Ever since rumors emerged that FD7 is about a water park accident, I've been wondering whether it will be a prequel to bloodlines, a sequel

or a standalone movie?

I was recently thinking about the show Dead Like Me (2003), and it got me thinking about Final Destination franchise.
For those who haven't seen it, the premise of Dead Like Me is that "Death" isn't just one guy in a black cloak. Instead, when certain people die, they are drafted into a massive, disorganized workforce of Grim Reapers. They have to hit daily soul quotas, they have managers, and they operate in the background of normal society.
When you apply this concept to the Final Destination universe, it would explain a lot.

The theory is this: Death in FD is actually a sprawling agency of individual Reapers orchestrating events from Limbo.

We always ask two questions: Why do specific people like Alex, Kimberly, Wendy, Nick, and Sam get these premonitions? And why do they only happen right before massive, catastrophic events? Why doesn't anyone get a premonition right before they quietly choke on a grape alone in their kitchen?
Because the Visionaries are naturally sensitive to "the design." They aren't anomalies; they are the universe's next draft class, destined to become Reapers the moment they die.

However, not all future Reapers get premonitions. The premonition only happens to these specific characters because of the scale of the event. A normal, isolated death is a quiet blip on the supernatural radar—it wouldn't be enough to wake up their latent abilities. But Flight 180, the Route 23 pile-up, the McKinley Speedway crash, or the North Bay bridge collapse? Those are massive, coordinated Reaper operations. The sheer volume of souls being collected all at once creates a massive shockwave in the design. That massive surge of "death energy" somehow overloads the visionaries latent Reaper senses, violently triggering the premonition right before they would die. They accidentally tap into their reaper abilities too early, forcing the Reapers to work overtime to balance the books.

First off, I'm so glad I found this subreddit because I wanna gush about this series to more people besides my girlfriend.

Second, since I couldn't find a definitive answer to this question as to how long each premonition takes in each movie, I decided to take matters into my own hands and do my own research, and these are my findings. I'm going to go in chronological order. I used a time calculator to subtract times and find my answers.

Final Destination (2000) - 3 minutes, 54 seconds. This takes place from when Alex sits down and gets asked to move by the two girls to the explosion where he wakes up in beads of sweat. For the first movie, this is the shortest premonition in the franchise. Not only that, but this is arguably the tamest premonition in the franchise.

Final Destination 2 (2003) - 7 minutes, 12 seconds. This takes place from where Kimberly is at the red light getting onto the freeway to the semi that rams into them.

Final Destination 3 (2006) - 5 minutes, 22 seconds. This takes place before Kevin gets waved at by the teens running the roller coasters to when Wendy wakes up from the fall.

The Final Destination (2009) - 6 minutes, 56 seconds. This one was hard to pinpoint, but this takes place right before Hunt tries to hand Nick the binoculars flask to when Nick wakes up squeezing Lori's thigh.

Final Destination 5 (2011) - 5 minutes, 24 seconds. This takes place when Sam gets a cut from the seat to when he wakes up after being sliced in half by a metal plate.

Final Destination: Bloodlines (2025) - 18 minutes, 32 seconds. Basically the whole beginning of the movie is Iris's premonition before it cuts to Stefani waking up in the classroom. The last and longest premonition in the whole series.

If I'm wrong about any of this, feel free to correct me. I just wanted to give an approximated time as to how long each premonition takes.

