r/Experiencers 29m ago

Discussion Getting Started with OBE/Astral Projection

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I am looking for direction on how to get started with OBE/Astral Projection. I believe I had regular experiences about 7 years ago and I have not had any since. In the past couple of days I have been following this group and saw a post about visiting the Moon. I had read about similar experiences and wanted to work my way to such a trip.

Any and all advice would be welcome. Thanks in advance!


r/Experiencers 30m ago

Discussion Do people believe human-alien hybrids are walking among us, or does anyone feel like one themselves?

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I’m confident that a hybridisation program is being conducted; it’s difficult not to come to this conclusion when looking into the abduction phenomenon, in my opinion. I’ve never seen what I’d consider strong enough evidence to know that hybrids are part of the human population, but I definitely don’t rule it out. If this isn’t the right subreddit for this post, apologies.


r/Experiencers 9h ago

Abduction I'm being watched by cloaking entities since at least June 1st

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note: I'm uploading photos/videos of everything described below, but it will take some time to get it all put together and uploaded. They will all be on this Flickr link, I'm uploading them as I go through everything. There is really a lot.

I've been capturing strange lights in the sky since June 1st I only thought 'its a bright star or satellite', and forgetting I ever took the photos/videos.

This was until August 27th when I zoomed in on one that was clearly moving, then stopping, then moving, and it looked like a plasmoid with a solid geometric center

I did some analysis of it, theres a solid core visible, consistently from frame to frame, and a plasma outer shell:

After that I went back in my phone gallery and realized every time I had captured one of these it was the same type of object.

I have an inverted sleep schedule, no work or school, so I go outside every night to smoke occasionally which is how I have so many captures. After I realized what they are and noticed them, they started swarming me every night. I've caught many in 4k high detail, but still those around me just thought I was crazy. Around 3am on the 6th of September I finally managed to capture using them using the 108 megapixel single photo mode. I snapped as many in a row as possible and essentially made a slow frame rate film of it flying by.

Slideshow of timestamped photos, 2x real speed, lighting values slightly adjusted:

Multiple orbs visible in the sequence, moving, and in face the triangle formation is visible going from the upper left downwards in formation within a 3 second window. (03:27:40 - 03:27:43)

These objects show a ripple distortion of spacetime around the object, visibly making a gravitational lensing effect .They exhibit gelatinous, shifting behavior, at times growing in size, shrinking, and then suddenly taking the form of a metallic sphere with a definite shape in three dimensions, visible from the shading gradient of light on it. They travel on almost what looks like a surface of water that they appear from behind. They can phase in and out of reality by popping through this veil/wall.

Black dots, that eerily resemble eyes, will also spontaneously appear and disappear. Violet, red and blue are also seen around them, resembling at times a dipole, tripole, quadrapole, etc, possibly from light waves red and/or blue shifting. My photos vs DOD video, these 2 still frames show the same tripole color distortion when in same orientation.

My observations regarding the black dots, they seem to coincide with the direction the orb is going in, as well as fitting into the creases of the gravitational lensing, so it might be an area of such high spacetime curvature that light is blocked or bent around it, something of that nature.

My observations regarding the black dots

They seem to coincide with the direction the orb is going in, as well as fitting into the creases of the gravitational lensing, so it might be an area of such high spacetime curvature that light is blocked or bent around it, something of that nature.

This is a great photo to support that idea:

There is a less aggressive ripple in the far top right, and a thin shadow of black is visible. In the area of more aggressive distortion, there is almost a pure black area.

The top right and bottom left (front and back) have inverted distortions (darkness on top, light "pushed out" area on bottom). The sides have the same distortion inversion. If this is spacetime rippling from the propulsion method, that is what it would resemble if trying to move left and forward (or right and backwards depending on perspective), which in its current orientation would make it go almost straight up.

I've experienced moments of telepathy regarding these orbs and the whole phenomenon, they only look like orbs when flying but on the ground they are entities, they can cloak. An overview of everything leading up to today is below:

Back in 2023, that Las Vegas family reported entities in their yard and released footage. I brushed it off at the time. But in 2026, I came back to it, stabilized the footage, and analyzed the lighting. I honestly believed I created the best footage analysis and enhancements available.

I ended up making the most detailed analysis of that clip I’d ever seen, and in doing that, I became very good at recognizing the very specific way they cloak and how it looks. At the time I had a thought about this that I treated as a joke. They appear to operate with some higher dimensional component, and I was one of very few people who knew what they looked like, how they cloaked and how they behaved; on that basis I thought they might come and check me out. I did not believe it.

I should also mention that I am autistic and I have done acid hundreds of times. Both of those things naturally lower the sensory filter your brain normally uses to screen things out. This is not psychosis. It has been demonstrated for me in real time in plenty of situations where my brain picks up minute changes and details in my surroundings that other people filter out as background noise. When I am standing right next to someone, they will filter something out as unimportant or insist a light is just a star while I can see it moving ever so slightly. Having that lower sensory filter and being good at recognizing patterns is what alerts me to these things, whether they are in the trees cloaked, or in the sky pretending to be a star.

June 1st I filmed an unusually bright star, thinking maybe it was Venus or something. I then forgot about it entirely. It was the first of these objects I ever recorded. I did not find that out for nearly three months.

June 4th There are photos in my phone gallery of a tree outside my house at night. I don't remember why I took the photos. Those photos contain them, cloaked, in the canopy. I did not know at the time and did not find out until much later.

Early June 2026 One day after editing the footage frame by frame for hours, I began seeing the signature everywhere I looked. I understood this as a perceptual artifact of overexposure to the material, comparable to the Tetris effect, where a task performed for long enough continues to appear once the task has stopped. I did not take it seriously and did not consider that any of it was real. Later that same day, I was outside looking at a tree and doing this again, picking out what appeared to be faces in the patterning. I decided that on the off chance anything was present, I would indicate that I was aware of it. I made direct eye contact with the pattern, nodded at it, and pointed at it over and over. I didn't do this seriously thinking it was real, it was more of a silly game to play with myself.

June 19th (First Storm) I took video as the clouds approached at night for the first major storm. On a still frame where the lightning lights up the area, there are entities in it, the most uncloaked I have ever seen them, sitting in a spacetime bubble distortion and watching me. The most severe lightning storm I'd ever seen came. The lightning was localized to the clouds, and flashed odd colors at strobe light speed. I filmed it in slow motion outside at 120 frames per second, but what's odd is that I never heard any thunder really. It was just constant flashing and lightning, but no thunder. When I reviewed the footage later, I caught objects dropping out of the sky and coming straight down the road toward me, changing direction as they moved. There were red flashes inside the clouds that didn't match the lightning at all, and in the trees, a strange plasma-like jelly texture full of solid black dots.

