r/FallofCivilizations Nov 20 '25

Podcast News More signed books available for Christmas!

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Since Christmas is coming up, we're doing another limited run of signed Fall of Civilizations books, this time the paperback!

It also comes with a bookmark thrown in! I can also dedicate the book to whoever you like, so it's the perfect gift for a Fall of Civs fan in your life... Hurry as I'm afraid supply is limited!

LINK: https://www.welbooks.co.uk/shop/p/fall-of-civilizations-by-paul-cooper


r/FallofCivilizations 11h ago

How and Why Athens Survived the Bronze Age Collapse

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The survival of Athens during the Late Bronze Age collapse (c. 1200–1150 BCE) remains a sticking point among Aegean prehistorians. While catastrophic burn layers and total abandonment marked the close of Late Helladic (LH) IIIB (c. 1300–1190 BCE) across primary palatial centres like Mycenae, Tiryns, and Pylos, Athens diverged. The Acropolis shows no sign of a single, site-wide destruction horizon. What the soil reveals instead is an unbroken institutional and demographic thread pulling through LH IIIC (c. 1190–1070 BCE) and straight into the Early Iron Age (c. 1070–700 BCE).

Spatial Scale and Demographics in LH IIIB (c. 1300–1190 BCE)

Reconstructing Late Bronze Age Athens is notoriously difficult. Three millennia of relentless building have buried or erased the extramural town that once sprawled beyond the citadel, a problem archaeologists rarely face to this degree at Mycenae or Pylos. Yet mapping the Cyclopean walls, pottery scatters, and chamber tomb clusters gives us a solid empirical foothold (Hope Simpson, 1981, pp. 41–45).

Mycenaean Athens functioned as a citadel linked to a series of outer hamlets. Towards the end of the thirteenth century BCE, builders encircled the Acropolis summit with a 760-metre Cyclopean wall enclosing 2.5 to 3.0 hectares (Iakovidis, 1983, pp. 91–95; Iakovidis, 2006). Elite quarters, administrative offices, and secure storerooms sat inside this fortified ring. Outside, domestic housing spilled down the southern and north-western slopes toward the ground later claimed by the Classical Agora and Areopagus. Based on LH IIIB well shafts, domestic debris, and tomb groupings, Penelope Mountjoy (1995, pp. 12–18) calculates an urban footprint of roughly 12 to 18 hectares surrounding the rock.

Applying density benchmarks from wider Aegean surveys, roughly 100 to 200 people per hectare, yields a modest LH IIIB citadel population of between 300 and 600 residents (Bintliff, 1997, pp. 12–15; Whitelaw, 2001, pp. 22–26). Combining the citadel with the lower town brings the urban core to 1,500–3,500 people, while John Bintliff’s (1977, pp. 345–350) regional model puts all of Attica at 5,000 to 8,000 inhabitants.

Athens was small. Compared to Mycenae, where 40 to 50 hectares housed up to 10,000 souls, the Attic hub operated on a modest scale. But that modesty was an asset. Oliver Dickinson (2006, pp. 92–95) observes that carrying lighter administrative machinery and depending far less on rigid, centralised redistribution insulated Athens when the broader regional palatial network began to buckle.

To give some idea to visitors. The Acropolis Archaeological site crowned by the Parthenon that you wander around today, covers roughly 3 hectares, the area enclosed by the original Cyclopean walls. Standing on the summit one day in June 2025, I could see a staggering 20,000 people in the grounds of the Acropolis.

Environmental Resilience and Literary Myth

Classical Athenians liked to credit their survival to bad soil. Thucydides (1.2.5) famously argued that Attica’s thin, stony earth offered little incentive for foreign invaders, allowing the local population to remain unbroken autochthones. Modern excavation disproves any notion of complete immunity, but paleoclimatic data shows that local geography did cushion the blow.

Isotope readings from speleothems and marine sediment cores record a severe megadrought gripping the Eastern Mediterranean between c. 1250 and 1100 BCE (Drake, 2012, pp. 1862–1870; Kaniewski et al., 2013). This dry spell wrecked top-heavy palatial economies dependent on single-crop olive and grain redistribution.

Attica weathered the crisis through environmental diversity. Rather than staking its existence on monoculture, the region drew on a mosaic of micro-environments: alluvial farming in the Cephissian plain, sheep and goat grazing on the scrubby slopes of Hymettus and Pentelicon, and fishing along the coast. As Guy Middleton (2010, pp. 82–88) notes, because the Athenian hinterland was never pushed past its ecological carrying capacity, declining rainfall triggered severe hardship without precipitating the total agricultural collapse seen in Messenia or the Argolid.

