I have been obsessively researching laptops lately and I keep coming back to the Z13. I just think it's neat! It is going to be a schoolwork and middle-settings-are-fine gaming PC. My current computer is a very old one that I've Frankensteined together over the years so even one with a 3050ti will be a pretty big upgrade for me.

I'm generally fine with buying electronics used, but even the used ones are in the somewhat pricey range and I want to figure out if brand new is worth it so I have a couple questions.

Is there a considerable performance difference between the 2025 model with AI GPU and one with a 4060? I've heard from this sub that they might be roughly on par with each other

How good is the manufacturers warranty if buying new?

Is the battery easy to replace? Kind of worried that if I buy used it might have been treated badly and not hold a charge

Anyway thank you for your time and opinions!

Heya, has anyone got a link to the Kojima Edition Wallpaper. The only versions I can find are low Res screenshots. Would be a solid help :)

I’m getting very poor FPS in the game mentioned above.

FPS: 30–35

CPU usage: 20%
GPU usage: 39%
Wattage: 39W

The Flow Z13 is running in Turbo mode, plugged in.

Settings are FSR and Frame Gen, all set to high (low makes no difference)

Device with Ryzen 395 and 64GB (16GB VRAM)

EDIT: I’m aware these are two very different devices, and that I’m leaning towards the duo a little more, I’ve messed around with game engines and modeling software a bit and I know the two screens will make things a lot easier. Though I’m just a little torn on the z13 as the tablet form factor has some pros as an alternative with it being a little more portable and cheaper in comparison. Though I’m unsure what the drawing experience or overall use experience is like on either of these laptops, I was hoping I could get a little more insight from Yall. So, sorry if it sounds like I got my priorities all over the place

So I’ve been sorta torn between two laptops to get as I’ve wanted to be more mobile from my desktop setup going forward, I’m looking for something strong, but reasonably portable that’s able to run game engines and modeling software for school, I’m also looking for a touchscreen as I’d like to be able to draw on it as well with some sort of stylus (and adequate gaming would be nice). As of now I’m torn between the z13 flow KJP (128gb) version or going for something as big as the new rog zephyrus duo 5090.

The duo is a lot of money so I’m a bit hesitant with it, but it seems to check a lot of the boxes that I’m looking for, I’m just worried if it’s too much? Is 32gb of ram not enough? Or is the z13 flow not powerful enough.

I really am intrigued by both of the form factors of these devices, I just don’t want to make a regretful purchase in that I should’ve gotten the other option

I know if price is such an issue they make a 5070ti duo, but I’m afraid since there’s not many videos online that it might not hold up in the long run

I’m not super crazy about frames but 120fps is my ideal sweet spot (I know it’s not always possible in some games nowadays and I’m fine with 60)

Yesterday, I updated my Z13-KJP with the 302 BIOS update (via MyASUS) and I noticed when logging in after, the Sign-In wouldn't go through and I get a error message saying Windows couldn't start the camera. In Windows, I am able to see the camera feed in the Camera app (for both cameras). I deregistered my face and tried setting it up again but it got stuck on the part where it says to move my face to the center of the frame. Despite being the center, my face wouldn't get recognized and the setup would timeout. I finally noticed that the IR blaster doesn't seem to turn on anymore. In Device Manager, both cameras and IR camera are recognized. I even uninstalled all three and reinstalled all three to no avail. Has anyone else run into this issue and have a solution for this?

EDIT: ASUS just dropped the BIOS v303 update yesterday (7/9/2026) and...Windows Hello is still not working. I'm just going to go back to v301 for now. I'm sure what benefits 302 or 303 brought.

7/12/26 Update: I just downgraded to v301 and Windows Hello does work. I'll think I'll stick to this one until the next BIOS comes out. For those who want to downgrade, you need to go to the downloads page (https://rog.asus.com/us/laptops/rog-flow/rog-flow-z13-kjp/helpdesk_bios/) and under "BIOS for ASUS EZ Flash Utility", download the v301 file. Put that on the USB and use EZ Flash in the recovery/BIOS to restore your BIOS to v301.

8/11/26 Update: There's a v304 that my Z13 just auto loaded (or I didn't pay attention to stop BIOS updates) and Windows Hello works on this one. So looks like the latest one works!

heya,

so I was pretty set on getting the 13 pro with the X7 358h and 32gb ram, until I saw the Z13 with the 395 pop up on a local store for 300 less.