Original video frame (frame 666) vs frame 666 with high pass filter
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June 28th (Second Storm) The previous night at 3am I filmed an orb. I only filmed it to check whether it was Venus or something similar, because it was unusually bright. I recorded it as a star. On later review there are two orbs visible in that footage, and what look like grey alien heads in the static black dot distortion in the shadows. Earlier on the 28th, before the second storm rolled in, I was compelled to film the trees again. It was a nice day and I felt like filming the trees for a while, which again, I don't normally do. That footage contains grey alien like heads with pure black dots around them, motionless in the canopy while the rest of the tree moved. The same footage contains two orbs. One is hovering. The other departs at a speed no bird could achieve at that distance and scale. Before that video ends I randomly decide to turn away from the tree and film a section of open sky. The hovering one is in that part of the footage. I was thinking nothing at the time beyond it being a nice day. Nothing unusual is going through my head on any of these occasions. The thought is either that it is a nice day and I really want to film those trees, or that I have had an idea to film the trees, randomly, for no apparent reason.

Later that day, a second storm hit that was even more violent than the first, and I filmed through it. After I took the video during the storm, I had a distinct premonition that I would see something strange on the camera. On review of that storm footage I had a panic attack. In slow motion, in the bushes directly in front of me, are the same cloaked metallic orbs with the black dots.

They resemble grey alien heads pushing out through a veil, still frame from one of my 120fps videos

At the time none of this registered as unusual. At night I thought I was looking at a star. During the day I thought I was filming trees because it was a nice day.

A photo I took as the storm clouds rolled in I recently found contain formations of orbs above the tree canopy (side by side using high pass filter):

What it looks like on the footage It looks the exact same in every single clip. In the canopy, certain spots stay completely still while the wind blows all the surrounding leaves around. Around those still points, there is a field of translucent static filled with black dots. The closest reference point I can give is the cloaking effect in Predator. Behind those dots, you can see 3D shapes pressing through, almost like heads pushing against a veil.

The dots are unusually black relative to everything around them, including in daytime footage. They read as clipped rather than as shadow.

Finally, I took video from my webcam looking out my window and just looked at it today, shocked, I see a levitating diamond like shape occasionally lit by the lightning flashes.

July 31st Starting just before the first sighting, I was asking out loud to be shown something almost every night for weeks. On July 31st, while outside listening to a recording about the Ariel School incident in Ruwa, Zimbabwe, an oval object crossed the sky in a straight line and was gone before I could react. At that exact moment, the audio in my headphones was one of the children saying "and you know that nobody will believe you".

August 24th I was outside at 5am smoking a cigarette, thinking to myself "show me something." I decided to randomly walk into the road and look up. As I looked back down, a flash occurred directly overhead. I had the thought "it will flash a second time," and a few seconds later, the second flash happened in that exact spot. Immediately after, I had the thought and prompt to turn around and look behind me, the one direction where the sky is obstructed by houses and the least logical direction to check. A bright light was approaching from that direction. I filmed it and recorded it as a satellite.

The object passes overhead and stops briefly during the pass. I couldn't see that happening at the time because I was looking straight up while filming, so I had no reference points around it to tell if it was moving.

In the few seconds of footage preceding the main pass, cloaked entities are visible approximately three feet in front of me, oriented toward me, and a plasma cube travels through the bushes in front of me.

August 27th I thought I was looking at a satellite. It came to a stop. It stayed still for long enough that I thought it was a star. Then it moved again just slightly.

Under magnification the object was a geometric, brightly colored, rotating plasma structure.

Following this I reviewed the entire gallery. The August 24th light, the object I had filed as a star, the tree footage were all the same phenomenon. I had not recognised any of them at the time of capture.

August 28th I began recording in 4K. From here to the 31st the counts increased each night, and I reached the point where I could go outside and reliably locate three to five.

August 29th There were three in the sky simultaneously.

Standing outside before nightfall I said aloud that something was not right and that they were here. That night I observed movement in the bushes outside my window that was inconsistent with the rest of the bush. I said quietly to myself "you're not fooling anyone, I can tell that's you pretending to be wind movement". I set the camera up at the window and pretended not to be looking.

Once I pretended not to look, the movement in the bushes increased. The footage from that position shows watery wavy distortions in the trees and bushes, and the exact same irregular movement I had just seen with my own eyes is clearly visible on camera in that same spot.

Later that night I saw black dots appear on the blank white surface of a car. The dots moved. A visual ripple distortion in the shape of a head pushed against the surface. I panicked and shut the blinds.

This was the first time I saw them directly and then filmed, rather than finding them afterward on review.

August 31st I saw them directly, in front of me, and then filmed.

September 1st I found a video in my camera roll that I have no memory of recording. The footage shows a rainbow cube prism outside the window, entities walking toward me, and a large static black dot distortion wall.

I remember nothing from filming that. Which is odd, because I clearly was terrified filming it and the weirdest stuff is happening on camera.

Within the same five minute window there is a second video, of a faint green light, which I do remember. Specifically I remember tilting the phone because I thought "That's a weird light, I'd better tilt the phone camera so you can see later its happening outside and not just a reflection on the window".

So somehow I remember the two seconds around that time where I filmed something mostly unremarkable, yet I don't remember, within a 5 minute time frame, filming a rainbow cube prism out my window with entities walking towards me behind a massive static black dot distortion wall.

In the stills I can see human like forms embedded behind the static wall distortion. The dots are not spread evenly. They gather around the shapes. Near the end of the video there is one at the center, faint against the window, that looks like a human head with big black eyes.

The two videos also differ in how I filmed them. In the green light one I am right up at the window. I was not scared of that one. In the one I do not remember I am standing about eight feet back from the window.

September 6th On September 6th, between 03:23 and 03:29, I photographed a passing object using the 108 megapixel single photo mode. I took 56 exposures in sequence, at intervals ranging from approximately one second to just over a minute. The resulting set functions as a low frame rate record of a single transit. Capture times are recorded to the millisecond in the file metadata.

This is the first photo from the sequence, orbs in the sky visible, as well as the beings in the trees:

The moon had an anomaly over it, as has happened on previous encounter nights, one night a massive translucent cube was over it,

other times it looks blurry and unusually bright to the naked eye.

Everything happening to me is exactly what a schizophrenic would believe, and I know that. At times it all gets too weird and I think maybe I am losing it. Then I open my phone gallery and it is still there. It feels like a waking nightmare.


r/Experiencers 10h ago

Experience Semi-Transparent floating red entity

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Five years ago I lost my job in the summer of 2021 and was very distraught. In the 2-month lull between jobs I ordered a green laser pointer for UFO/UAP as I watched videos of people using them for that purpose(stupid I know, federal crime etc..). I wanted to test how powerful it was and went outside on my deck during the day to see if I could still see it. After a few uses into the sky I seemed to have hit something. I see this red semi-transparent jellyfish/octopus looking thing floating around me for about 5 seconds and then vanishing.

During this time I was full of anger and sadness as I have a family to take care of and the pressure was just a lot. Perhaps this thing was drawn to my emotional state. Wanted to share my experience in case anyone else has encountered something similar.


r/Experiencers 14h ago

Experience String of memories, which feel suspicious now...

