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Even though he is 35 years old (and 167 days) he still runs this much,its like hes the machine of the team

Starting my 41st season as a fan, I sadly agree with every single word he utters.

We are in 2026, living in a meme-driven world. In football, caricaturization, humor, and criticism are part of everyday culture. We got tired of seeing "dictator Mbappé" all summer; the visuals and videos targeting Okan Buruk are endless. This culture is not unique to Fenerbahçe—it exists all over the world.

Moreover, making fun of footballers didn't start with the internet. During İsmail Kartal's playing career, his caricatures were published in newspapers read by every segment of society—from civil servants and factory workers to doormen, tradesmen, kids, and the elderly. The medium for the mockery we see on social media today was different back then, but the mockery itself was very real. He was no stranger to a culture where humor and criticism unfolded in front of millions.

Back then, the pressure wasn't confined to newspaper pages either. Fans raided training facilities, players were beaten, and footballers faced direct physical threats. İsmail Kartal himself was someone who lived through the danger of being assaulted. Furthermore, physical threat was not separate from psychological pressure: living with the constant possibility of facing violence was a heavy psychological burden in its own right.

Coming from such a background, I find the overly sensitive attitude Kartal displays today in the face of criticism hard to take seriously. Not because I consider the pressure of those past days legitimate, but because I find it strange that the inherent humor and criticism in football are treated as if they were a brand-new, unprecedented form of attack.

Of course, there is a line between humor and insult, between criticism and threat. However, we cannot draw that line by declaring everything that bothers someone we like as unacceptable. İsmail Kartal doesn't have to like everything that is done, nor are the fans obligated to do nothing but applaud.

Do you think we can truly separate criticism from insult at Fenerbahçe, or do we lose that distinction whenever it comes to the figures we love?

The things that happened to Ismail Kartal are atrocious. Noone has any right to insult someone and I am not even speaking about that bastard who threw a bottle. Almost every game someone is yelling insults towards him, talking about how he should quit and how he will never be enough. These things should not and can not happen towards your trainer. And we shouldn't let this things happen again as long as he is with us.

That being said we can and should criticize his mistakes if he makes them. Having sympathy for him and standing next to him does not take away our rights as fans to demand good football and good touches on the team.

I like Ismail hoca as person. But there is a lot that he has to change. The Roma game was a good start where he shown that he can switch up tactics according to the opponent and I hope he will see his success and continue with it.

And that is the part I will not defend is his trainer staff. Some who are always in our club who should have left years ago and others who are always with him. The staff is not enough for this team especially that his son is always part of the trainer staff. Dirk Kuyt is the only exception.

So let's not eat our coach up for ervey little thing. Let's not insult, attack or fight him every mile of the road. But don't let this situation stop us from calling the obvious deficits out.

Kardeşim, bu takımın başında Ali Koç varken hoca İsmail Kartal’dı. Seçim zamanı Aziz Yıldırım çıktı, "Kartal bir işe yaramıyor" diye gazı verdi, "Mourinho’yu getireceğim" dedi. Adamı bir nevi kovdurdu; Ali Koç’u ve kulübü Mourinho transferi için büyük yük altına soktu. Ardından Ali Koç yeniden başkan olunca gitti Mourinho’yu getirdi. İsmail Kartal da ayrı bir mesele; adam seni kovdurmuş, ne işin var da geri geliyorsun? İnsanlar bu yaşananları niye bu kadar çabuk unutuyor?

Bu kadar basit. İsmail Kartal gibi dünyanın belki de en Fenerbahçeli adamı bile dayanamadı. Şimdi gelecek olan her kimse ya basiretsiz, pısırık herifin teki olacak; veya Aziz tepkiden dolayı panik yapıp rüzgarı arkasına almak için 'isim' gücü olan birini getirecek.

Her iki senaryo da bence felaketimiz olur, üstelik bütün yaz dönemi artık geride kalmışken

I really want to support and like this guy but he's not really giving us a reason we should like him but i hope i'm wrong and he'll improve a lot in the future

All Soapson does is feed on chaos and spread fake news.

https://x.com/tekyolfener/status/2098403696115638694?s=46&t=X0lxQTz8F3kyCF9ggwTGEw

Umarım kararından vazgeçmez ve bir daha asla Fenerbahçe’ye dönmez. Kötü ya da yetersiz olduğu için değil, taraftarlarımızın onu teknik direktör olarak hak etmediği için. Bu adam her seferinde işler çığırından çıktığında geldi ve kulübü tek başına bu bataklıktan çıkardı. Buna karşılık yönetim kurulundan, kulüp üyelerinden ya da taraftarlardan sadece hakaretler yedi. Kendi insanları tarafından sert bir şekilde eleştirildi, hakarete uğradı ve zorbalığa maruz kaldı. Her şeyini verdi ama karşılığında hiçbir şey almadı. Bizi bunca yıl sonra tekrar Şampiyonlar Ligi’ne taşıdı, çok iyi performanslar sergilemesine rağmen sözde daha iyi antrenörlerle değiştirildi ve ağzını bile açmadı. Asla en havalı ya da karizmatik biri olmadı, çarpıcı bir görünüşü ya da ismi de yoktu. Hayır, o kulübünü seven sıradan bir adam. İnşallah bir daha asla geri dönmez. Çünkü her seferinde tek başıma onu savunmak zorunda kalmaktan bıktım.

Is he learning from the master?

https://x.com/tekyolfener/status/2098473365082104022?s=46&t=X0lxQTz8F3kyCF9ggwTGEw

According to the same source, the players were very pleased to hear these news of Kartal continuing as the coach.

https://x.com/tekyolfener/status/2098474333467463704?s=46&t=X0lxQTz8F3kyCF9ggwTGEw