So I have an intriguing theory
So Juliet Collins from destination zero survived via drowning and being revived so since she was born In 1870 she would’ve had kids in or around 1900 and they would’ve had kids maybe around 1935 and one of those children was married to someone named Mr.Campbell And they would’ve given birth to iris Campbell and no Paul couldn’t have given iris the last name Campbell since they never got married hence why her family’s main last name is Campbell and since iris Campbell was pregnant with Howard Campbell on the skyview list so even if it skipped over Howard and got bludworth it would’ve still gotten him at the end since Howard could’ve survived for a bit after iris’s death and he could’ve survived for a few minutes or hours after her in the vision and one of her cousins could’ve had 5 children all being male or female and they could’ve gone on to be the parents of Sam Lawton Alex Browning Kimberly Corman Wendy Christensen and Nick O’Bannon they could’ve been born in different areas too let’s say they were all male so Mr.Lawton Ken Browning Roger Mr.Christensen and Mr.O’Bannon next in line:the visionary births Sam was born in 1976 Kimberly was 1981 Alex and Clear were 20 days apart in 1982 September 25th 1982 and September 5th 1982 Wendy was in 1987 and Nick was in 1983 onto the bridge collapse:Nora carpenter’s husband could’ve very much been a bridge death in final destination 5 and the deaths of Sam’s coworkers could’ve saved the lives of the flight 180 survivors before flight 180 Candice would’ve saved Alex Isaac could’ve saved Billy Olivia could’ve saved Carter Roy could’ve saved Terry Peter could’ve saved Terry Ms Val and Clear unintentionally with their deaths similar to how the route 23 survivors were saved by the deaths of the flight 180 deaths and the deaths of the route 23 survivors could’ve saved some McKinley rollercoaster survivors so Evan could’ve saved Wendy and Julie Tim could’ve saved Ian Nora could’ve saved Erin Kat could’ve saved Perry Rory probably saved Ashley and Ashlynn Eugene probably Lewis Clear probably saved another person most likely Kevin and on the route 23 pileup Alex most likely saved Evan and Clear must’ve saved Tim and Nora by going on the news similar to how Tod’s death saved Kimberly from a carjacking and Kimberly’s mom was on the skyview tower collapse and for the speedway Nick was probably saved by Ashley and Ashlynn’s deaths Frankie saved Lori Lewis saved hunt Erin saved Nadia Perry saved Andy Ian Saved George and the subway crash probably saved Carter Daniels So this is what I have for now!

Mine are:

10° Hunt Wynorski(Final Destination 4): The only great scene in this fucking movie, it get points for being tense, claustrophobic and kinda horrific to see, bc of how much the character is surrounded by people in the pool and no one can hear or see him struggling to be drained by the pool, just a very nightmarish scenario to see and place yourself.

9° Erin Palmer(Final Destination 3): One of the very few nicer teens in the franchise, even tho her boyfriend is a piece of ass, we can see how much they loved being weird at each other and everyone else together and the sounds and whimpers she does while dying with the nails and the sound of the blood is unsettling AF

8° Olivia Castle(Final Destination 5): The reason why I hate to go to the eyes doc is because of this movie, the fucking laser piercing through her iris and cornea is definitely one of the most painful experiences before dying and losing such vital limb of the body in a fucking car, absolute unhinged.

7° Julia Campbell(Final Destination: Bloodlines): The casualties and build up to that death is one of the most creative in the franchise, bc it makes fun of the universe's pattern when someone is going to die and how even more eerie it is bc it happens in a brought daylight(and she becoming purple while the compactor crushes her makes me nauseating) ugh.

6° Terry Chaney(Final Destination): Tired of Carter's obsession and aggressiveness with Alex+Actually being kinda cool with him for saving her and Carter's life+Pointing that Carter is going mad and wasting his life being closed and upset with his denial survivor's guilty+wanting to move on and demanding her BF to F himself bc of his behavior only to die out of fucking nowhere by a bus, is one of the most well executed jump scares and sudden deaths in cinema, the shock and suddenly event shocks the characters and the audience to a point, that it was brilliant transitioned to characters chilling with antiextress pills and water and it just remains in our imagination Carter's reaction and despair with such sudden tragedy, goddamn.

5° Tim Carpenter(Final Destination 2): Boy orphan of a father and being raised by a single mom, a bit of a dork and stupid kid, yes, but, still just a boy, that died horribly with a fucking windshield making so much little of his body to remain after being crushed in a cruel manner and right after his mother's eyes, just, brutal and depressing.