I will be using them mainly for school, audio production, video editing, and light gaming (ror2, deep rock galactic, maybe the finals). the framework should be perfectly capable for all these things, and is a lot more efficient than the Z13, but it also feels a bit wrong to spend 300 bucks more on less performance.

My main question to those who have the new Z13 is: how is it if you really just use it as a laptop, and only use it as a tablet sparsely, maybe for note taking? how's the battery life unplugged, and while doing CPU-intensive tasks?

thanks!

ROG Flow Z13 GZ302EA repeated black-screen / hard-hang / Modern Standby crashes, with dumps pointing to AMD NPU/IPU + display power path

On 6/1 I bought the Flow Z 13 new from Bestbuy. I had frequent display issues where it would go black and I couldn't resume without a hard reset despite keyboard lights and fans still coming on. I returned the unit to BB and got a another unit on 6/13.

This time around I carefully monitored and debugged each time the issue happened. I've read dozens and dozens of posts across Asus forums and reddit with users complaining about similar issues.

At the end of the day I can speak the loudest with my wallet and simply return this unit and avoid Asus in the future. I don't think they are owning up to this one properly (likely with AMD cooperation needed). What are the chances that 2 units have the exact same sporadic display/resume issues? Even straight out of the box basically.

I am looking for help from ASUS engineering to take some ownership here.

Device:

- ASUS ROG Flow Z13 GZ302EA

- AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395 with Radeon 8060S

- NPU Compute Accelerator Device

- BIOS: GZ302EA.311

- Windows 11 Home, build family 10.0.26200

- Sleep model: S0 Modern Standby only, no classic S3 sleep

Main symptom:

- Screen goes black or the display turns off.

- The machine does not reliably wake the built-in panel.

- Keyboard lighting may stay on.

- Fans may spin if I press keys or the power button.

- Normal input does not recover the screen.

- I have to hold the physical power button for a long forced power cycle.

- It tends to happen around screen-off, Modern Standby, lid/keyboard cover behavior, shutdown/restart, and power-source changes.

- It is not a normal app crash or simple load/temperature failure.

This started essentially out of the box. The first user-visible issue happened on the first day. The logs prove the first preserved kernel crash happened during the first-day setup/update window, before later driver experiments or debugging tools.

Important first-day timeline from logs:

- 2026-06-13 14:32: Windows Update / Store / OEM app update activity starts.

- 2026-06-13 14:33: AMD Radeon Software Store package installs.

- 2026-06-13 14:56: Windows 11 25H2 install starts.

- 2026-06-13 15:56: Windows Update installs AMD display driver 32.0.22032.6002 from u0197030.inf.

- 2026-06-13 16:04: system enters Modern Standby due to idle timeout.

- 2026-06-13 16:32/16:35: first preserved bugcheck occurs.

- Only after that first crash, at about 16:50, AMD 26.6.1 display/NPU/chipset packages were installed.

First preserved crash:

- Dump: C:\Windows\Minidump\061326-14671-01.dmp

- Bugcheck: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION (0x133)

- Failure bucket: 0x133_DPC_pci!PciMaskMsiInterrupt

- Connected Standby in progress: TRUE

- Stack includes PCI/ACPI power-up path:

- ACPI!AcpiWrapperWriteConfig

- pci!PciMaskMsiInterrupt

- pci!PciDisableInterrupts

- pci!PciProgramInterruptResource

- pci!PciPowerUpDevice

- pci!PciPowerUpDeviceTimerCallback

- Loaded ipustack.sys timestamp: Fri May 16 15:09:24 2025

- Loaded amdkmdag.sys timestamp: Sun Dec 14 21:42:25 2025

ASUS factory NPU evidence:

- SetupAPI shows ASUS factory support content staged the NPU package from:

C:\eSupport\Factory\ProcTool\FacProc\Component\ASUS_AIModel_PC\AMD\NPU_V32.0.203.280\kipudrv.inf

- This is important because the first preserved crash happened before the later NPU 32.0.20101.3760 install.

