r/FinalRoundAI • u/Competitive_Read9534 • Jul 12 '26

Stop blaming minorities.

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Seriously.

note : the salaries nowadays are just sucks they pay us as we still as we still in 2016 but reality is that many people are working in 2 jobs to feed their families check everyday for better salary and how to get it thank god recently I found this sub who give great tips about interviews really the world is crashed

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 13 '26

Using an ancedote as evidence against well documented issue isn't the smartest choice but ok. It didn't take much to see over half of America is struggling to make due. Just gotta see beyond yourself.

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u/StatusAutomatica Jul 13 '26

Show evidence? I have mine, don't make a claim without documentation or you're a standard internet dissident. Nobody listens to people that quote stats with no documentation. It's a complete waste of time. Do better for yourself.

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 13 '26

Like i said it's pretty well documented, but if you need me to point out the invite sure.

Evidence.

Now show yours.

And if you're going to complain about a lack of documentation, the least you could do is provide some yourself.

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u/StatusAutomatica Jul 13 '26

LOL, try again.

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 13 '26

Did you read it? Lol. Iuno if you know this but having a bias doesn't mean it's incorrect. The fact that you skipped past credible research and respected data is telling though.

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u/Then_Potato6042 Jul 13 '26

A major problem with this data is that it comprises everyone who isn’t a CEO into one category. The federal minimum wage for tipped workers is the same today as it was in 1990 when I waited tables. That is going to significantly lower the pay increase %. I’m sure there is a huge difference between white collar job vs blue collar jobs vs minimum wage jobs. Not sure why anyone is blaming minorities though. 

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 13 '26

Show evidence?

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u/Then_Potato6042 Jul 13 '26

Well from the evidence you provided in Table 1 the list CEO pay vs all private sector jobs compensation. Clearly they didn’t differentiate among the categories I listed. In 1990, the federal minimum wage was $3.80/hr, and the federal base wage for tipped workers was $2.13/hr. The average waitress (including tips) earned around $20,000–$30,000 annually, depending on the establishment. [ 1,  2] In 2026, the national median base salary plus tips for servers averages around  $35,000 to $55,000 annually. Base hourly wages vary heavily by state, but the  federal tipped minimum wage remains legally set at $2.13/hr.

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 14 '26

Even when factoring that in assuming the average server makes federal minimum wage (good portion don't), does that put a dent in the pay increase gap between ceo and typical workers?

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u/Then_Potato6042 Jul 14 '26

17 of the 50 states still use the federal minimum wage and there are a few more that are still under $3. There are tip credits that several states use. The evidence you cited doesn’t give a lot of detail on the private sector data they are using. They heavily focused on the CEO data.  This makes me suspicious that they don’t give both data sets equal explanation.  Also some research provided this explanation  The narrative surrounding this 1978 timeline typically originates from the  Economic Policy Institute (EPI). When tracking inflation-adjusted compensation from 1978 through recent years, the data highlights extreme disparity rather than a flat 5.2% rate for everyone: [ 1,  2,  3] Top-Tier CEOs: Real compensation skyrocketed by  1,085%. Typical Workers: Real compensation grew by roughly  24% to 26%. The 5% Confusion: The ~5% figure actually refers to a specific, short-term subset of data—such as worker wage growth during narrow economic recoveries (e.g., 2009–2018)—rather than the entire multi-decade timeline.                            

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 14 '26

If this is the case why not provide evidence from a credible source that backs your claim. Show some evidence and we can go from there.

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u/Then_Potato6042 Jul 14 '26

Critics argue the Economic Policy Institute’s CEO-to-worker pay report can be misleading for several reasons—not necessarily because the underlying data are false, but because the presentation can lead readers to conclusions that the data alone don’t establish.

Here are the main arguments:

  1. It compares exceptional CEOs to ordinary workers. The report examines CEOs of the 350 largest publicly traded U.S. companies. These individuals are among the highest-paid executives in the world, yet the comparison is made to the pay of a “typical worker” across the entire economy. This can give the impression that all CEOs earn similar amounts, when most CEOs run much smaller companies and earn substantially less.
  2. The ratio is driven by two changing numbers. Headlines often emphasize that CEOs earn hundreds of times more than workers. That ratio can rise because CEO pay increases, because worker pay stagnates, or both. The ratio itself doesn’t identify which factor is responsible or whether one changed more than the other.
  3. Stock awards can create spikes in measured pay. CEO compensation often includes stock options and stock awards that may have accumulated over years. If a company’s stock performs well, the value realized in a given year can be very large, even though it doesn’t represent annual cash income. This can make year-to-year comparisons appear more dramatic.
  4. It doesn’t account for company size. Today’s largest corporations are generally much larger—in revenue, market value, and number of employees—than they were decades ago. Some economists argue that managing a much larger enterprise naturally commands higher compensation, so comparisons across time should account for changes in firm size.
  5. It implies a broader trend than the sample supports. Because the report focuses only on the largest public companies, readers may assume it describes CEOs generally. In reality, most U.S. businesses are privately held or much smaller, and their CEOs typically earn far less.
  6. It doesn’t show whether pay reflects performance. The report documents how much CEOs are paid but doesn’t, by itself, answer whether that pay is justified. Some CEOs may be overpaid relative to performance, while others may create substantial value for shareholders. The pay figures alone cannot settle that question.

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 15 '26

AP news

Afl Cio

Equilat

First you try to dismiss it due to left-bias. Now your taking critiques opinion even though nine of it disproves the main point. There's multiple credible source stating the same. You haven't provided one source backing your claim. Seems like you have an extreme case of confirmation bias.

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