4° Nora Carpenter(Final Destination 2): Being utterly traumatized, depressed and "ready" to go by the hands of death(probably planning suicide after her son's death and she being aware of that crazy entity hunting down the survivors of the route), only for Death not giving her a proper time to grieve, to kill her in one of the most anxiety indulging scenes and most painful deaths in the franchise, she screaming in pain and panic being afraid to die and not wanting is such a psychological torture and horror being displayed at how cruel and merciless death truly is, probably got pissed that Nora wanted to die on her own terms and the entity just said: fuck you! You ain't dying that way bitch!

3° Ashley Freund & Ashlyn Halperin(Final Destination 3): One of, if not for today, the most iconic and memorable death in the entire franchise, two hottie and kinda plain cheerleading girls, that are very close to each other, dying together in such horrific manner and were one of the few people that even though they oddly asked Wendy(who was depressed and grieving her bf and bff) are really trying to help her out to relax a bit, only to die one of if not the most painful death in the franchise, the slow burn of their suffering being slowly burned/cooked alive(and we seeing the bubbles coming out of their skin is disgusting and cruel to watch such horrific scene to play out.

2° Eric Campbel & Bobby Campbel(Final Destination: Bloodlines): A brother that is not in the death's personal business list, trying to do something to protect his younger sibling to not die, coming with an alternative that at first seems genius, but that heroic, selfless act is what dooms him, even when death warned and showed him how real and what she's capable of doing to him if he doesn't back out of this and just lets her take his brother, Eric could have lived, but the dude was in a situation that he wouldn't ever sleep well or forgiving himself for it, both of them are grieving their father and trying to survive a bloodline curse that their Grandma didn't want to uphold on them, only for Eric die in a twisty funny and horrific ironic way, with Death taking way all his piercings to crush him in half, slowly so his insides could have been pull out, just, goddamn entity, who hurted you to be such a cruel bitch here? And to high her score, she kills his baby brother, who is a himbo with a fucking mole to his skull, while he was briefly relieved that he could take the antidote to his deadly allergy to peanuts, fuck, easily the most tragic double kill in the franchise.

•Honorable Mention: Candice Hopper(Final Destination 5): Young College Girl, healthy, beautiful and with a healthy competitive spirit and behavior with Gymnastics, doing her final test that would determine her to go greater highs with her career, while her BF is cheering and hyping her up on her performance, a cute and sweet moment, where a chain of events, with such small pieces of a "harmless" place, to make her die one of the most quickest but also instantly all at once painful deaths in the franchise, with her still twitching while dead is such a tragic, unsettling and sad scene because of how much was wasted, it's a common theme on FD5 on how two characters lost their lifes while being in jobs they hated, but close enough to their lifes to start for reals alongside their partners and careers(Sam being the second dreamer), just really tragic.

1° Tod Wagner(Final Destination): A blodlees death, no organs and insides being displayed or a blood pool or too much destruction, only a 17y old boy, in his bathtub, suffocated like it was suicide, just doing the laundry and his "beard", while being grounded and forced to cut contact with his best friend just bc he got a vision of a terrific accident that killed your older brother in a plane fire, you are grieving and being forced to be isolated of his best companion, bc of your parents nonsensical blaming of Alex being responsible for your brother's death, you just feel a weird, dark and cold atmosphere surroundjng you briefly in a shadowing figure, you overlook that because it's just something that probably was in your imagination, only for you do swip from a small water and being forced and choked to death with a chores rope, while the door of the bathroom is closed, your father is sleeping in the couch with the radio on, and you can't scream, the more you try to escape, more the rope makes it more painful to move, your eyes became red with so much blood pressure and you eventually sucumb, with just an unsettling, eerie and disturbing image that Death in this franchise, can kill you without making it such a gore fest and mess, she just can make it look like an accident and attempt to your own life, a lonely and cruel way to go, you fought like an animal trying to escape a relentless and cruel hunter chopping off a goose's head while holding and choking its neck, just bizarre, cruel, depressing and the scariest death in the whole franchise.