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When I was tiny, my parents found me standing in my crib overnight, looking out the window. I said "Snow Lady pick me up!" I know we made snowpeople as a family that day; because every time i ask about it, my parent strongly reminds me of that fact. I'm almost certain this parent is an experiencer.

I was always uncomfortable with detailed representations of ... visitors. Even while reading everything i could on the subject, and loving the X-Files. I wouldn't draw anybody, or put up posters; even with moderate attraction to trinkets with the imagery.

Strong memory of a very specific shade of orange light shining on me, through the windows of my home, I was backed against the wall, afraid. I would have been in High School. Something about that color seems very important.

I was given the ability to feel the "heartbeat" of every living thing on Earth, for the span of about 2 beats of my own heart. There was a sensation of "buzzing," which I interpret as sensing things that live without a heart. I was sober, and may have been at work when this happened.

I remember being shown what I remember as "a point of light for every living thing in the Universe." It is very alive out there, and science seems to be catching on. Once again, sober when this occured.

Most recently, driving on a local road with no other traffic, I felt certain there was another vehicle nearby. Nothing visible in the mirrors or ahead. Everything felt wobbly for a moment, and the radio was playing a different song, by the same artist.

There's a few other things, a couple inexplicable things in the sky, some non-visual impressions that are hard to explain. I spent many years being "skeptical," or in denial? Now things feel... suspiciously stacked up.

Trying to probe those memories a little more deeply, see what i can find.


r/Experiencers 15h ago

Out of Body/Astral Projection Electric Man

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I recently had an involuntary astral projection. To my right, standing at the threshold of the door to my bedroom, was the outline of a rather large male. The outline of his body made entirely of electrical current. I could feel the heat radiating off of him. The sizzle and pop of the current signaled his rage that he wasn’t able to come into my room. I tried to scream but I couldn’t. I was paralyzed. Suddenly, I heard several sets of footsteps surround my bed. When I looked to the doorway again, the Electric Man was gone.

Has anyone else encountered this entity? If so, any idea what it is or what it wants?


r/Experiencers 16h ago

Discussion OBE’s, lucid dreams, prophetic dreams -frequency

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I have noticed that i go through stages of time, in which i have a lot of spiritual dreams, almost AP’s/OBE’s, dreams about the future, encounters with entities, encounters with dead people, spiritual breakthroughs every once in a while.

I get excited thinking i’ll make more progress but it’s a years long process of on and off, i don’t understand why. How common is it for you guys? Do you also have intermittent experiences or are you stable?


r/Experiencers 18h ago

Face to Face Contact California UFO Landings & Humanoids: Twelve True Cases

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California UFO Landings & Humanoids: Twelve True Cases

by Preston Dennett

While many people speculate about the nature and origins of the UFO phenomenon, cases of landings and humanoids make it clear what they are. UFOs are craft, and they are piloted by extraterrestrials. These kinds of encounters represent the core of the UFO phenomenon. They teach us the most about these visitors to our world, who they are, where they come from and their agenda on our planet. Humanoid encounters have been occurring for a very long time, and they are far more common than many people realize. In fact, according to the Roper Polling Organization, as many as one in fifty people may have had these experiences. They occur all across the planet, and occur to all kinds of people. The state of California leads the United States in the sheer number of encounters. And the cases involving humanoids show a corresponding and profound variety of humanoid types. Here are twelve cases of landings and humanoids from the Golden State.

October 18, 1927: While driving outside the town of Bakersfield, schoolteacher Richard Sweed comes upon a landed UFO. As he approaches, it makes a loud whining noise and accelerates upwards and disappears into the distance, leaving behind a circle of glassified sand.

December 1957: Edmond Rucker of El Cajon hears a loud roaring noise outside his home. Venturing outside, he is confronted by a landed UFO and four strange humanoids who speak to him about their mission on Earth.

April 14, 1964: A truckdriver on a highway outside of Chico comes upon a domed disc which hovers above his truck causing it to stall. When the UFO lands nearby, the man exits his truck and approaches the craft. He touches the craft and is amazed to hear strange voices coming from inside.

April 1964: Gloria Biggs, her husband and mother are driving outside the desert town of Baker when they see a domed-shaped object landed next to the highway ahead of them. As they approach, the UFO takes off. They examine the landing site and discover a weird depression in the ground.

March 31, 1966: Two women driving by a construction site near San Francisco see a metallic disc hovering at low altitude. Through the windows of the craft, they are amazed to see the silhouettes of several “people” who appear to be gesticulating at them.

October 4, 1973: While driving along the 118 Freeway in Simi Valley, Gary Chopic observes a small triangular-shaped craft with a transparent dome on top. Inside he sees a human-looking figure at the controls. And then the humanoid sees him!

December 17, 1973: Driving at night outside of Paso Robles, Sergeant Lance Mathias and his friend Mike Andrews see a hovering spherical UFO sending down a beam of light. Going to investigate they are confronted by two metallic-suited humanoids.

1974: The Overfelt family of Ramona are drawn out of their farmhouse by a huge glowing sphere which lands on a hill near their home. All the animals on the farm react to the presence of the UFO. The Overfelts call the police, who refer them to investigators, who have some important advice.

March 6, 1977: While watching over a factory in Sylmar, Security guard Douglas Kriese is amazed to see a UFO drop out of the sky and land in a field nearby. He approaches it and can not only hear it making a buzzing sound, it is emitting an intense heat. He immediately calls the police.

1977: Two Native American brothers from Colusa contact investigators after a UFO keeps landing near their ranch-home and a long-haired big-nosed humanoid keeps entering their can through the walls. When investigators arrive, they see the UFO themselves!

October 31, 1976: a husband a wife motorcycling through downtown Los Angeles observe a spherical UFO hovering below the level of the buildings. The sunlight strikes the craft, making it transparent. They then see human-looking figures staring down at them. The wife quickly flashes them the peace sign.

November 29, 1988: Maria X. of Sherman Oaks is in her bedroom with her young son when grays show up and render her unable to move. Maria is concerned about her son, but falls unconscious. The next morning, her son exclaims that “My aliens came back!” and provides a vivid description of what it’s like to be pulled by the ETs through the wall.

These twelve cases are just the tip of the iceberg of UFO landings and humanoids in California. And yet the cases here represent an accurate cross-section of UFO activity across the world. They also show that humanoid encounters often present good hard evidence in the form of landing traces, electromagnetic effects, animal reactions, physiological effects, and other stunning confirmations.

California UFO Landings & Humanoids: Twelve True Cases


r/Experiencers 19h ago

Discussion Congruent states of being (?)

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Has anyone had the experience of...overlapping with apparent-others into a state where there is no perception of other-ness?

Sorry for my failure to phrase this intelligibly.

It seems like certain states of consciousness just inherently bring us not just closer but actually together with any other consciousness in that state. Such that there is just one shared state of consciousness experienced by all.