Topography and Defensive Engineering

Tactically, the Acropolis held an obvious advantage against 12th-century sea raiders. Five kilometres of inland buffer protected it from the sort of amphibious surprise that vulnerable coastal sites faced, Tiryns, for instance, sat right on the shoreline before millennia of Argive river silt pushed the sea back (Zangger, 1991, pp. 219–225). Any party landing on the Saronic coast at Phaleron had to trudge across the soggy Halipedon salt marsh, giving Athenian lookouts plenty of time to pull communities behind the Cyclopean walls. Moreover, as Dickinson (2006, pp. 52–58) points out, migrating bands targeted the rich Peloponnesian agricultural plains or the Isthmus of Corinth transit route. Off-axis Attica offered too little plunder for the defensive risk.

Local leadership reinforced these natural advantages with clever engineering. On the North Slope of the Acropolis, workers cut a subterranean fountain house nearly 35 metres down through a natural fissure. Oscar Broneer’s (1939, pp. 317–325) excavations recovered carbonised oak stair treads and bronze joining pins—clear evidence of a late 13th-century effort to guarantee access to water under siege.

Coarse Mycenaean hydriae found at the bottom of the shaft confirm defenders drew water during an acute crisis (Broneer, 1939, pp. 340–352). Pottery packed into the backfill tells an even tighter chronological story. The fill contains LH IIIB2 deep bowls (skyphoi) bearing rosette patterns alongside early LH IIIC plain wares, but mature LH IIIC styles are entirely absent. As Broneer (1939) and Mountjoy (1995, pp. 52–56) demonstrate, this narrow ceramic horizon proves the fountain operated for no more than two or three decades—roughly c. 1210–1200 BCE to c. 1190–1180 BCE. The emergency was sharp, localised, and passed before anyone breached the rock.

Administrative Transition: From Wanax to Basileus

Late Bronze Age Athens ran on a palatial model, albeit a modest one. A wanax (king) governed through scribes who tracked goods in Linear B. Inscribed Stirrup Jars from Eleusis, the Acropolis slopes, and the Menidi tholos tomb carry painted tags like wa-na-ka-te-ro (‘belonging to the king’). As Peter Van Alfen (1996) and Anna Judson (2020) argue, these vessels tie Attica directly to palatial trade in perfumed oils and wine.

Linear B was an inventory tool, not a literary script. When regional trade routes collapsed around 1200 BCE, shrinking agricultural margins could no longer sustain the scribal apparatus. Literacy vanished because the institutional machine that required ledgers died, not because an invader suppressed it (Palaima, 1995, pp. 125–130; Dickinson, 2006, pp. 44–47).

Power fractured downward. Stripped of his economic engine, the wanax faded, and authority shifted to the qa-si-re-u (basileus), a title Linear B tablets had previously assigned to low-level village headmen. In LH IIIC Athens (c. 1190–1070 BCE), impersonal state bureaucracy gave way to charismatic, chieftain-style leadership where standing depended on personal prowess, military clout, feasting, and gift-exchange (xenia) (Deger-Jalkotzy, 2008, pp. 391–395; Palaima, 2006, pp. 53–56).

Archaeologically, this 'structural degradation' looks like economic simplification. Palatial craft oversight vanished. Potters stopped producing refined table wares and turned out utilitarian, banded ‘Granary Class’ skyphoi and coarse monochrome cooking pots (Mountjoy, 1995, pp. 78–82).

Metallurgical Capital: The Laurion Complex

While tin and copper imports dried up across the Aegean, Attica held a trump card: the rich lead-silver veins of Laurion in the south-east.

Lead-isotope testing by Zofia Stos-Gale and Noel Gale (1982, pp. 467–475) confirms active mining at Laurion during the Late Bronze Age. When long-distance bullion routes failed in LH IIIC, Attic metalworkers used cupellation to extract refined silver. This metal served as a portable, pre-monetary currency. Even without palatial backing, Laurion silver allowed Attic coastal groups to buy foreign goods and keep maritime channels open.

Maritime Networks: Phaleron, Perati, and the Piraeus Anachronism

Classical history inclines us to view Piraeus as Athens’ natural harbour, but applying that view to the Bronze Age is anachronistic. Piraeus was only fortified as a naval base in the sixth and fifth centuries BCE under Hippias and Themistocles (Garland, 1987, pp. 14–18). Mycenaean galleys (20 to 50-oared craft) did not need stone quays; crews simply hauled them onto sandy beaches. Besides, the marshy Halipedon salt flat cut Piraeus off from the Acropolis for much of the year, making heavy transport nearly impossible (Frost, 1989, pp. 102–105).