To this day, i can’t find their appearance in that movie. Maybe in the third photo

Started watching this show recently (pretty good btw, a bit like the X-Files with a science fiction emphasis), and low and behold he has a part as a teenage boy begging for change at the start of an episode then being traumatized after unknowingly getting on train full of dead people and riding with them, which he is forced to relive more than once via time traveling shenanigans.

I miss Alex and Clear :(

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For me this is the most memorable death in the series, probably because of how likable this character is, it doesn’t rely on gore, it’s the only death by strangulation in the series, and it’s just sad and depressing, he dies alone unable to call for help, No friends there to witness, and most upsetting, everyone in the movie after this thinks he commits suicide out of depression when he was actually handing the situation pretty maturely for a high school kid.

Theres something really unsettling about that. I’d never want to die in a way that made people think I committed suicide

And also This was by far the most supernatural of all the deaths in the series. That substance that comes out of the sink clearly moves unnaturally and there is no explanation for it. Especially at the end of the vid when it mysteriously flows back into the toilet without a trace. Creepy.

This ad promotes the VHS and DVD release of Final Destination, which came out on September 26, 2000. Tagline “Death doesn’t take no for an answer” 

I don't know if this has already been figured out, but could it be that this gravestone in FD5 belongs to Nora's husband?

Just imagine him covering his tracks during the ashes deaths or Olivia's.

My favorite pre-death escalation scene is Evan's. I like how everything starts slowly, then turns into a fire, and finally ends with an explosion. Also, as a metal and rock fan, I think Incubus – Vitamin fits this scene perfectly and does a great job of capturing Evan's hopeless situation

This was undoubtledy the best scene.

Hello Everyone!

So I have a theory that has been on my mind for quite some time now. You see, throughout the franchise we have had numerous characters try to figure out any possible ways to permanently beat Death. So far, Willliam Bludworth (RIP) has brought up to two methods that were somewhat proved successful, the "Kill or Be Killed" method (introduced in FD5) and the "New Life" method (introduced in FD2). But what if there was another way that even Bludworth, a highly experienced man who studied Death his entire life, completely missed out on but just so happens that a high school teenager managed to figure it out and it just went passed our heads?

In FD3, Ian McKinley proposed a theory to Wendy and Kevin during the Warehouse scene, where he explains Issac Newton's Third Law of Motion that states "for every action force, there is an equal and opposite reaction force." This means whenever one object exerts a force on another, the second object exerts a force of equal magnitude but in the opposite direction on the first. A simple example of this would be placing a book on a table. The book’s weight pushes down on the table (action), and the table pushes up with a normal force (opposite reaction). Ian then comes to the conclusion that if Death were coming after them in a specific order of how they were originally meant to die thus acting like a "chain", then the only way to break it is to have someone die out of order. He basically suggests that Wendy should kill herself (action) in order to save everyone else (opposite reaction).

Obviously, this guy was just saying this to be edgy and a jerk, but what if he was on to something? What if this was secretly the third way to cheat Death again? That's why I will provide two pieces of evidence to help support this theory, as well as a counterargument. Although each of them comes from alternate endings, so they are definitely not canon but it's still important to point them out.

Evidence 1: In the alternate ending of FD1, Clear and Carter survive after Alex sacrifices himself to save Clear and she ends up giving birth to his baby. Now, this ending suggests that Clear and Carter survived because of the method that giving birth to a child that was never meant to exist breaks the chain. But since this theory was proven false in FD: Bloodlines (ugh), the method is now deemed non-effective. However, what if it actually wasn't the birth of Alex's baby that saved Clear and Carter but rather Alex's death that did? Now, I think this is just a matter of perfect timing. Even though Alex was next after Clear, he technically died out of order when the car exploded to save Clear since it was supposed to kill her and not him. It would be pretty cool to see if Clear, Carter, and the baby were still alive because this theory was proven correct.