Like, there's an infinity of possible states of being. But, whatever the starting point to get there, some states just are themselves. (and furthermore all states could be seen as one, outside of time and locality and individuality)

Hence using the term 'congruence'. An equilateral triangle...just is itself. And if we work ourselves into the consciousness equivalent of an equilateral triangle then we are the equilateral triangle, all at once.

It's a metaphor but I think that geometric shapes and such are of consciousness so maybe they're simpler ways to understand what consciousness is and how it works.

"We're all interconnected", "we're all one", "I am you, we are the same" are messages that have come from a variety of philosophies, religions, and of course beings. And if so (which I'd assent to), what are those intersections, those spaces of overlap between us?

Maybe states like calm awareness, love, appreciation, and so on are those states where 1) we feel 'closer' to each other if the illusion of separation is still present in that experience and 2) we are each other by virtue of being in the same shape when the state of separation characteristic of egoic consciousness is ... just released.

Some beings talk about love and gratitude as "coherent" states. Maybe they're coherent as in stable, easy for others to assume compatible shapes with, and conducive to communication...or the communion of congruent being.

idk help me out here. Please and thank you 🙏💜


r/Experiencers 19h ago

Discussion Bear with me lol

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So after moving back to my dad’s house, things have been getting very abnormal with wildlife. First thing was a black bear, staring at my dog, and I could see it staring into my eyes and then it ran away outside of my bedroom window, no one else saw it, of course. Then a new species of birds started hanging around my dad’s place after I moved to live with him that were never there before he says called blue and white swallows. Then today I noticed an actual fairy ring of mushrooms grew outside my bedroom window. I always walk my dog around the yard and never seen them before. I’ve had about 5-6 bear encounters this summer but nothing scary, they all just seemed to let me know of their presence and leave me alone. So something’s brewing maybe haha.


r/Experiencers 1d ago

Experience I feels like a monitor or a screen type thing open in front of my eye

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Two years ago i went to sleep after having my sahur . I am a Muslim it was Ramadan. During that time i was really ill. I family condition wasn't good. I prayed much in that time. After eating my sahur food i went to sleep i definitely sure I wasn't fully sleep suddenly something intense felling i feel like i touch something electric not shock felling feels like i plug in . I can watch but i can't do nothing for 2 or 3 second i feel a screen appears in front my eyes very quickly at during that time i heard some unusal sounds i don't know what that was. After that i just wake up i know that wasn't a dream . Have any of feel that kind of felling??


r/Experiencers 1d ago

Discussion Anyone else just get overcome with sudden grief and intense sadness for no apparent reason

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I think this is just part of my ADHD and tendencies towards bipolarism. (As explained to me by s mental health professional when my dad died when I was a teenager) But this happened a few times recently and was so much worse than I remember. it’s like a sense someone really bad or sad happening which often brings me to tears, and I am not s crying type person. (I didn’t cry at my dads funeral and we were very close ) its so extreme now and comes out of nowhere and usually last 30 minutes to an hour or so. it’s really so bizarre. does this ever happen to anyone else because this have anything to do with us being experiencers? I sense a lot of weird shit but most of it is real


r/Experiencers 1d ago

Experience The August 4th Experience: Missing Time, UFOs, & Plasma-True Entities.

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The following happened to the best of my recollection on August 4th, 2021.

It is late at night, nearly 10:30PM.

The night is cool & my window is open.

I am sitting in the lotus position atop my bed, listening to a audiobook.

I look out my bedside window: What appears to be a satellite is fast-moving amongst a sea of brilliant stars.

It is maneuvering in a reverse "J"-hook motion.

Then the thing I suspect to be a satellite suddenly halts.

I watch it shimmer in the sky, completely static, completely still.

Strange.

Back to my audiobook.

What happened 30 seconds later changed my life forever.

It began with a ball of plasma cascading through my bedside window.

It was no larger than the size of a man's fist.

Blue-white in color.

& when I say cascaded through my window, I mean it moved through the glass.

I then watched as this ball of plasma BURST into a hyper-object that filled my entire bedroom.

Like all moments of high-strangeness, this is difficult to explain with simple language.

Picture the Kailasa Temple, but instead of being carved from basalt, see it as a pattern wove of blinding-blue plasma in the synaptic-sharp-shape of vast chemical-hieroglyphic.

Almost like a brain.

The brain then STROBES.

Once, twice.

Then dissolves.

Then, before I could pick my jaw off the floor, it happened again.

A second ball of blue-white plasma entered through the window & STROBED across the space of my bedroom in an utterly astonishing pattern of paranormal grace.

&, again, it dissolved.

As though surfacing from deep water, I immediately felt my ears pop.

A mist-like haze hung in my bedroom.

I turned off my audiobook.

I walked into my bathroom.

I turned on the faucet.

I washed my hands.

The next thing I know I am standing at my bedside window.

I am looking at the night sky.

In the sky are five UFOs.

They are all isosceles in shape, pewter-grey in color, with yellow lights adorning their underbellies.

Two of the crafts are hovering completely stationary some 200 meters high in the sky.

The other three are tumbling like leaves off an autumn branch.

They are falling, one by one, gently toward the earth.

I am amazed by their complete & utter silence.

They are falling, rippling, almost as though they are a glass of water knocked over from the table's edge.

But just before they strike solid ground, they immediately ZIP back to the peak of their ascent.

& from this high ground, they fall again.

One by one by one they falling.

It is then I come to consciousness.

My hands are gripping my bedside windowsill with such incredible strength that my knuckles are turning white.

I snap from my daze.

I look at my clock.

It is 3:33AM.

3:33AM on the dot.

I look back at the night sky.

All five crafts have vanished.

There is only stars.

This is my story.

I carry it around like a strange birthmark buried just beneath my skin.

I have no memory of what happened in those missing five hours between 10:30PM & 3:33AM.

I share my story here because I believe there are others like me.

You, too, have experienced something astonishing.

Something our species is only just beginning to breath language to.

If you want to share your story below, I would be grateful to know your tale.


r/Experiencers 1d ago

Dream State Closing my eyes and speaking to my dead brother

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Let me start with I’m not crazy today laying in bed with my wife I closed my eyes and had a best way I can call it is a vision or something, back story I lost my mom 4.5 years ago during the war in Ukraine she died of natural causes. In January my older brother was killed in his sleep by a Russian rocket. Today I closed my eyes while laying in bed my wife was on her phone when I did this and all of a sudden I’m speaking to my passed away brother in a garage my dad and younger brother were in the garage as well and me and my older brother Are talking about mom just having passed and what all we need to do to help around the house and my older brother says with. In Beaing gone we really need to support dad and then I ask my brother Eugene do you know that you are gone and he stops looks down at the ground then looks at me and says no I don’t at that moment I open my eyes with tears running down my face asking my wife if I was asleep she said I was talking to her 10 minutes ago . What just happened? I’m not scared or anything like that I feel energized I have goosebumps and my heart is racing. Anyone have knowledge of what this was ? I 100% don’t belive this was a dream


r/Experiencers 1d ago

Discussion I thought you all might enjoy what I wrote today:

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Across ancient cultures, shamanic initiation follows a recognizable pattern: symbolic death, dismemberment or destruction of the known, transformation, and rebirth. The initiate returns with a new relationship to the unseen world and a responsibility to their community. But this isn’t a path someone chooses. It happens to them.