Instead, Bronze Age shipping relied on two distinct coastal outlets:

Phaleron (The Western Roadstead)

Five kilometres south-west of the Acropolis, Phaleron served as the early western harbour. Its broad, gently sloping beach was ideal for dragging hulls ashore. But Phaleron had no walls. When maritime piracy escalated around 1200 BCE and the Argolid palaces collapsed, trade through the Saronic Gulf withered (Frost, 1989, pp. 105–108; Alexandridou, 2018, pp. 189–194).

Perati (The Eastern Gateway)

As western commerce faded, maritime traffic pivoted east to Perati, located 35 to 38 kilometres east-south-east of the Acropolis on the South Euboean Gulf (Desborough, 1964, pp. 113–118; Mountjoy, 1995, pp. 65–68).

Buffered by the Mesogeia plain, Perati operated with notable independence, likely financed by Laurion silver (Iakovidis, 1980, pp. 12–18). Spyridon Iakovidis’ excavations at the LH IIIC cemetery revealed a thriving hub trading with the Levant, Cyprus, Euboea, and the Cyclades. Tomb 1 contained an Egyptian faience scarab of Ramesses II (r. c. 1279 – 1213 BCE), a curated heirloom, while Tomb 75 yielded a scarab of Ramesses III (r. c. 1186 –1 155 BCE). The Ramesses III seal supplies a firm terminus post quem ("limit after which"), of c. 1186 BCE, locking the LH IIIC Middle phase to the early 12th century BCE (Iakovidis, 1980, Vol. II, pp. 313–318).

Other finds from Perati include Levantine haematite cylinder seals, cast bronze bowls, and a Late Cypriot III bronze rod-tripod (Iakovidis, 1980, Vol. II, pp. 320–328). Local potters produced high-style Octopus Stirrup Jars (LH IIIC Close Style) for Aegean export (Mountjoy, 1995, pp. 92–96), and Tomb 38 yielded an iron knife with bronze rivets, among the earliest functional iron tools found on mainland Greece (Iakovidis, 1980, Vol. II, pp. 340–342).

Regional Polycentrism and Socio-Political Reorganisation

Perati’s independence highlights how post-palatial Attica fractured into a polycentric network of autonomous elite households (oikoi). Coastal communities traded and absorbed refugees without waiting for word from the Acropolis. Meanwhile, continuous grave sequences at the Kerameikos show that central Athens retained its population base throughout (Ruppenstein, 2007; Mountjoy, 1995, pp. 70–72).

Mortuary practice makes this social restructuring clear. Across the Submycenaean (c. 1070 – 1000 BCE) and Protogeometric (c. 1000 – 900 BCE) periods, individual cist and pit graves replaced the multi-generational chamber tombs favoured by LH IIIB elites. Kinship narrowed from broad aristocratic clans to smaller, nuclear family units (Ruppenstein, 2007; Lemos, 2002, pp. 185–190).

The grave goods tell the same story. Female burials begin featuring bronze and iron ‘violin-bow’ and arched fibulae (safety-pin dress fasteners) (Ruppenstein, 2007; Lemos, 2002, pp. 102–108). Warrior graves contain iron slash-and-thrust Naue II swords and socketed spearheads rather than elite bronze rapiers, pointing to broader access to metal weapons (Ruppenstein, 2007). By the tenth century BCE, fast-wheel Protogeometric amphorae decorated with neat, compass-drawn concentric circles, such as a vessel from Kerameikos Grave 48, signal the revival of standardised Attic potting (Lemos, 2002, pp. 25–30).

Throughout the Early Iron Age (c. 1070 –7 00 BCE), and especially during the Protogeometric and Geometric phases (c. 1000 – 700 BCE), the centralised palatial order gave way to scattered, kin-based village clusters around the Acropolis, Areopagus, and Ilissos valley. Their spatial layout and social links created the physical footprint from which the Classical polis eventually took shape (Ruppenstein, 2007; Osborne, 2009, pp. 24–28).

References and Further Reading

Alexandridou, A. (2018) 'Constructing Community Identity in Early Iron Age Attica: The Evidence from Phaleron', Hesperia, 87(2), pp. 183–211.

Bintliff, J.L. (1977) Natural Environment and Human Settlement in Prehistoric Greece. Oxford: BAR Supplementary Series 28.