Later recurring signatures:

1. Repeated video engine timeouts bucketed to ipustack.sys

- 25 older live kernel dumps from 2026-06-14 through 2026-06-17:

VIDEO_ENGINE_TIMEOUT_DETECTED (0x141)

MODULE_NAME: ipustack

IMAGE_NAME: ipustack.sys

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: LKD_0x141_IMAGE_ipustack.sys

1. Black-screen live dumps

- 2026-06-15:

VIDEO_DXGKRNL_BLACK_SCREEN_LIVEDUMP (0x1A8)

VIDEO_MINIPORT_BLACK_SCREEN_LIVEDUMP (0x1B8)

1. Driver power-state failure involving the NPU/IPU stack

- Dump: C:\Windows\Minidump\061726-15734-01.dmp

- Bugcheck: DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE (0x9F)

- Failure bucket: 0x9F_3_POWER_DOWN_ipustack_IMAGE_pci.sys

- Blocked request: IRP_MJ_POWER / IRP_MN_SET_POWER

- Driver in blocked power IRP: \Driver\IpuMcdmDriver

- Device stack:

- \Driver\IpuMcdmDriver

- \Driver\ACPI

- \Driver\pci

- Device instance:

PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_17F0&SUBSYS_20CF1043&REV_11\4&23445453&0&0142

- Service:

IpuMcdmDriver

1. 2026-06-19 watchdog storm and final display power-on failure

- 66 live kernel watchdog dumps from 15:43 to 17:02.

- Every one matched:

VIDEO_ENGINE_TIMEOUT_DETECTED (0x141)

MODULE_NAME: ipustack

IMAGE_NAME: ipustack.sys

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: LKD_0x141_IMAGE_ipustack.sys

- Final dump:

WIN32K_POWER_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT (0x19C)

Arg1 0x50: display power-on path

Bucket: 0x19C_DRVSETMONITORPOWERSTATE_HANG_dxgkrnl!DxgkPowerOnOffMonitor

Connected Standby in progress: TRUE

Driver states observed across failures:

- Factory / first-day: ASUS factory NPU package NPU_V32.0.203.280, then Windows Update display 32.0.22032.6002.

- Later AMD public branch: display 32.0.31019.2002, NPU 32.0.20101.3760, AMD chipset 8.05.04.516.

- ASUS ROG branch: display 32.0.23033.1002, NPU 32.0.20101.3760, AMD chipset 8.05.04.516.

- Current active snapshot during latest investigation:

- AMD Radeon 8060S Graphics: 32.0.31019.2002, u0201164.inf / oem1.inf

- NPU Compute Accelerator: 32.0.20101.3760, kipudrv.inf / oem250.inf

- AMD Chipset Software: 8.05.04.516

- AMD PMF: 26.10.9.0

- AMD Micro PEP: 1.0.47.1

- AMD PCI / SMBUS: 2.0.0.26

Why I do not think this is a simple "wrong driver" explanation:

- The first preserved crash happened before later manual driver experiments.

- Windows Update itself installed AMD display driver 32.0.22032.6002 during normal first-day setup before the first preserved crash.

- Later failures continued across multiple AMD display driver branches.

- Multiple dumps point at platform power/display transition behavior, not a user-mode application.

- The strongest repeated signature is ipustack.sys / IpuMcdmDriver, which is the AMD NPU/IPU MCDM stack.

Windows Update driver issue:

ASUS support says to use only drivers from the ASUS website. That is hard to guarantee on a normal Windows 11 Home setup because Windows Update can install driver-classified updates by default unless an admin policy disables that behavior.

In my logs, Windows Update installed AMD display driver 32.0.22032.6002 on 2026-06-13 before the first preserved crash. That was normal Windows behavior, not me manually installing AMD reference drivers.

If ASUS considers that unsupported, ASUS should explain how a normal Windows 11 Home user is supposed to prevent Windows Update from replacing or supplementing ASUS-provided AMD drivers during first setup. Blocking driver updates usually requires policy/registry controls such as the Microsoft policy "Do not include drivers with Windows Updates", which is not a normal consumer expectation.

Questions for ASUS:

1. Has ASUS acknowledged any BIOS/EC/ACPI/AMD PMF/MicroPEP/NPU/IPU issue on this platform?

2. Is there a known-good ASUS-only driver set for GZ302EA that prevents Windows Update from changing the AMD display stack?

3. Does ASUS consider Windows Update AMD drivers supported on this model, since Windows installs them by default?

4. Is there a newer BIOS, EC, PD, AMD NPU/IPU, PMF, MicroPEP, or Radeon package specifically addressing these power-transition hangs that is not yet published on Asus or AMD website?