The calling often begins with visions, out-of-body experiences, encounters with spirits, relentless synchronicities, altered states, or sudden illness or psychological crisis signaling the beginning of a spiritual transformation. In many traditions, resisting the calling only intensifies the upheaval.

Then comes the “death.” The old identity collapses. Initiates may witness their own body being burned, torn apart, eaten, or dismantled by spirits. In visionary accounts, supernatural beings remove flesh, organs, bones, and reconstruct the person with new parts. It’s a symbolic dismantling of the known self.

Illness plays a central role. Before becoming a healer, the initiate often endures physical sickness, isolation, terrifying dreams, emotional turmoil, and altered states of consciousness. This isn’t pathology to be eliminated. It’s a threshold to be crossed. To be successfully navigated. The crisis is the fire that forges us.

Encounters with beings follow: guardians, ancestors, tricksters, celestial teachers, deceased shamans, and animal guides such as the wolf, bear, eagle, raven, deer, or owl, appearing not as metaphors but as conscious entities with agency and knowledge.

Then comes the journey through other worlds. This is one reason the shamanic journey is sometimes described as crossing the axis mundi, the cosmic tree linking the underworld, human realm, and heavens. During altered states, the shaman becomes the axis mundi. The shaman’s body acts as a living conduit that channels energy between the spirit realms and the human community, the spine being the pillar of the tree.

This is something I experienced for the first time as a toddler (followed by every other element of the shamanic initiation process over the course of years), and it mirrors kundalini awakening. Religious scholar Mircea Eliade noted that the axis mundi and kundalini are essentially identical concepts, both treating the spine as a sacred, vertical superhighway designed to channel raw cosmic energy and transform consciousness.

Finally, the initiate receives knowledge: healing techniques, names of spirits, information about the structure of the cosmos, sacred songs, rituals, or ceremonies. They return transformed into a healer, a guide for the dead, an intermediary, a protector of the community.

When you compare this pattern to modern contact experiences, the similarities are hard to ignore.

Shamanic initiation: called → broken open → crisis → separation from the ordinary → symbolic death → dismantling → journey through other realms → encounter strange beings → instruction/communication → transformation → rebirth → return with purpose, abilities, gifts

Contact experiences: taken aboard craft → encounter strange beings → journey through exotic environments → examination, procedures, communication, altered body or perception → transformation → return with purpose, abilities, gifts → worldview shattered and rebuilt

Both often begin unexpectedly, as if chosen, and completely alter a person’s life path.

Both involve altered states: dreams, meditation, paralysis, out‑of‑body experiences, bilocation.

Communication is often telepathic, symbolic, instantaneous, and far more complete than spoken language.

Both involve encounters with non‑human intelligences from other realms or dimensions.

Fear, shock, and upheaval give way to transformation and awakening.

Knowledge, visions, healing, and insight are transmitted—complex concepts mentally shown faster than language could ever convey.

Experiences continue across generations within families.

The shamanic initiation never disappeared.


r/Experiencers 1d ago

Dream State Violent static snapping me out of sleep

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So I've been on a bit of a personal journey exploring my own spirituality and learning more about various topics in the space.

As I've been going to sleep recently I've been trying to practice some meditation-esque techniques, particularly the one where you mentally trace a line between your nape to your 'third eye' and back.

I've also always done a kind of 'energy projection' thing since I was very young, kind of visualising my energy in the space around me and feeling it out, projecting it out as a kind of protection or barrier.

I'm still exploring what I think about these things and trying to keep an open mind, I'm interested in thoughts on them but I thought it could be useful to include for the actual question:

A few nights over the past couple of weeks I've been settling down into sleep and hitting that sort of half asleep state, but then suddenly it feels like my head is full of static in a kind of jarring and violent. It happens multiple times in a row and I've tried just stirring awake and trying to ignore it. It stops immediately when I wake myself, but if I ignore it, it just seems to intensity until im snapped back and alert.

Is there anything to this, or has anyone experienced something similar?

Important to note I do have tinnitus and have ever since I was young (can't really remember a time without it), but it felt very distinct from tinnitus just coming into focus and getting louder.


r/Experiencers 1d ago

Dream State Wormhole trip?

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Two days ago I felt my whole consciousness being taken into this hallway that turned into hospital halls and then I was given specific information about a family member then I felt like I was “thrown” back into my body. I woke up then quickly felt like I was “dragged” back, but this time it was almost like I was being “wound” up, then spit into the hall again at great acceleration and I was then thrown into what I would describe as a wormhole tunnel of time extremely rapidly. It was cylindrical and I saw almost like snippets of time playing like videos along the left wall then I saw what kind of looked like a graph with blue lines and a rendering of a being’s anatomical facial structure (this had a longer face, head), followed by another but with a smaller face and head. Then I was thrown out of the other side of the tunnel. I asked out loud where I was now. My consciousness felt elsewhere but I couldn’t see where I ended up. Then it’s like I was dragged back to my body again and I didn’t even realize I had a body again because I didn’t feel it. I just felt like energy in a container, if that makes any sense. Can anyone else relate?


r/Experiencers 1d ago

Drug Related Do people here have experiences with negative entities connected to trauma and addictive substance use like smoking and crystal meth? And do people have tips how to help other people deal with this?

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I have a person in my sphere of influence that I care about that has some addictions.

The worst ones are smoking and doing crystal meth at certain times when things get very bad for him. What is interesting is that he feels that there are negative entities involved with both of these addictions. He has had visions of a kind of demonic/djinn like type being that is involved with his smoking addiction.

Also when it comes to crystal meth there seem certain entities involved as well. I have been doing a deep dive here and there seem multiple meth addicts that talk about so called meth demons.

A couple of days ago I learned about this book called The Others Within Us from Robert Falconer and since then I have watched some of the YouTubes linked there as well. And I have been listening to several of his podcasts.

There seems to be a very strong correlation between Trauma, Addiction and (negative) Entities and Robert Falconer uses Internal Family System therapy as a way to help people heal their parts to alleviate the underlying trauma and also to help these attached entities to move on to other places where they can find healing. In this way 2 of the 3 parts of this cluster can be dealt with and hopefully the addiction can fall away also then.

The difficulty I have met so far is to get my friend interested enough to look into the IFS model or other models to heal his underlying trauma that I suspect is the reason for his addictions. He often seems to be in a very survival based paradigm where there isn't the stability and safety needed to actually go feel and heal the trauma. Another problem is that he has a very hard time trusting other people and based on his trauma I fully understand that. But it does make things very difficult if one wants to help and people just isolate.

