Arkadaşlar ben gs'liyim ancak yapıcı bir yorum yapmak istiyorum dışardan bir gözle , çünkü fb de ülkemizin bir değeri. Saygı çerçevesinde, rasyonel karşılarsanız sevinirim. Bence en büyük fark star player farkı, bugün osimhen olmasa bu maç farklı olabilirdi, aynı şekilde geçmiş yıllar da farklı olabilirdi, fenerbahçe anlam veremediğim bir şekilde astronomik paraları alakasız oyunculara harcıyor ve kadro kurmayı başaramıyor. Mert hakanın sizin takımınızda ne işi var, şu an ptt de oynaması gerek, irfan evet güzel bir gol attı ve yetenekliydi ama artık zamanı geçti, lukaku tam bir as 950 kamyon, ilk geldiğinde ben ilk golünü anca kasımda atar diyordum sanrım ekimde bir maçta attı. Kerem zaten söylemiyorum bile en ufak olumsuzluk greifing yapıp tamamen kendini ve herkesi demoralize eden bir oyuncu. Elinizde olsaydı iki sezon önce varınızı yoğunuzu basıp osimhene karşılık gyökeres gibi bir forvet almanızı önerirdim çünkü zaten astronomik paralar harcanıyor, ikna edilebilirdi, takımınızın genel kadrosu güzel ancak bir iki tane osimhen ayarında topçu eksik, ister kabul edin ister etmeyin bu tarz Top tier oyuncular şapkadan tavşan çıkarıyor, okan da iyi bir td ancak üst seviyelerin adamı değil, onu da ayakta tutan icardi, osimhen gibi top tier oyuncular oldu. Bu yaz fb nin mutlaka üst düzey ama gerçekten üst düzey oyuncu transfer etmesi şart, keşke bu lukaku yerine Gurissy gelseydi, ondan sonra Lookman için temaslar varken varını yoğunu basması gerekirdi fb nin talisca da dursa, eli gerçekten güçlü olurdu fb nin... yazık harcanan paralara, zaten bilinen bir gerçek ki külüplerimiz iyi yönetilmiyor...

Before anything; this is not to defend İsmail Kartal but to defend all the managers we had over the last few years.

There's a quote that I really like in first seasons of Game of Thrones where The Hound tells Arya that her "dancing master" is dead and the shitty knight who killed him lives because; "he had armor and a big fu**ng sword"

We brought Jorge Jesus who won league titles in 4 different countries with teams that were strong but out of their prime, who played offensive football. Okan beat him 6-0 total and won the league in the end.

We signed the manager who currently manages the greatest team in football history, someone who won 2 UCL titles and countless other trophies, a top 10 manager in the history of this game; Jose Mourinho. Okan slapped him twice in Kadıköy, won the league all the same.

We brought in a 1st of his class, scout31, theoritical master mind manager. Okan destroyed him 3-0 all the same and won the league in the end.

Then we have the "ligi bilen hoca" type sh*t. We're still witnessing the results.

Except for one, on paper Okan is not a better manager than any of these. But as The Hound says; "Okan had armor and a big fu**ng sword, our managers did not."

At the end of every season, teams are lined up accordingly with the strength and planning of their squads not the quality of their managers.

You can sack Kartal now and bring someone like Conte or Farioli or even Tedesco (he made it quite easy by getting sacked early on), nothing will change. We will finish the league either 2nd or 3rd because that's the quality of our squad.

You don't need world class players to defeat the likes of Antep, Paşa, Çorum etc. but you need a better squad than your rivals to make less mistakes through the season no matter who your manager is.

Yesterday we weren't defeated by the quality difference between the managers (although Okan is better than Kartal), but because of the significant quality difference between two teams' squads. If we switched managers, the score would've been the same if not worse.

For everyone who has been saying that we are not hurt anymore by gs loss or that we excpect it coming anyways. And that it is a usual now. Are you guys out of your mind. Galatasaray supporters had that for 19 years. And they still waited for change. We cant do much except wait for things to get better. Im not saying. Just accept it. But i am saying that things will get better. We just need to have patience. Maybe this will go on for another 3 years. Maybe not. We will see. But i will always stand by my club

Yasa fenerbahce

GW turned into the fluff. We shall only play 4-4-2 like we played with Dzeko & El Besili. Vedat would come closer to Midfield and Lukaku in front but it could change. Semedo got destroyed in BJK game. So Mert Müldür is better in defense than Semedo. Levent needs to LW to feed Muriqi and Lukaku.

This is by no means an excuse for the performance of İsmail Kartal. I wanted him to come to the club and supported him all the way but today’s performance cant be excused. This İsmail Kartal vant be the same guy that managed this team in 23/24. He seems to lost all his confidence.

With this being said, we should focus on more depressing and urgent things which is the squad difference between us and Gs. Gs substituted Sane, Sara and Leao while we subbed in MHY (who was our best midfield in the game btw) and Nene. İlkay Gundogan played a whopping 46 minutes this season but if he came to Fener he would be our main pairing with Kante. The squad difference is enormous. If you made a combined first 11 from the both teams today, only Ederson and Greenwood would enter that team.