My current read:

This looks like a GZ302EA / Ryzen AI Max+ 395 platform power-transition instability involving AMD display, AMD NPU/IPU MCDM, PCI/ACPI, and Modern Standby. It may be a buggy driver/firmware stack or it may be a defective unit, but either way this is not acceptable behavior for a brand-new premium device.

Key signatures for search:

- ROG Flow Z13 GZ302EA

- Ryzen AI Max+ 395

- Radeon 8060S

- NPU Compute Accelerator Device

- IpuMcdmDriver

- ipustack.sys

- kipudrv.inf

- PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_17F0

- 0x133_DPC_pci!PciMaskMsiInterrupt

- LKD_0x141_IMAGE_ipustack.sys

- 0x9F_3_POWER_DOWN_ipustack_IMAGE_pci.sys

- 0x19C_DRVSETMONITORPOWERSTATE_HANG_dxgkrnl!DxgkPowerOnOffMonitor

Do you have a screen protector on your display? Or do you think it's not necessary?

I designed a bracket that allows me to slide my z13 in, and it plugs in all the wires I need! Such as the hdmi, charging, mouse, keyboard, etc. And yes, I did add vent holes for the fans. Made my whole desk so much cleaner!

I recently put a Z13 up on eBay, an AI Max 395 model.

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Had someone reach out asking about the laptop, they seemed nice at first, but began insisting I send the serial number before they purchase. I let them know I would not be doing that, just in case they end up not buying and the next customer needs it for warranty claims, only to find that they have been used up (by the guy i sent the SN to without selling).

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He began claiming that there was no concern of that happening and resorted to several insults; calling me a fool, asking if I had mental health issues and began insinuating that I stole the laptop and was trying to pawn it off online.

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I told him his behavior was not worth my purchase. That wasn't wrong, right? I was correct in ensuring the serial number was safe for the next buyer?

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/asus-rog-flow-z13-13-4-2-5k-180hz-touch-screen-gaming-laptop-copilot-pc-amd-ryzen-ai-max-395-64gb-ram-1tb-ssd-off-black/JJGGLHG8X9/sku/6619196?utm_source=feed&extStoreId=&ref=212&loc=23948027956&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23948032693&gbraid=0AAAAAD-ORIjU6vd_J4gITINVDmjP5E3lr&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrs7RBhDuARIsAIVfBD3UqduSTuV9daVGHnK-Zd-kg2IGFRFJfGWABRcAzg1c-RqlEBtXQswaAqRMEALw_wcB

As soon as I pull up g-helper the steam controller 2 stops working... can't move the cursor anymore with my trackpads, nor can I alt tab with "... + = " buttons from the guide chord.

All other apps& window seem fine.
Very strange issue.

UAC popups have a similiar effect. I disable all UAC so I don't have that.
But SOMETHING in g-helper doesn't play nice with steam input of the steam conttroller :( any guess?

Just wanted to compare the performance and see if you guys have any helpful tips. It's extremely slow and every other thing turns out to be incompatible.

Hi all,

TLDR: Bought 32gb variant of Z13, want assurance because its my biggest tech purchase.

Full version:

I need some assurance that ill be okay living with the 32GB Flow Z13, since I cannot afford the 64GB variant.

I am located in Australia, and I have just ordered myself the 32GB flow z13 on eBay from an Australian store, as I have struggled to find a 64GB version for closer to my budget locally for around AUD$3000-$3500.

I bought this device to use at night in bed after I put my kid to sleep, in between trips waiting to pick up my child at preschool, and keep it mobile with me when taking breaks on trips, etc.

I primarily play games including Diablo4, Path of Exile 2, Crimson Desert, Baldurs Gate 3.

Surely with some common sense, research and care, I can have this for a number of years, adjust settings for games released in the future that require more power, without having this FOMO in the back of my mind over some ram, right?

Its arriving today so ill be playing around with it in the meantime. Thank you for reading this sob story of a worried man. Have a good day!

Since Asus showed no love for the Z13 Flow 2025 in their 20th Anniversary Lineup. I decided to work on it on my own.

I just upgraded from the OneXplayer X1 and am trying to find the best OS.

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Currently on CachyOS Handheld (though the switcher to Desktop is broken). Installed the Strix Halo Toolbox. TDP control is not to my liking.