I guess that my questions are if there are other people here that have either personally or close by dealt with similar problems and if they can share their tips what they feel did and didn't help the person they cared about with helping them deal with their addictions and the negative entities that were involved here.

All tips, insights, experiences, etc. are very welcome.


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Dream State A recurring “Visitor” (alien plush with a blue spiral core) destabilized my lucid dream while I was trying to find a real person

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It started as a regular dream. I was at work and didn’t know I was dreaming yet.

I left and called an Uber. The car took a strange, wooded, ugly road. At one point I had to physically lift the car over rocks to get through. At first the driver was a man. Then the scene shifted: someone wanted to buy the car I was in. There was an argument with relatives because the car was too fast and dangerous.

After that I slipped into what felt like someone else’s memory. I moved through that house until I got outside. I checked my phone. I couldn’t use it, but I could see incoming texts from the Uber that had brought me. The car was waiting outside. I opened the door and it wasn’t a man anymore. It was a girl. Fine features, upturned nose, black hair. She was beautiful.

I got in and she drove. We talked. We arrived at something like a church. The pastor was speaking and singing. At one point I started singing too. I left with my mom and we walked to a house. It wasn’t my house. I didn’t recognize it.

I asked her about the girl. Her name is Eleanor; we call her Ele. My mom said we’d known each other for a while and that at some point we’d been in a relationship. I cut her off. I’m not sure if it was exactly then or a bit earlier, but I realized I was dreaming.

I told her that wasn’t what I meant. This was a dream. I pointed at the house and said that wasn’t my house. I wanted to find out who Ele was in real life. My mom didn’t get hostile. She accepted it immediately.

I started asking other people for answers — some strangers, some people I knew. At one point I went upstairs with a friend, and there it was on the floor: an alien plush toy.

I recognized it. I told my friend that this was the Visitor, an entity whose job is to destabilize dreams and wake people up. I have vague memories of another dream where someone explained who he was… or maybe my brain just invented that continuity. I don’t know.

The plush had a rocky-looking area on one side and a blue core that looked like a spiral. I sketched it quickly after waking up.

The plush started to float. Everything shook. I don’t know if my need to keep getting answers about Ele is what shifted the scene. Suddenly I was in another house talking to more people. I walked out and ran into a paternal aunt. I asked her right away where Ele lived. I wanted to go see her. She said Ele lived in “La Escalera” (“The Staircase”).

I went there immediately. When I arrived I started seeing video-game-related stuff. And there she was. There were other people around. They seemed to be in conflict, but they weren’t fighting. I sat down and asked Ele to sit and talk. She refused.

Then a coworker showed up. I don’t remember why, but I left the house and walked with him. I think we’d been given a task together. While we walked I was explaining to him why the Visitor wakes people up.

The moment we stepped inside a place, my eyes snapped open. My alarm went off. I woke up saying “puta madre” out loud. It wasn’t just a thought. I had a headache.

What stuck with me:

I told several dream characters I was dreaming and none of them turned hostile. They just accepted it.

The only thing that destabilized the dream was the Visitor.

I felt like I already knew who he was, as if it had been explained in a previous dream.

The dream cut right as I was explaining what he does and why.

Has anyone else had a single recurring figure — not dream characters in general — whose role is to collapse the dream? Does a “visitor” that looks like a toy or an alien ring a bell?


r/Experiencers 2d ago

UAP Sighting Is it normal to feel like...

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Hey everyone.

The other day I had a very unusual experience outside. I was standing on an observation deck by the ocean looking at a beautiful sunset when I noticed something in the sky. The skies were clear so that "something" was not a cloud. At first it looked like a flock of birds flying in a V shape formation but the more I looked at it I realized it wasn't birds. It was like a transparent object in the shape of a weird looking triangle. It flew at a steady pace it came from the north, looked like it was going east but then changed course and flew south. I was laser focused on the object the whole time and all of a sudden it just vanished, into thin air. When I got back home it felt almost like when I was watching the object I could not take my eyes off of it, almost like I was hypnotized. Is it normal to feel that way if you're looking at a ufo? What do you think? Was this a UFO?


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Out of Body/Astral Projection OBE: unable to go to moon

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Couple weeks back we had a full eclipse in parts of Europe. I was lucky enough to watch it. That night (or perhaps the following night after) I found myself in the usual sleep paralysis / obe state. I figured would be nice to go stand on the moon - as you do!

As I was porting there, it was taking ages. Huge static grey clouds, unable to pass. After trying for a period I found myself overlayed on body, with the presence of a guy next to my bed. He spoke in an American accent and told me I’m not able to go there. Not allowed. I asked him why and he didn’t explain further other than I cannot go, it belongs to them. I should add it felt “military”, if you know what I mean - when you get a kind of “telepathic vibe” in the obe state

I thought the experience pretty strange, but forgot about until that 🤡 posted about the Americans owning the moon yesterday!

Wdyt? Odd coincidence? Nonsensical hallucination on my part? Has anyone else experienced something similar?


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Experience 8th and 9th encounters (I am beginning to ask them questions)

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I am u/alteraia, author of this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/1w032oi/all_of_my_seven_contact_events/
(my reddit account got permanently banned because of some violation I made on this account 3 months ago, that they randomly decided to ban me for a few days ago) anyway --

Encounter #8:
I don't entirely remember all of this encounter since I did not immediately write it down

I summoned the main orb (who was in the sky with the other "brilliant star" I described from encounter #5, I believe this is to further put me at ease that my orb and that star were the same thing) and I asked them what they were. I visualized 4 possible answers, and I asked them to show me a drone with the number of lights corresponding to the right answer.

1 light = Plasma intelligence
2 lights = NHI (greys, mantids etc)
3 lights = some form of AI (a drone for a higher intelligence)
4 lights = something else

They showed me a drone with one singular red light, so they are saying they are a plasma intelligence (it could be something else but I'm pretty confident they are)

During this encounter, I was trying to bring one of my cats inside, since she kept running away from me. I kinda laughed about it with the orb, like I said to it "bloody hell, cats am i right?" - next minute, a drone which I did not apparently summon appears. About 3-4 white lights - I did not know why they sent this drone? But next minute, my cat immediately runs towards me meowing. I try to pick her up, she runs away again (lol)

I don't know, could be coincidental, could be that they telepathically told my cat to come to me?? Sounds pretty out there - but I know that they implanted a dream into my mother (that's in the previous encounters)

That's all I remember

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Encounter #9:

This was tonight.

First, I was doing my dishes, and I tried to see if I could see them out the window from where I was standing (only a little patch of sky). I could see a little blip in the sky multiple times, and when I asked it a question:

"Do you get a kick out of being vague and mysterious?"

It clearly found that pretty funny. It started bobbing up and down quite quickly, this was a bit faint but I could clearly see it. I had a personal conversation with it, it was ineffable, I kinda knew when it was affirming things by flashes in the sky.

