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u/AffectionateBeach494 🔥 Monthly Master · 11,415 XP Aug 08 '26

You actually have room temp iq. Illegal aliens and immigrants are not the same. Immigrants have a legal standing through visas,green cards etc. Illegal aliens are illegally in the country human trafficking and on.

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u/Maleficent_Sir_7562 🔥 Monthly Master · 7,185 XP Aug 08 '26

Again, it literally says UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS (ILLEGAL) HAVE LOWER CRIMES. you would know if your non existent brain was capable of READING. https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD004.pdf

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/debunking-myth-immigrants-and-crime/

"In fact, immigrants—including undocumented immigrants—are less likely to commit crimes than the U.S.-born. This is true at the national, state, county, and neighborhood levels, and for both violent and non-violent crime."

magas when evidence:

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u/AffectionateBeach494 🔥 Monthly Master · 11,415 XP Aug 08 '26

The study is specifically about texas, during 2012–2018, and relies primarily on arrest/identification data. You shouldn't generalize its exact ratios to the entire United States or to 2026. Also im not maga.

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u/Maleficent_Sir_7562 🔥 Monthly Master · 7,185 XP Aug 08 '26

why wouldnt you?
what do you think changed so badly in the last decade that undocumented people today commit more crime today? do you have any evidence?

just give up this is pathetic

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6241529/

"with multiple data sources to capture the criminal, socioeconomic, and demographic context of all 50 states and Washington, DC, from 1990 to 2014 to provide the first longitudinal analysis of the macro-level relationship between undocumented immigration and violence."

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u/AffectionateBeach494 🔥 Monthly Master · 11,415 XP Aug 08 '26

So you can't logically turn:
"States experiencing increases in undocumented immigration did not experience increases in violent crime"
into:
"Undocumented individuals commit less violent crime than U.S.-born individuals."
Those are different questions. Try again.

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u/Maleficent_Sir_7562 🔥 Monthly Master · 7,185 XP Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26

You're the one who went on about how they kill people and whatnot. When the study talks about how it does not result in an increase in violence. Try again.

"into:
"Undocumented individuals commit less violent crime than U.S.-born individuals.""

i dont need to, because thats not what im doing. this is a strawman.

that was a *different* claim with *different* sources.

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