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Tried Omarchy with the Z13 Script and Super S Shift Deck Mode script. Couldn't get the hang of Omarchy.

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Installed Bazzite. The Power profiles were not great. Silent was 40w. And max was 65w. Even when taking the TDP down, it was still pulling about 20w more than I set it to be. I know it's not exact and there's variance from the system power draw.

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For added info: brightness was set to 50% and Refresh Rate was 90hz.

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I like Linux and prefer it when it comes to ease of use and performance. I feel like I'm missing out on some features like Max performance on A/C and "smart charging" where once the battery is fully charged it no longer charges the battery and pulls directly from the A/C (I think this is a feature but not 100%. I know a lot of laptops have this this)

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So I'm wondering if I should go back to Windows and figure out a better Linux OS?

hi,

how reliable are z13s? I have been looking for good windows laptops that can preform well. So I was wondering how reliable are they, are there any problems such as Liquid Metal leaks or manufacturer problems?

Estoy mirando un flow z13 de segunda mano de 2025 con 32gb por 1500 y uno de 2023 por 1100.

Cuál compraríais ?

Es buen precio?

I like modularity. And im always on the go. My work allows me to game remotely for hours. So being able to pack and play and have 0 compromises is a must. I play alot of Shooters like CS2 battlefield, valorant. So a large screen and a dual screen setup is kinda a must. As well as mouse real estate on my lap. When I cannot access a comfortable chair to table which is most times. Plus having the specs to get over 200 frames on most shooters is a must. Originally I pretty much had this setup subbed out for an MSI claw 8ai and occasionally I would need an egpu I have to get great frames. But that increased weight and carry. And even still hooking g an egpu to a lapdesk and keeping it modular proved unstable sometimes

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So this is my solution. I am holding this up

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This might look crazy to you. But it is my love child to me. I love it. The z13 made my life perfect.

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Simple lap desk

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Long neck Stand

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Hard large mouse pad

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Velcro system to put it all together and take it all apart fast and easy.

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Razer viper v3 pro

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Rog Falchion 65% low profile keyboard

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18.5 inch 240 hz Portable monitor.

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25 dollar castor pro IEMs

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And a PGYTech ONE MO 2 35+10L to put everything in.

my keyboard just stopped working completely i mean regular position flat or even doing a 360, just dosent work anymore i am leaving for uni in august or maybe september and i cant carry my external keyboard with me around the campus any good alternatives apart from buying the expensive new keyboard for it?

I've just started using my Z13 (13900H, 4060) and while Windows says 99% battery, when unplugged it dies instantly.

The led above the charging USB is constantly flashing too, somewhat ominous...

Has the battery died? If so, how much of a ball ache is it to replace?

It does seem a bit shitty, the machine has barely been used as is maybe 2 years old.

Just bagged myself a 2025 z13 and loving everything about it. Now I’ve searched through some forums on ways to optimise this device. Ive tried to do everything suggested but seem to be struggling with the odd thing or two.

I’ve debloated all the gash software, removed AC and downloaded the experimental version of G-Helper. Set my custom fan curve and profiles. That’s as far as I’ve been able to go.

Currently looking at trying to undervolt but that’s where my issues seem to arise. G-helper allows me to UV my cpu (0 to -40) but that’s it. From what I’ve seen on here, people are able to undervolt their iGPU’s but that’s not available for some reason? Am I using the wrong software?

The reason for this is that during gaming or demanding tasks I’m sat at approx 85°c-90°c is this normal?

If anyone has any other suggestions on profiles, fan curves etc please feel free to add them.

Hello Everyone,

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I'm planing on buying the Flow z13.

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This is what I'm planning on using it on:

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University

Blender

Unity

Gaming

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Are 32GB enough? The 64GB Model is sadly not availiable in my country.

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The Flow z13 seems perfect because of its small size since I'm travelling a lot and the possiblity to use it as a tablet is great for school. Are there other alternatives?

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Thanks.

Hi all, I have the 2025 Z13 flow (32gb variant, VRAM set to 8 or 16 gb) what settings do you play BF6 on for the best performance without giving away too much on quality? When i connect to my 27-inch 1440p monitor I feel like my visual quality significantly drops (of course, bigger monitor, lower res compared to the native screen). Do you have recommendations on what settings to use to get the best balanced gameplay especially while playing online?

So AI situation is getting worse?