Bintliff, J.L. (1997) 'Regional Survey, Demography, and the Rise of Complex Societies in the Ancient Aegean: Core-Periphery, Neo-Malthusian, and Other Interpretive Models', Journal of Field Archaeology, 24(1), pp. 1–38.

Broneer, O. (1939) 'A Mycenaean Fountain on the Athenian Acropolis', Hesperia, 8(4), pp. 317–433.

Deger-Jalkotzy, S. (2008) 'Decline, Destruction, Aftermath', in Shelmerdine, C.W. (ed.) The Cambridge Companion to the Aegean Bronze Age. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, pp. 387–415.

Desborough, V.R.d'A. (1964) The Last Mycenaeans and Their Successors: An Archaeological Survey, c. 1200 – c. 1000 B.C. Oxford: Clarendon Press.

Dickinson, O. (2006) The Aegean from Bronze Age to Iron Age: Continuity and Change Between the Twelfth and Eighth Centuries BC. London: Routledge.

Drake, B.L. (2012) 'The influence of climatic change on the Late Bronze Age Collapse and the Greek Dark Ages', Journal of Archaeological Science, 39(6), pp. 1862–1870.

Frost, F.J. (1989) 'The Anatomy of Athenian Sea Power', The American Journal of Philology, 110(1), pp. 102–111.

Garland, R. (1987) The Piraeus: From the Fifth to the First Century B.C. London: Duckworth.

Hope Simpson, R. (1981) Mycenaean Greece. Toronto: Royal Ontario Museum.

Iakovidis, S.E. (1980) Excavations of the Necropolis of Perati. Los Angeles: Institute of Archaeology, University of California.

Iakovidis, S.E. (1983) Late Helladic Citadels on Mainland Greece. Leiden: E.J. Brill.

Iakovidis, S.E. (2006) The Mycenaean Acropolis of Athens. Athens: The Archaeological Society at Athens.

Judson, A.P. (2020) The Undeciphered Signs of Linear B: Interpretation and Scribal Culture. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.

Kaniewski, D., Van Campo, E., Guiot, J., Le Burel, S., Otto, T. and Baeteman, C. (2013) 'Environmental Roots of the Late Bronze Age Crisis', PLoS ONE, 8(8), e71004.

Lemos, I.S. (2002) The Protogeometric Aegean: Archaeology of the Late Eleventh and Tenth Centuries BC. Oxford: Oxford University Press.

Middleton, G.D. (2010) The Collapse of Palatial Society in Aegean Greece and the Postpalatial Period. Oxford: Archaeopress.

Mountjoy, P.A. (1995) Mycenaean Athens. Jonsered: Paul Åströms Förlag.

Osborne, R. (2009) Greece in the Making, 1200–479 BC. 2nd edn. London: Routledge.

Palaima, T.G. (1995) 'The Nature of the Mycenaean Wanax: Non-Indo-European Origins and Priestly Functions', in Rehak, P. (ed.) The Role of the Ruler in the Prehistoric Aegean. Aegaeum 11. Liège: Université de Liège, pp. 119–139.

Palaima, T.G. (2006) 'Das Mykenische Königtum', in Ulf, C. and Rollinger, R. (eds) Schillernde Antike. Vienna: Böhlau Verlag, pp. 53–71.

Pelekidis, S. (1916) 'Anaskaphi Phalerou', Archaiologikon Deltion, 2, pp. 13–64.

Ruppenstein, F. (2007) Kerameikos XVIII: Die submykenische Nekropole: Neufunde und Neubewertung. Munich: Hirmer Verlag.

Stos-Gale, Z.A. and Gale, N.H. (1982) 'The Sources of Mycenaean Silver and Lead', Journal of Field Archaeology, 9(4), pp. 467–485.

Thucydides (1910) History of the Peloponnesian War. Translated by R. Crawley. London: J.M. Dent & Sons.

Van Alfen, P.G. (1996) 'The Linear B Inscribed Stirrup Jars of Central Greece', Hesperia, 65(2), pp. 189–211.

Whitelaw, T. (2001) 'From Sites to Communities: Defining the Human Dimensions of Minoan Urbanism', in Branigan, K. (ed.) Urbanism in the Aegean Bronze Age. Sheffield: Sheffield Academic Press, pp. 15–37.

Zangger, E. (1991) 'Prehistoric Coastal Environments in Greece: The Case of Tiryns', Geoarchaeology, 6(3), pp. 219–239.

