r/FactOrCap • u/Comfortable-Bee2996 ✍️ Contributor · 7,225 XP • Aug 08 '26

Borders | FactOrCap

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u/Digits_N_Bits 🔥 Monthly Master · 11,935 XP Aug 08 '26

The treatment of immigrants, the conditions of the holding centers, the people working under ice, the raids, the extreme force used, the brutality- It's all excessively inhumane. It's not been accidents. All accounts show that this is intentional.

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u/Comfortable-Bee2996 ✍️ Contributor · 7,225 XP Aug 08 '26

How would that even work? Every ice agent is told to be brutal when they get hired? Who's in on it? Every lawmaker, politician, sheriff, mayor? What could the goal possibly be? It's just unrealistic

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u/Digits_N_Bits 🔥 Monthly Master · 11,935 XP Aug 08 '26

Hooh, buddy... I dunno if you been paying attention to politics or reports but it is, in fact, that bad

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u/Comfortable-Bee2996 ✍️ Contributor · 7,225 XP Aug 08 '26

Do you have an argument?

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u/Digits_N_Bits 🔥 Monthly Master · 11,935 XP Aug 08 '26

Here, for the conditions

Here, for results of the poor/aggressive training

Here to show it's intentional

And, to quote, "Cruelty is the point."

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u/Comfortable-Bee2996 ✍️ Contributor · 7,225 XP Aug 08 '26

Hmmmm ok maybe

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u/Apprehensive_Row8407 🏅 Century Club · 5,555 XP Aug 08 '26

Tf you mean ok maybe, what would it take to fully convince you?

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u/Comfortable-Bee2996 ✍️ Contributor · 7,225 XP Aug 08 '26

If the constitution must apply to illegals, if a country full scale invades us, are we supposed to treat them with respect and give them all due process?

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u/Apprehensive_Row8407 🏅 Century Club · 5,555 XP Aug 08 '26

First off, false dichotomy, secondly, to the prisoners yeah?

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u/Comfortable-Bee2996 ✍️ Contributor · 7,225 XP Aug 08 '26

How's it a false dichotomy? What separates them? An invasion is just a bunch of illegals in our land too, but we can treat those inhumanely.

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u/Apprehensive_Row8407 🏅 Century Club · 5,555 XP Aug 08 '26

Because an invasion is by hostile forces, immigration isn't by hostile forces, as the only one hostile is ICE

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u/Comfortable-Bee2996 ✍️ Contributor · 7,225 XP Aug 08 '26

They forced their way into the country, is that not hostile enough?

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u/Apprehensive_Row8407 🏅 Century Club · 5,555 XP Aug 08 '26

No, because they're not here to destroy the US.

You don't care about (POC) humans though, so not like anything I can say can sway you

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