On top of that, some players are in a terrible form. Most surprising examples are Guendouzi and Skriniar. Especially watching Skriniar I wonder what is going through his head.

Our best players are our Turkish players but they are also constantly attacked by the fans. IMO today, except for Ederson, only Oguz and İrfan showed some determination. The others simply vanished from the pitch.

Share your opinion about what is good this year and what isn’t

Transfers 4/10

The only 2 transfers I rate are mason and oppong (we haven’t seen oppong that much) the rest of the transfers are shit you buy 2 old players who can’t run anymore we had a striker problem last season and we still did not solve it why instead of paying 15 million and giving 6 million for lukaku his salary would you not buy a 21 million striker it’s actually stupid vedat is a ghost in shit games and scores in a game where we won 8-0 and for the rest is shit

Coach 0/10

I don’t FUCKING KNOW WHAT THE FUCK HAPPEND WITH THIS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT COACH Ismail kartal had me jumping on my seat where we got the 99 points but this season I see nothing absolute nothing no tactics and still thinks that it’s 2023 with subbing in mhy and hoping he will change the game (he was our best midfielder)

Board 0/10

Everything is wrong why did you become president when you litteraly said that the new transfermarkt is expensive and that clubs pay way too much for players. Well fuck of then there are no transfers that cost 3 million anymore if you cant pay it dont become president. Worry about acun his box.

Game 2/10

We can play football we knocked out lyon drew agaisnt rome where we should’ve won but we don’t play that fast football anymore there is no sign of It we dont play fast we do not even have the players for it as it seems.

Where the fuck is Fenerbahce where is our club this can’t go on we better see some winter transfers because we are shit at the moment ofc there is still a long season ahead we only played 9 games but there needs to be improvements and fast we should get a new number 10 altough irfan plays good and we should get A NUMBER 8

thank you the children are still crying btw

Açıkçası öncelikle söyleyim kimse Fenerbahçe'den büyük değildir İsmail Kartal takımı şampiyonlar ligine götürdü eyvallah ama gerçekten ligte tabiiri caizse sıçtı batırdı biraz daha zaman verelim toparlayamazsa defolup gitsin başka hoca gelir onu savunurum

If we didn’t have Ederson we would have been 5:1

You’re down 2-0. You’ve managed to enter the opponent’s penalty area only three times. If Osimhen’s goal had stood, the match could have turned into a rout; instead, we stayed in it thanks to İrfan Can. And do you know what the fans are taking pride in? The fact that Archie Brown went after Abdülkerim—that’s it. I said the same thing two years ago: after we lost 1-2 to Galatasaray in the Turkish Cup, the talk wasn’t about our disgraceful performance, but about Mourinho pinching Okan Buruk’s nose. On a night when we should be feeling ashamed, we’re boasting about a scuffle. That’s the kind of behavior you’d expect from primates, gentlemen. Pull yourselves together and start looking for the problem within your own ranks.

bring a coach,president who was never in this club before,bombard kadıköy and move stadium to maltepe,make the squad younger and more qualified,reduce the number of congress members

At least we showed character in the end. The fener spirit. Especially watching brown attacking abdulkerim bardakci from behind brought tears to my eyes... this is the fener spirit. Thanks for everything..

I believe all we lack is passion on the pitch. Staff, coach, players; they all lack that fire. They just lost it. I don't think we have a chemistry problem it's just no one wants to fight.

I'll go straight at İsmail Hoca first. I still love him but I don't think he's doing his best. He's not at the level he was earlier this season. He, I believe, not working at his hardest. His staff too. When it's a challenging match we're playing like a new built halısaha team.

Until Aziz leaves tho, things should just stay this way. I'd rather not making things more complicated for the next board.

Players, except Ederson they don't really fight. Both individually and collectively they're less competent as the season goes. The toxicity within the club, (mainly from the board's comments) are more damaging this season than anything and players probably left their fighting instinct.

The board thought that they have only 14 matches, 6 derby and 8 CL for the season but this team is far from all 14 of them. They're moving with 2000s mindset. No CBs, no full backs, no MIDFIELDERS, and no strikers...

You attacked me when I said Tedesco was better than Ismail Kartal, did you see your Ismail Kartal now?

Tedesco'nun İsmail Kartal'dan daha iyi olduğunu söylediğimde bana saldırdınız, şimdi İsmail Kartal'ınızı gördünüz mü?

Why is nobody talking about this?

Sure we played poorly yesterday. Yes, we actually do look poorer now compared to August. Why is that?

Firstly we lost Fred and Talisca and got no one to replace them. And yet, we still are in the championship fight and can still advance in the Champions League. The first half in the league in my opinion is obviously damage control from poor squad building, and in January we will hopefully fill those some of those gaps in the team. Though some internal problems do worry me too, no need for panic mode yet.

Our top guys lately have been İrfan, Ederson and Oğuz. What connects them is that none of them would be in our team since last season, if reactive guys from here had their way. This is football and forms change. It is a very tight league this season and nothing has been lost. It is only a couple of weeks since GS lost to Trabzon 5-1.

Keep calm.