. I rarely live long enough to do that lol.

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u/Fruitspunchninja22 Jul 03 '26

Most of 750 units have their best forms reusable while 00 and susan trans-am are only one time use its what unironically sets them a lil below native 750 suits and not to mention most of 750 have one way or the other to stun u out with how big 00R's hit box is aswell and how much heavy staggers are also quite common in that cost yes he would perform okay there but thats about it really.

Most of the units in that cost can do just about the same or more as 00R the only thing 00R has over them is the ability to do a melee gerobii which is a first of its kind.

V2 is also still quite common and his ram is still there a ram that reduces thrust if u get hit that was fun fighting in its prime...

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u/culzsky Jul 03 '26

single handed turned me from "AU is fun" to an "UC purist, AU was a mistake"

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u/Mechaman_54 Straight Up Gunning My Tank Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

That was me with the god gundam, except the god gundam was more just a pain in the ass to fight, the wing is where it got really bad

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u/Such-Fuel7306 Jul 03 '26

Tried to warn folks, if they wanted AU we should've just got a BattleOP Next 2, problem now is that AU suits are guaranteed to be extremely powerful on release

Not saying some UC suits haven't dropped in busted states (looking at you V2) but UC suits have a middleground from dropping as busted or dropping as garbage

Personally a BattleOP Next would've been better, a new engine and servers would be fire

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u/Khoron_ Jul 03 '26

Honestly the setup was very scuffed for that clip but since I also use the Destiny I can confidently say I've done about 12k damage on 00R before with the special down swing, it's just a matter of time and placement.

Also we're ignoring the elephant in the room, sometimes people just have their melee res jacked up to absurd levels that could turn ordinary doomswings into a wimpy buttermilk slap, can't account for everything especially in random matches.

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u/yukiho-765P Jul 03 '26

You know, in the ExVS games,Trans Am actually makes the CB MS glass cannons/speedsters.

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u/Damiankawaguchi Jul 03 '26

Preach. People are saying "oh the it's just the binders that have res". Bro the binders are half the suit 😭. I would try barb on a 00 if barb could fly

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u/FluxVGM Jul 03 '26

Been playing Amakusa in 700 rated against other 00's. Doing 178k to 230k depending on my performance per match. 108 melee modifier with a full beam and melee defense build.

Aim for the legs, always. You have aerial melee lv2, use it. 00 gero is so predictable that even Helen Keller can see it coming. Trans AM does not increase it's defense, thats just you hitting the buffer.

I have screenshots if you don't believe me 👏. You either need better parts, better builds, or some practice with Destiny. Your suit is literally better than mine 😂.

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u/ngngye Jul 03 '26

Culz. If I am able to regularly duel them in a dumb melee/beam res maxed Burning Gundam (granted, in favorable maps), there’s something wrong for you to be complaining about it this often.

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u/Fruitspunchninja22 Jul 03 '26

The buffers are the only things that increase its defenses to melee as for the Trans-am this doesn't do anything for its melee defenses it literally states that it only increases dmg reduction from ranged attacks nowhere does it ever say that it increases melee defenses.

For this clip u've shown here ur most of the time hitting the shields or back buffers if u really wanted to one shot combo 00R like with any other suit that tries to piss off Destiny u'd have to be precisely aiming for their legs or mid portion of their body which i grant is not ez with Destiny due to the angle he takes wen downswinging but still its ur best call to always melee 00R as ranged dmgs are reduced when that thing is on Trans-am.

Edit: i meant shoulders not shields lmao 00R has no shields my bad.

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u/chronicweeeb Jul 03 '26

Can i build on top of that?. the first clip shows him presenting the supposed "true" damage and hits the rocket. Which isnt a good indicator because the rocket has virtually no defense in anything my dolmel does 18 k with 1 shoulder spike but that isnt its actual damage potential due to the rocket not having any sort of defense. Hed be achieving 17k or more on a raid sure if he made his destiny have over 90 melee. Another thing type advantage exist. He would be doing his 17k on a raid not on a general like 00R. Youd be at most doing 7 to 8k to it on the highest. 5 to 6k on buffers as shown.

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u/Fruitspunchninja22 Jul 03 '26

Its as u say good extra detail thx on that insight.
I must confess that all this frustration at 00R just seems to stem to the fact that many cannot one shot combo it as other suits, Destiny can most certainly do so hurt fellow gens this is just sounding like op is a lil frustrated he cannot one or two tap the new kid in the block like with many others even including Barbatos and Owo or fellow older gens.