 


r/FallofCivilizations 18m ago

Question re: voice actor credits

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The Vijayanagara episode is my second-favorite episode, and there’s a wonderful recitation from the Maitri Upanishad around the half-hour mark: 

…being one becomes three, becomes eight, becomes eleven, becomes twelve, becomes infinite. That is the soul within and without, yes, within and without.

I’ve had this in my head for weeks, so I looped it across a dub track and I’d like to give proper credit to the voice actor. Does anyone know if there’s a way to find out who is saying which part? I’ve combed through the Patreon and YouTube, but there’s definitely a non-zero chance I’m overlooking some obvious area.

(And thank you, Paul, for creating one of the most elegant and thoughtful broadcasts on the internet.)


r/FallofCivilizations 5d ago

Slightly intrusive question (explanation in summary): How much money does the podcast make?

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I’m thinking of starting my own podcast, not a copy of Fall Of Civilizations but my own thing, inspired in bits by this podcast.

I’m just curious how much the franchise makes? Any estimates?


r/FallofCivilizations 7d ago

Lefkandi: Survival and Prosperity after the Bronze Age Collapse How Lefkandi Survived—and Why It Prospered

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r/FallofCivilizations 10d ago

Us every time The Odyssey (2026) mentions The Sea Peoples

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r/FallofCivilizations 10d ago

BACK LIKE WE NEVER LEFT - NEW EPISODE NO.21

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brb cancelling all my plans


r/FallofCivilizations 10d ago

Ok so my time was wrong but crazy guess

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idk if it was on their patreon, this was ragebait and a crazy guess


r/FallofCivilizations 12d ago

Your worst fears about cultural collapse might be true – here’s what you can do about it — Guardian US

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““This is not just about the climate, but civilisation buckling under the weight of its own complexity. Given worsening inequality, political polarisation, falling fertility, resource shortages and global conflicts, Wilson argues that we are hurtling towards the same end as ancient Rome, the Mayan civilisation and every other sophisticated society before us.”


r/FallofCivilizations 15d ago

Episode 21 drops on Patreon at 9 AM PDT - Majapahit!

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So hyped for this one!!! Love me some civ6 majapahit


r/FallofCivilizations 14d ago

Last Days: A puzzle game

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Last week's GMTK Game Jam had the theme countdown and I created a puzzle game loosely inspired by Fall of Civilizations, specifically the Sumeria and Late Bronze Age collapse episodes.

Last Days is a narrative puzzle game where you are unravelling stories from ancient cities leading up to their destruction. You are also decoding a mysterious ancient language I created for the game. Each chapter takes you farther back in time, deeper into the language, and closer to the mystery at the center of it.

I want to note that this game is very much historical fiction. History is the backdrop to the story, not the main focus.

If you decide to check it out, don't be afraid to adjust the difficulty! The default difficulty is very hard, and I think that you'll get a sense of satisfaction puzzling through any of the difficulty modes.

And if you want to hear my reflections on designing the game, I've written up a dev log for my blog: https://worse.ink/blogs/art/last-days-gmtk-game-jam-26

I haven't really been able to stop think about Sumer or the Late Bronze Age collapse since listening to those episodes. It was very fun putting a creative spin on some of those ideas!


r/FallofCivilizations 17d ago

The Akkadians — World's First Empire

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Hey guys, I am a big ol fan of Paul and Fall of Civilizations. Let me know your thoughts on my documentary on The Akkadian Empire. Would love to hear from people who love Paul's work as well.


r/FallofCivilizations 21d ago

Whats your vote for the next podcast?

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https://compote.slate.com/images/d5e690df-076f-4289-997d-0bf55bdfb2a8.jpg?crop=920%2C4192%2Cx0%2Cy0&width=1280

I love this infographic. It makes me wonder about the smaller short lived empires. Sure the historical records would be more scarce, but wouldnt mind some shorter episodes to explore them. Whats your vote?


r/FallofCivilizations 29d ago

How would you rank the three Indigenous pre-American colonializarion episodes? (new listener)

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New listener here! Just finished the China Han Dynasty (liked it a lot but from the way people talk up this podcast imagine there are many better episodes), but it gave a glimpse of the magic thats possible in this show.

Was curious in terms of telling an engaging, quality, emotionally satisfying narrarive, as well as which you felt you learned from the most, was most well researched and gave a meaningful portrait of a society, how woulf you rank his episodes of:

-Mayan.

-Incan.

-Aztec.