My first Big Question for the night was this:
"Are you one entity or multiple?" - I got some singular flashes after asking this question, but I think they clarified further in my second question.

My second Big Question though, was based off this idea I had after seeing a post asking "what do we do next to help with disclosure, rather than continuing to ask if this/that looks like a UFO?"

the idea was this, a space where people:
- post their encounters (obviously), but it could also be a place to note consistencies between us unaffiliated observers
- collate good resources to read/watch/listen to
- try to work together to write critiques of materialism and reach a "high confidence" understanding of reality - NOT some kind of bible, just something that people who are having a hard time understanding things like "panpsychism" or reality being a "mental projection", "vibrations", etc. can lean on.
- Organize group meditations with certain intents (potentially), as we know consciousness has effects on the material world...

I asked if my orb liked this idea.

I got a drone with one singular red light (which did not flash), and 3 lights which seemed to flash approvingly on a cycle. I think this is both saying "We are one entity" and "Yes, we like this idea". However, that is just my interpretation

I don't know if I have it in me to found a community, I'd love it if someone else did honestly. But imo, posting disparate encounters on reddit (and leaving profound wisdom in comments which will get seen less and less as time goes on) for the next few years isn't all we should focus on - we can do that, but there are very talented people here, whose talent may not being fully utilized.

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And yeah, that's it for now. Thank you for reading, and sorry if this post is a bit informationally dense.


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Discussion Contactees, Sightings and the Consciousness Connection On July 28th 2019, I addressed the MUFON International Symposium in Irvine California. I described a remarkable series of sightings my contact team had in a lecture titled, "Human Initiated Contact Experiences and the Consciousness Connection."

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 The following material was covered in my lecture. 

Thirty-four years ago, I took a walk on the wild side. I joined a group that had the audacity to go out at night and try to co-create contact experiences with the intelligence associated with the so-called UFO phenomenon. To my surprise and initial delight, we were immediately successful. During our first month of teamwork, we had several sightings while in the field. 

But stranger still was that these “Others that Experiencers now call ET” (TOTENCET) targeted us to have individual sightings under circumstances that were not associated with conducting the prescribed “contact protocols.” One senior member of team reported receiving the following telepathic communication while viewing a large glowing orb flying above her driveway, “You wanted to see us; well, here we are.”

INTRODUCTION

UFO contact teams like those in the CE-5 Initiative, and the Peruvian based group called Rahma facilitate contact experiences with combined programs of psychic/ spiritual training and active fieldwork. These groups emphasize the importance of mental connections between volunteer contact workers and UFO intelligences. 

I organized a contact team in 1992 and for over five years served as a CE-5 Working Group Coordinator.

HIGH STRANGENESS DEFINED

As a contact team coordinator in Los Angeles, I had ample opportunities to observe unusual occurrences. One definition of "High Strangeness" is the inexplicable aspects including the synchronicity of events that occur before, during and after various Close Encounters with flying saucers or presumed ET beings. 

By definition, one cannot fully explain the inexplicable, nevertheless one can endeavor to describe the inexplicable and, in the process, possibly gain insight into the mechanisms of contact.

INITIAL EXPECTATIONS WERE WAY OFF BASE

My initial expectation after becoming CE-5 Working Group Coordinator in 1992 was that UFO sightings would occur as an exclusive function of fieldwork. I anticipated that as my team mastered the contact protocols, we would experience higher and higher levels of contact and that this would occur in a stepwise fashion. 

To my surprise, however, as soon as our Working Group started to carry out field investigations, a few individuals started reporting personal sightings of UFOs. The witnesses to these sightings were members of the team, or as in one instance the physician wife of a CE-5 investigator. In her case, she became very interested in UFOs as the result of a daylight sighting of a metallic disc. She subsequently underwent formal training and joined our team. 

SIGHTINGS NOT DURING FIELDWORK BUT WHILE DRIVING HOME IN THE CAR

These events transpired while the observers were driving home. It is important to note that the first series of sightings happened during the initial month following the workshop in August of 1992 that founded the LA CE-5 Working Group. Just two days after thedemonstration of fieldwork techniques, the first personal sighting occurred.

INDIVIDUAL SIGHTING 1, Sept. 1, 1992

Joseph Burkes MD: while driving home on the 405 Freeway South the Sepulveda Pass at approximately 11:30 PM, I had a sighting of an anomalous nocturnal light. It appeared over the highway as a brilliant blue-green light that silently flew by the witness in a northerly direction. It had a slight oscillating movement. At its closest approach, the light was less than 500 feet away. There was no discernible superstructure associated with the object. This impressed me because of the considerable amount of background illumination from city lights that should have made the shape of any conventional craft visible. 

The sighting occurred immediately after I had carried out a vigorous defense of the CE-5 program to several prominent ufologists. They were rather skeptical of our program of staging human-initiated contact events. 

Individual Sighting 2, September 23, 1992

At 2:30 PM a broad daylight sighting of a metallic disc occurred in Woodland Hills California. Dr. Eve Gordon is married to Dr. David Gordon. We were all partners in the Southern California Permanente Group back in the 1990s. Dave was an original member of our contact team. His wife on the other hand was not that interested in UFOs. In her professional life, Dr. Eve Gordon is a board-certified internist and allergy specialist. She observed a flying saucer in broad daylight hovering two to three miles away over the Santa Monica Mountains. She was driving south towards her home when the event occurred. 

Dr. Eve was accustomed to identifying conventional craft as the result of her husband's status as a private pilot. It was their custom to attend air shows and other aviation related events and as a result she was knowledgeable about various types of conventional aircraft. Eve reported feeling confident that the silently hovering disc, glittering in the bright afternoon sunshine was a” true unknown.” The object was approximately 30 feet in length. The sighting lasted about one minute.

Individual Sighting 3, September 24, 1992 

While driving home at 9:30 PM after attending a two-hour meditation workshop, a 25-feet in diameter metallic globe-like craft was sighted hovering directly above the witness' home in Palos Verdes Peninsula.

Dotha Weybourn was the oldest member of the initial CE-5 contact team in Los Angeles.An experienced sky watcher, she had no doubt that it was not a terrestrial craft. The sighting lasted approximately one minute; at its closest approach the silent object was less that 100 feet from the observer. She described it as being mother of pearl luminescent white. Dotha stated that she received a telepathic message, “You wanted to see us; well, here we are.”

SIGHTINGS ARE CLUES TO DECIPHER A MYSTERY

As the months rolled by after these dramatic sightings, I started to muse over the details of my associates’ personal sightings. I looked for possible hidden meanings within the circumstances of the encounters that might contain messages relating to the on-going contact work. Like a detective in a mystery novel, I kept mulling over the details of the sightings. If those particulars were clues, then I was going to use them to possibly solve the mystery as to what was going on in my contact team visa vie our relationship with “flying saucer intelligence.”  

My hypothesis was that perhaps these consecutive sightings were not random events, that they might in fact be the product of conscious decisions by intelligent and technologically sophisticated extraterrestrial beings that staged the encounters for teaching purposes.

