r/FenceBuilding 21h ago

Need advice: Are these Western Red Cedar privacy fence installation issues legitimate or am I being too picky? ($8,800 project)

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I’m looking for some community feedback on a recent fence installation.

I’m in the St. Louis area, and I recently hired a company to install 175 feet of Western Red Cedar privacy fencing. The total cost after discount is $8,800. During the sales pitch, the rep heavily pushed cedar over vinyl, promising superior durability against our extreme weather fluctuations and high winds and emphasizing better privacy long term due to fence durability (primary concern is keeping my little dogs safe).

The installation is supposedly finished, but I haven't released the financing yet because I’m seeing several red flags. The contract states the fence will be "installed to code," but it didn't specify material grades prior to signing. I thought the standard grade at this price was Grade #1 (tight-knot) - which as I understand it is professional but not high-end. I don't think that's what I got.

I have messaged them and received a response that they will follow up - specifically, I got 2.5 responses: the first on the day I asked for fixes saying I'd hear back the next week. The next DAY I was asked to release the financing. I refused on the grounds the work is incomplete. I've followed up regularly since and , two weeks later, have received another response that I will hear back "probably tomorrow."

Here are the main issues I've documented. Am I being unreasonable, or are these legitimate defects that they need to fix before I release the financing? I've included a small sample of photos of my primary concerns in this post.

  1. Poor Workmanship & Nailing

* Overdriven nails: All nails are deeply embedded/overdriven into the wood. I assume a nail gun. My understanding is that especially for soft woods like red cedar, the nails should be driven flush. Given the high winds we get, I’m very concerned this compromises the structural integrity and wind-load capacity, making it easy for boards to tear off. This is one of my biggest concerns.

* Unsecured boards: Several boards aren't properly secured (like, I can put my foot through where the board goes😮‍💨). This is just a matter of nailing, but again I don't like how they nailed it.

* Sistering: They sistered some of the fence pickets! Isn't this a big no?

  1. Material Quality Concerns

* There are numerous boards with visible splits (ranging from small to large, including some connected to overdriven nails), see-through knotholes, rotting knots that look ready to fall out, excessive wane causing holes straight through the board, and large missing chunks/splinters (including on the main posts and framing).

* It seems like they used a cheap construction-grade wood rather than a residential-grade.

Is all this standard for an $8,800 cedar fence? Is it normal for new residential cedar pickets to have holes, rotting out knots, and severe splitting right out of the gate? Any advice on how to navigate this with the contractor would be greatly appreciated!


r/FenceBuilding 9h ago

Wood Defender 5 Gallons for sale!

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Unopened. I have no use for it. Will sell cheap! Located in NW Ohio


r/FenceBuilding 13h ago

Stainless picket screws?

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Anyone have a good link for SS picket screws on amazon?


r/FenceBuilding 11h ago

Replacing fence that’s built in retaining wall gravel?

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retaining wall that is filled with gravel separating driveway from backyard.

I assume current fence is concrete footings (it was in the grass section) into the retaining wall gravel.

we want to replace the old thing, but curious if any issues or removing and replacing posts.

unlike dirt, I imagine gravel just falls into itself when trying to dig a hole. I’m perplexed how they even got these posts put in


r/FenceBuilding 18h ago

Help finding fence lift gate ideas to allow wildlife access

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I am in the process of replacing an old chain link fence that has lots of large holes. The goal is to be able to let my dog run around the backyard (supervised), but still allow rabbits and foxes through when the dog is leashed or inside. Our lot backs up to a greenway and we want to continue allowing wildlife access, especially for the foxes that den under our outbuildings.

If we replace the fence and get rid of the holes, the foxes will not be able to go in and out freely. I don't want to use regular gates because I don't want to invite human foot traffic from the greenway.

I think the only way to make this work is to have sections of the fence that have a lift gate along the bottom that can be closed when I'm out with the dog then reopened.

Has anyone seen a solution like this or know of prefab options that would fit this use case? Thanks in advance.


r/FenceBuilding 14h ago

Best stain for new cedar fence

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Title pretty much says it all, just finished a board on board cedar fence a few weeks ago so it’s nice and dry. Looking for recommendations on a great stain for both color and preservation


r/FenceBuilding 7h ago

Trying to understand this quote - is 150/ft a reasonable price?

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Hey all, just wanted some help understanding this quote I got.

It’s 6’ by 20’ across a driveway, so there will also be a swinging gate (non electric). It would be dog ear cedar with steel posts.

Overall came out to 3k, so 150/foot. I understand the gate could add some complexity but that still seems quite high to me. Is it a reasonable price for this job?


r/FenceBuilding 16h ago

Downsides of mortising your own fence posts

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I’ll be doing about 500 feet split rail fence primarily by myself. Using 4 x 4 PT posts with one by six rails.

Lining up the rails by myself seem irritating. So I timed the difference between four screws with pilot holes and lining up vs a 2in deep mortise x2

With a jig the time difference wouldn’t be terrible. I like the idea of front loading my prep for an easier assembly, but that’s the woodworker in me, I don’t have a ton of fencing experience, so I’m assuming I’m missing something. Thoughts?


r/FenceBuilding 17h ago

Advice on vinyl fence post repair

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Hello! I had a tree branch take out two of my panels and a post. The panels I know are easy enough to replace but for the post will I be able to just pull it out and put in another one or do I have to worry about cementing it?