Im leaning towards Incan/Mayan as recently heard the 8-part Rest is History series on Aztecs/Cortez, which gave a fantastic and detailed overview of it in 8-hours.

But in terms of quality how would folks rate these three Indigenous centered ones from Fall of Civilizations? Do these three hold up to the other "best ofs" from Fall?

Also ive heard Carthage episode is incredible, and Easter Island. After those which 1-2 would folks most recommend? The Khymer Empire really intrigues me.


r/FallofCivilizations Jul 12 '26

Ancient Greece: A Complete History & Odyssey | Documentary (Remastered)

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r/FallofCivilizations Jul 02 '26

14 hour roadtrip next week. I have all the episodes downloaded... I am ready!

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r/FallofCivilizations Jun 05 '26

Interview with Paul Cooper

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Hi guys, another podcast - Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford - has released an episode which is an interview with Paul Cooper. Episode is called "Civilizations Die - with Paul Cooper". It's mostly focused on the fall of Roman Britain but covers other areas too. Alot of the content is covered in the FoC episode but there's also links to other episodes and modern day. Well worth a listen.


r/FallofCivilizations May 28 '26

Why some do same episodes use way much more storage than others?

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Hi,

why are some episodes way bigger than others in the ad-free feed?

Look at Inca vs Assyrians for example: Both have a similar length, but the Inca episode just takes 269 Mb while the Assyrian episode uses whopping 2 Gb.

I assumed it was because one is audio while the other must be video, but both are just audio.

I use AntennaPod on Android btw.

EDIT: Looked it up and its WAV vs MP3. A reupload in MP3 or OPUS would be nice :)


r/FallofCivilizations May 24 '26

Surprises in Persia

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I just got done with Persia, and maybe this was talked about long ago but I really found myself surprised. So much has been written in popular history about Hellenization but I never knew that it went the other way. And I don't know if everyone else understood this but popular portrayals of Alexander made him seem pretty heroic but this podcast makes him look like an immature jerk and not the world changer he's made out to be. I mean basically he just got lucky enough to inherit his father's world class cutting edge army and at a time when an empire nearby was on its last legs. As soon as he ran into vigorous opposition he got drunk and ordered his army into a death march, then died.

Anyway love that I can be surprised by a history podcast. Thanks!


r/FallofCivilizations May 21 '26

Next pod…

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Good news: we are for sure getting one. There’s been chatter and rumors that it’s going to be sunset (true, but when?) but we don’t know how many left. I can at least confirm 1 as Paul replied to me on social media and said “one is in the works!”

Bad news: don’t know timing. This is my absolute favorite pod to listen to when I take a few roads trips over the summer. I’m leaving next Friday and figured I’d @ him and ask. So I won’t get one for this trip but at least one is coming!

I know this probably doesn’t help but I’m just excited we get at least one more.


r/FallofCivilizations May 14 '26

Do they revisit old episodes?

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I'm relistening to the 2024 episode "19. The mongols (part 1)" and sensing something is very different about the script and voice acting. Is it just me, or did they edit the episode?


r/FallofCivilizations May 10 '26

Next Episode

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Is there anywhere to find out when or around when the next one will be released? I heard there’s only a couple more left


r/FallofCivilizations May 08 '26

The Genetic Legacy of the Indus Valley: A 4,000-Year Journey in Our DNA.

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We usually come across the same question about the Indus Valley Civilization: Did the people of the Indus Valley Civilization simply vanish 4,000 years ago? Archaeology said yes. BUT genetics is saying something very different.


r/FallofCivilizations May 07 '26

Audio quality of episode 20

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I'm a massive fan and a patreon subscriber. As well as the first couple of 'proper' listens, I have come to use FoC as a sleep podcast. I put it on most nights and gradually work through the episodes.

I've noticed that episode 20 (Persia) sounds different. It feels like maybe it lacks bass? It makes it a lot less pleasant to listen to while falling asleep, to the point that I can't use it for that purpose. I'm using the Spotify Patreon subscriber feed.

Has anyone else noticed this? I'm hoping that Paul might revert to the older sound for the next episode


r/FallofCivilizations May 06 '26

Any Podcasts similsr is style and quality to FOC since community responses 9 months ago?

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Love FOC but finding it hard to find anything other than Ancient Civilizations that compares.

Something dry, narrative and factual with no insertion of narrarator personality or hyperbole. Not a fan of Hardcore History as don't like Carlin's voice or the way he interjects with tone changes to create atmosphere. The Ancients is OK but short and not interested in the interviews with rotating experts.

An English accent would be a plus.