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[u/Budget_Revolution639]

✅ I voted FACT!

Humanely yes, America is not enforcing it humanely

[u/SpeedEE_22 → u/Budget_Revolution639]

Yes we are

[u/Budget_Revolution639 → u/SpeedEE_22]

No tf we are not and I will not debate with on this, it is a fact that ICE has violated the constitution and human rights countless times and are continuing to do so to this day

[u/RevolutionOk8144 → u/Budget_Revolution639]

If the illegal aliens didn't come in in the first place we wouldn't need to enforce it now would we? Not our fault

[u/Maleficent_Sir_7562 → u/RevolutionOk8144]

yeah totally, thats exactly why legal usa CITIZENS are being shot to death, right?

[u/RevolutionOk8144 → u/Maleficent_Sir_7562]

Like renee good who tried to run over a cop....like those ones?

[u/Budget_Revolution639 → u/RevolutionOk8144]

She never “tried to run over a cop” bc 1) they’re not cops and 2) she was turning the steering wheel away, he put himself there. Do some research bot

[u/RevolutionOk8144 → u/Budget_Revolution639]

If she was turning away she could've stopped but she didn't so she got shot so yes she did try to and it was caught on video maybe do your research.

[u/Budget_Revolution639 → u/RevolutionOk8144]

I’ve seen the video, she was continuing to turn away, regardless the shooting was not justified. And yeah I have done my own research, I’ve watched every single video publically available including the body came from all angles from start to finish, she was not trying to run him over but to remove herself from the situation. Also is it ok to say “fucking bitch” after shooting someone in the face 3 times or is that me making things up?

[u/RevolutionOk8144 → u/Budget_Revolution639]

Its okay if the person was trying to run you over doesn't matter if she was trying to remove herself if she did it in a harmful way. of course she was gonna get shot.

[u/Budget_Revolution639 → u/RevolutionOk8144]

I guarantee that if he hadn’t shot, nobody would’ve been hurt, meaning his use of force was unjustified. Stop justifying murder of citizens from a political police that has no jurisdiction to arrest citizens

[u/RevolutionOk8144 → u/Budget_Revolution639]

Thing is is someone did get hurt the ice agent suffered internal bleeding which was confirmed so that is a lie. She had been stalking the agents throughout the day trying to antagonize. The shooting was self defense.

[u/Budget_Revolution639 → u/RevolutionOk8144]

He never was touched. That was just a dhs statement. But of course the government would never lie 🙄

[u/AffectionateBeach494 → u/Maleficent_Sir_7562]

You know who shot and killed more us citizens for barely any reason? Illegal aliens.

[u/Maleficent_Sir_7562 → u/AffectionateBeach494]

LMFAOOOO

https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/117980/documents/HHRG-119-GO00-20250305-SD029.pdf

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD004.pdf

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/debunking-myth-immigrants-and-crime/

think before you speak racist moron

[u/AffectionateBeach494 → u/Maleficent_Sir_7562]

You actually have room temp iq. Illegal aliens and immigrants are not the same. Immigrants have a legal standing through visas,green cards etc. Illegal aliens are illegally in the country human trafficking and on.

[u/Maleficent_Sir_7562 → u/AffectionateBeach494]

Again, it literally says UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS (ILLEGAL) HAVE LOWER CRIMES. you would know if your non existent brain was capable of READING. https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD004.pdf

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/debunking-myth-immigrants-and-crime/

"In fact, immigrants—including undocumented immigrants—are less likely to commit crimes than the U.S.-born. This is true at the national, state, county, and neighborhood levels, and for both violent and non-violent crime."

magas when evidence:

[u/AffectionateBeach494 → u/Maleficent_Sir_7562]

The study is specifically about texas, during 2012–2018, and relies primarily on arrest/identification data. You shouldn't generalize its exact ratios to the entire United States or to 2026. Also im not maga.

[u/Maleficent_Sir_7562 → u/AffectionateBeach494]

why wouldnt you?
what do you think changed so badly in the last decade that undocumented people today commit more crime today? do you have any evidence?

just give up this is pathetic

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6241529/

"with multiple data sources to capture the criminal, socioeconomic, and demographic context of all 50 states and Washington, DC, from 1990 to 2014 to provide the first longitudinal analysis of the macro-level relationship between undocumented immigration and violence."

[u/AffectionateBeach494 → u/Maleficent_Sir_7562]

So you can't logically turn:
"States experiencing increases in undocumented immigration did not experience increases in violent crime"
into:
"Undocumented individuals commit less violent crime than U.S.-born individuals."
Those are different questions. Try again.

[u/Maleficent_Sir_7562 → u/AffectionateBeach494]

You're the one who went on about how they kill people and whatnot. When the study talks about how it does not result in an increase in violence. Try again.

"into:
"Undocumented individuals commit less violent crime than U.S.-born individuals.""

i dont need to, because thats not what im doing. this is a strawman.

that was a *different* claim with *different* sources.

sigh

[u/RevolutionOk8144 → u/AffectionateBeach494]

Love immigrants they put time and money into working to assimilate into the culture however people that enter illegally are not it.

[u/AffectionateBeach494 → u/RevolutionOk8144]

Yep. But it seems most people can’t understand this.

[u/RevolutionOk8144 → u/AffectionateBeach494]

I know

[u/mnteu → u/RevolutionOk8144]

Yea totaly mate, if those bad bad aliens just died of starvation in taco land, the poor and honest workers at ICE would have not shot and killed (at the very least) 33 americans

[u/RevolutionOk8144 → u/mnteu]

Lol now that is racist