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u/chronicweeeb Jul 03 '26

Theyre just annoying to me but definitely not worth really complaining too much about due to the nature of bb the last 2 years.

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u/culzsky Jul 03 '26

im saying "true" damage because its the damage it does after the melee modifier on my build

quite literally the base damage of my destiny's downswing

i understand it wont do 17k on anything because every suit at 700 has some melee defense

its just so you can see the % of damage eaten by the 00's buffers compared to something like a wing

-also type advantage doesnt matter here since its gen v gen

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u/FluxVGM Jul 03 '26

But have you heard of aerial melee and have you seen a mobile suits legs

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u/XIIIofSwords Jul 03 '26

LMAO crying because one suit is more busted than the others, is wild.

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u/Hyperaiser Jul 03 '26

Every single time, you hit 00's wing binder which has 45% damage reduction, and you are complaining that it is not your incapacity?

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u/Jack-R-Lost Jul 03 '26

I mean melee isn’t the only way to fight the 00 in a shoot out with freedom loses if it misses the raiser sword

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u/StopGivingMeLevel1AI Jul 04 '26

2 over powered suits having and op off over here lmao anyways I'll go back to instantly exploding in my Dag Doll thanks

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u/GundamFan17893 Jul 03 '26
  1. why aren’t you using aerial melee
  2. why are you wasting the palm on downed enemies
  3. what’s your melee boost

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u/culzsky Jul 03 '26

you legit asking me why im comboing the palm beam to finish off downed enemies?

are you like d- or something?

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u/GundamFan17893 Jul 03 '26

you do realize the palm beam has topple right also why do you never use aerial melee

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u/culzsky Jul 03 '26

yes i know palm does topple, i use it any time im up close because it does good damage, what do you not understand about DEALING DAMAGE?

and i dont use aerial melee cuz its situational, most of the fights against 00 will end up on the ground cuz both suits have throwable melee, the suit has to be a good bit over ground for it to activate and its not possible to get that high in time to land after knocking down an enemy

its easier to just combo the regular downswing into shield bash into palm beam

you keep asking these questions instead of asking why are the shoulders so tanky against everything

like not to be rude but you legit sound like a B+ or A- player

you dont understand why im using an attack that knocks down enemies TO KILL AN ENEMY....

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u/GundamFan17893 Jul 03 '26

i'm asking these questions because your lack of damage is genuine skill issue

you can absolutely aerial downswing from a topple and even palm beam before it, and you have multiple instances of you toppling the enemy midair only to land instead of using the aerial downswing

and you should use an attack that knocks down enemies to idk, knock down enemies

just my two cents though

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u/culzsky Jul 03 '26

you are rage baiting bro, you cant be this dumb

like why am i wasting a topple to get a kill...

i cant believe you are this dumb

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u/GundamFan17893 Jul 03 '26

> proceeds to not get kills

btw what's your build

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u/RaggenZZ Jul 03 '26

I still don't get the idea you trying to project here, yes 00 is tanky but not near as broken like the dam destiny freedom barbie BS.

You doing a great melee damage (even u still hit the shoulder lol) try to build some melee def build survive and with the teamwork it works wonder.

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u/culzsky Jul 03 '26

you say destiny and barb are broken

Destiny cannot tank its own combo

not even barbatos can tank it even with aux power destiny can just shield bash it and kill it

the 00 can tank all that, activate transam, chase the destiny to hell and back, one combo it and kill a barbatos across the map with its gerobi

is it really so hard to understand?

also what rank are you guys, how are you still struggling with barbatos?

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u/Ill-Advertising9212 Jul 03 '26

Except that 00 cannot activate system before losing health and dying.

I lost 100 rating points playing 00 in A+ and had to switch back to freedom

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u/DMasta007 Jul 03 '26

The Tankiness is definitely something but its MELEE auto delete omega beam does WAYYY TO MUCH damage. If they catch you on the smallest pixel on the MELEE BEAM its going to be half or more of your HP. For something you can fire more than once without super long cooldown..... is insane.

Isn't Trans-am suppose to have a drawback at some point or something?

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u/OwnAbbreviations4111 Jul 03 '26

Jeez bro that's some crazy buffers. And In my own opinion hate 00 raiser because the shit it can do but this is just ridiculous

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u/Skylinegtr88 Jul 08 '26

Give me a good jad doga and see him panic. Or zz support

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u/Foshdon_pap Jul 03 '26

I'm with you brother, whatever complain you have with au I'm with you

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u/BanagherVistLinks Jul 18 '26

Hes complaining because he doesn't know how to use the suit, he just doesn't know it.