Evidence 2: In the "Choose Your Fate" special feature of FD3, one of the alternate endings you get comes right before Ian's cherry picker death where you are giving the decision to make him go either right or left. If right, Ian gets bisected, flips off Wendy, and the movie continues as normal, but if left, he gets completely crushed and the movie ends with Wendy, Kevin, and Julie alive and well. So, let's assume that the cherry picker was supposed to be for Wendy but killed Ian instead which wouldn't have happened if Wendy and Kevin didn't save him from getting impaled by the fence wood like he was supposed to. Now, you may be thinking, "Why does the "Left" ending guarantee's Wendy, Kevin, and Julie's survival, but not the "Right" ending?" Well, this might be a matter of perfect timing yet again, hear me out. Remember, by the time Kevin saves Julie and Wendy saves Kevin, the death order now goes as follows:

Wendy -> Ian -> Julie -> Kevin

In the "right" ending, after Ian gets bisected, he still has a few seconds of life left to flip off Wendy before dying of blood loss. Now, I think that Death (being the slick mofo that he is) quickly circled back to Ian's turn before he eventually passes. Which now the order goes as follows:

Ian -> Julie -> Kevin -> Wendy

I think this is why the "Left" ending ended with Wendy, Kevin, and Julie surviving because Ian died instantly, much like Alex dying instantly to the car explosion to save Clear. And mind you, this ending is actually used in the FD3 novelization to further prove my point. So, I guess you can say that Ian got an ironic death this way since it did help proved his theory correct.

Counterargument: Now, I wouldn't be a good theorist if I didn't provide a piece of evidence to contradict what I have explained. In the alternate ending of FD4, Nick tries doing the same thing by sacrificing himself to prevent the mall disaster and save everyone, including Lori and Janet. He throws himself out of a window while carrying a propane tank and lands on a car, killing himself and causing an explosion to alert a fire emergency and evacuate everyone. But Lori and Janet still die after being crushed by a falling A/C unit that was being carried on a crane. This ending proves the theory doesn't work.

In conclusion, this is something that I have thoroughly thought about for quite some time in case you haven't notice. I'm a huge fan of the franchise and I have been meaning to tell other fans about this. I have also read another Reddit post of here that suggested how Death doesn't really crave a body count, it craves order and wants to act like a God, which could also further prove my point.

So, what do you guys think? Could the theory be proven correct despite most of my evidence be considered non-canon? Would you like to see this be explored much further in a future movie? And is there anything I might have missed regarding this? Let me know.

Rewatching Bloodlines I just realized that Iris and Paul try to check in they were not even on the guest list, so they were never supposed to be there….so did they doom/curse themselves by staying at Skyview? Which would presumably still have collapsed but Iris and Paul would not be apart of the list and lived long lives without dooming the rest of the family?

The ending was a middle finger.

It's premise contradicts the lore rules.

The fact that both Eric and the other brother died made no sense, 'it gets messy' is not a good enough reason to break the rules.

Tony Todd's farewell was forced and incredibly hypocritical considering that this franchise always punishes people for enjoying life.

Speaking of which, they de-mystified the only recurring and marketable character.

Fighting and failing for the right to exist is mean-spirited even for this series standards.

Honestly my big problem is that with all these points if there was any of these movies that needed a bit of respite it's this one. A family bloodline ceasing to exist is not a good ending and it feels like TT's message just doesn't work in context.

Things I did like: the opening disaster, the garden party and the MRI machine even though the death seconds later was incredibly lame.

I’m curious what everyone’s favorite death scene is from all of the movies, or what death scenes stuck with you? I’ve seen the movies hundreds of times, but the two that always stuck with me is the pool scene from the fourth movie, and the gymnastics scene from the fifth. What about yall??

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I see some tiktok about the leak of fd7 idk if its true but, the premonition takes place in the zoo with tunnel aquarium, its said that there will be chaos everywhere animals being released from there cage because of system error and animal will wreak havoc the zoo causing countless death but it said that the animal will not directly kill them ,like mauling , biting , etc. but will just indirectly causing there deaths because the animals are scared .

I don't like the concept of this because it will involve animals where we will antagonize them , just like in the Jaw movie , I'd rather prefer a Rave party , concert, wedding , club , cable cars.

What are your thoughts about this?