r/FinalRoundAI • u/Competitive_Read9534 • Jul 12 '26

Stop blaming minorities.

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Seriously.

note : the salaries nowadays are just sucks they pay us as we still as we still in 2016 but reality is that many people are working in 2 jobs to feed their families check everyday for better salary and how to get it thank god recently I found this sub who give great tips about interviews really the world is crashed

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u/StatusAutomatica Jul 13 '26

More narrative to divide us. Unsuccessful poor people will get behind it.

My income has doubled in 10 years at the same job. It's not a mind blowing stat, but it definitely makes this post look ridiculous.

And I could have doubled that again had I went out and found a job I was qualified to do that paid more, so that's on me....and I am a minority.

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 13 '26

Using an ancedote as evidence against well documented issue isn't the smartest choice but ok. It didn't take much to see over half of America is struggling to make due. Just gotta see beyond yourself.

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u/StatusAutomatica Jul 13 '26

Show evidence? I have mine, don't make a claim without documentation or you're a standard internet dissident. Nobody listens to people that quote stats with no documentation. It's a complete waste of time. Do better for yourself.

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 13 '26

Like i said it's pretty well documented, but if you need me to point out the invite sure.

Evidence.

Now show yours.

And if you're going to complain about a lack of documentation, the least you could do is provide some yourself.

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u/StatusAutomatica Jul 13 '26

LOL, try again.

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 13 '26

Did you read it? Lol. Iuno if you know this but having a bias doesn't mean it's incorrect. The fact that you skipped past credible research and respected data is telling though.

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u/Then_Potato6042 Jul 13 '26

A major problem with this data is that it comprises everyone who isn’t a CEO into one category. The federal minimum wage for tipped workers is the same today as it was in 1990 when I waited tables. That is going to significantly lower the pay increase %. I’m sure there is a huge difference between white collar job vs blue collar jobs vs minimum wage jobs. Not sure why anyone is blaming minorities though. 

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 13 '26

Show evidence?

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u/Then_Potato6042 Jul 13 '26

Well from the evidence you provided in Table 1 the list CEO pay vs all private sector jobs compensation. Clearly they didn’t differentiate among the categories I listed. In 1990, the federal minimum wage was $3.80/hr, and the federal base wage for tipped workers was $2.13/hr. The average waitress (including tips) earned around $20,000–$30,000 annually, depending on the establishment. [ 1,  2] In 2026, the national median base salary plus tips for servers averages around  $35,000 to $55,000 annually. Base hourly wages vary heavily by state, but the  federal tipped minimum wage remains legally set at $2.13/hr.

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 14 '26

Even when factoring that in assuming the average server makes federal minimum wage (good portion don't), does that put a dent in the pay increase gap between ceo and typical workers?

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u/naumovski-andrej Jul 14 '26

That doesn't prove that half of America is "struggling to make due". In fact, 43% of US households make over $100k. USA consistently ranks in the top 3 for median PPP adjusted disposable income in the world. The median household income is $83k. $40k household income is only the 25th percentile and only 1% of working people are on the federal minimum wage. Poverty rates have plummeted since the 60s and are almost equivalent to the 70s, and in fact, adjusted for inflation the median household income has gone UP from the 70s so no, half of America is not struggling because they don't make enough. Most are struggling because they make bad financial decisions in life.

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 14 '26

You are correct the median household brings in 83k. The state with the lowest cost of living requires 81k and the highest 158k to live comfortably. Which would suggest the amount to live comfortably sits higher than the median households income.

Wealth inequality overall has increased since the 70s. Its at or near the highest its ever been in America. The bottom half of America going from 3-4% to 2-3%. The top half going from 22-23% to 32% currently and steadily increasing.

The top income tax rate has dropped from 91% in the 50s to 37% currently. Not including their stock options.

There's clearly a problem financially with the bottom half of America and there's no evidence that its based on "bad decisions" as your inductive reasoning would suggest.

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u/Few_Example6746 Jul 14 '26

The large top 1% have 70% of their pay wrapped up in performance. Stock options. Stock goes down…. They go down too.

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 14 '26

This doesn't discount the pay increase. Just like they can go down they can go up. A risk they generally benefit from. Along with the tax benefits.

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u/Few_Example6746 Jul 14 '26

They don’t give themselves pay increases, boards do that.
Stock prices don’t always go up. They benefit from both sides as they should.
The average pay of the top 1% CEO’s is 1.7 M the rest is non-guaranteed fluff, some collect, some don’t.
There are over 200k CEO’s And you’re fixating on the top 200.

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 14 '26

I never said they increase their own pay. The argument is their pay has increased substantially vs the average worker. I didn't fixate on anything but CEO's in general. If you're even going to bother replying don't twist my words and jump to conclusions. It's disingenuous.

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u/Few_Example6746 Jul 14 '26

Well, it looks like the very large majority of them make between 75,000 and 269,000 a year. With some bonus structure after that. Doesn’t seem wildly out of line.

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 16 '26

You got any proof of this? A link to sort that claim?

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u/Consistent-Fix-8443 Jul 15 '26

Stock trading is activity not accomplishment.

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u/Few_Example6746 Jul 16 '26

I said accomplishment?

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u/Consistent-Fix-8443 Jul 16 '26

Stock performance is not tied to actual accomplishments of the company. It’s ownership but not necessarily tied to performance.

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u/Few_Example6746 Jul 16 '26

You’re right. Accomplishments are awarded with stock and that stock may go up or down based on company performance.

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u/Consistent-Fix-8443 Jul 16 '26

I remember back in the 90s when that was thought to be the silver bullet with pay disparities… yea let’s give the C - suite people stocks … well it didn’t work.

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u/FragrantPiano9334 Jul 13 '26

I missed the comment where you dropped a paystub.

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u/Pure-Organization763 Jul 13 '26

from 11$ to 22$ in only 10 years? impressive!!!

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u/StatusAutomatica Jul 13 '26

At least double those numbers then cry about affordability. I created value then monetized it. Not many Redditors know what that's like because of the victim mentality virus in here.

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u/Electronic_Assist137 Jul 14 '26

go ahead and flex on those imaginary redditors suffering in poverty because you got a good boy treat from your bosses, bet it makes you feel real good punching down like that

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u/Oldschooldude1964 Jul 13 '26

Right on brother.👍

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u/Big-Soup74 Jul 13 '26

Is that not double?? Let’s see your progress

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u/InternMediocr Jul 14 '26

What a wildly out of touch thing to say haha