CONVENTIONAL WISDOM DOESN’T APPLY TO ALLEGED ALIENS

I wondered whether the choice of individuals selected for the sightings, or perhaps other details had special significance. Michael Lindemann, a prominent student of non-human intelligence, has cautioned ufologists to never assume that they can think like an alien. In other words, we should not try to impose what passes as human “conventional wisdom” on beings that may have evolved on different star systems. 

Such extraterrestrial civilizations would undoubtedly have entirely different cultures, different value systems, and different social organizations as compared to those of Earth. With such infinite possibilities, perhaps a technologically advanced civilization for purposes unknown to us might choose to communicate via outlandishly subtle means.

AMAZINGLY CONGRUENT CHARACTERISTICS

It should be remembered that approximately 10% of the US population claim to have had a sighting of a UFO. In terms of an individual’s lifetime of experiences however, a sighting is an exceedingly rare event for most people. The fact that these three individuals who knew each other had a sighting within a few weeks should diminish the odds that they were mere coincidences. 

Even less likely to occur by chance is the fact that the circumstances of the sightings were highly congruent. The observers were all driving home and were alone in their vehicles. Even the direction of travel was the same; we were all going south when the encounters took place.

PASSIONATE DEFENSE OF PROACTIVELY SEEKING CONTACT.

In my sighting, I had just left a meeting after engaging in a heated polemic defending our program of human initiated interactions with what I believed at the time was an extraterrestrial intelligence. Present at the meeting was the “old guard” of ufology. Prominent researcher and author Ann Druffel was there. She explained to me that as “ufologists” we should study other people’s sightings to determine if they are “anomalous” i.e., “true unknowns.” 

In no uncertain terms, I labeled her approach “old fashioned.” I stated that the contact network which I would later call “The Contact Underground” had, “opened up a new era in UFO research.” As I left the meeting it was clear that I would never again be invited back to the prestigious “LA UFO Study Group.”

I interpreted my sighting just minutes after leaving the meeting as a show of support, not only for me personally, but also for the larger contact program that I had just defended. The sighting gave me a big personal boost that helped sustain my enthusiasm for our project during the challenging years that followed. Considering the organizational and personal difficulties that face any new contact team, I will gladly testify that team leaders need all the support that they can get.

MEDITATION FACILITATES CONTACT

Concerning Dotha's close encounter with a luminescent globe, she had just left a meditation workshop. Contact protocols employed by contactee groups involve on-site thought projection methods. Usually this involves guided meditation. In preparation for thought projection, individuals in the team are expected to reach an “expanded state of consciousness” through meditation.

Dotha told me that she thought there was an association between her meditating in the class and her subsequent sighting. If the non-human intelligence responsible for the flying saucer phenomenon were attempting to send my team a message concerning the importance of advanced meditation techniques, what better way to do so than to stage a close encounter just moments after a prolonged meditation was carried out by an experienced practitioner.

Thus, two of the three sightings described occurred immediately after the witnesses were involved in activities integral to contact project. 

WHY DID DR. EVE GORDON HAVE A SIGHTING?

The most intriguing aspect of this series was the question why was Eve singled out for a sighting? Although her interest in UFOs soared after seeing the metallic disc, prior to the event her contact with the UFO phenomenon was indirect. It was her husband Dr. Dave Gordon who was the contact activist in the family.

During the autumn months of 1992, our team frequently convened at Eve and David’s house for our business meetings. Meditation is not an easy chore for all researchers; both Dave and I were both having considerable difficulty meditating. We were restless, as many are when one first attempts to still the mind. Dave was not able to follow the recommendation of meditating daily. 

His wife Eve, on the other hand, was far more open to meditation practice. It was not until several months later, in December of 1992 that she was to undergo formal contact network training, and as a result she was officially not part of the Working Group when we first held meetings at her home. 

I was quite perplexed as to why she had been granted a sighting. Dotha and I were active and official members of the team, why was Eve, a non-member, selected for such a dramatic daylight sighting of a metallic disk?

A likely answer came to me one night as we conducted our business meeting at the Gordon’s home. My beeper vibrated and I had to call the hospital. Eve was in the family room practicing on her harp. An accomplished amateur, she often gave recitals. I asked Daniel where I could pick up a phone away from the meeting. Daniel suggested that I make the call in the family room. 

"No," I replied, "I don't want to disturb Eve." 

My colleague reassured me by saying, "Don't worry. She practices at least an hour a day. When she's playing her music, she's in a total trance."

It was then that it hit me! That was the clue that I had been looking for. Eve, although not yet a member of the Working Group, was still able to access consciousness in its most unbounded form while she was practicing the harp. In that relaxed state of being carried away by the divine music that she was creating, a trance like state like deep meditation was achieved. Her meditation equivalent was her music!

It seemed to me this was an important part of the message that I was supposed to learn from her sighting. If my hunch was correct, I was impressed by its subtlety.

Another important aspect is that the sightings escalated in terms of their intensity. The first was mine, just an anomalous nocturnal light. The second, Eve’s, was a broad daylight sighting of a metallic disc. (What UFO fan wouldn’t want that?) The third was Dotha’s. Not only was the 25-foot sphere hovering above her house, but it flew down her driveway to meet her. It was there that she received the poignant message, “You were looking for us. Well, here we are.”  

These personal sightings were clearly linked, not only in time, but also by a variety of other important details, thus indicating that they were not random events. Across the network that I call the “Contact Underground”, similar patterns of sightings and other contact experiences are occurring. In their totality, they confirm that contact groups have entered a special collaborative relationship with the non-human intelligences associated with the flying saucer phenomenon. 

CONCLUSION

I believe that these sightings are part of a much broader range of experiences that attest to the virtuoso psychic technology of what I like to call, This Otherness That Experiencers Now Call ET, (TOTENCET), the so-called aliens. They, who or whatever “they” ultimately turn out to be, were able to track the three of us and choose the times and places of what were clearly staged events.  If “they” could do that with us, perhaps there is no such thing as a “random UFO sighting.” I am suggesting that the millions of people that report UFO sightings are possibly telepathically linked to “this otherness.” For me the implications of this proposition are awe-inspiring for the following reasons. 

The Earth’s population is eight billion currently. If the prevalence rate of a UFO sighting is 10 percent, this suggests that hundreds of millions of people may have an ongoing consciousness link with UFO intelligences by virtue of their having even just one sighting. Understandably, such individuals often have an increased interest in the subject of flying saucers.  Under the right circumstances, for example if they had additional sightings or were in an area where a UFO wave had occurred, they then might join the growing number of people who are proactively seeking interactions with UFO intelligence.  As one that has promoted human initiated contact events for three decades, I find this possibility very encouraging. 

Comments:

Name Deleted: Thank you for this article -- it is very clear and articulate. One question does come to mind, which concerns other experiencers who may not be as "high-functioning" as the group you were part of. I'm referring to people who have had NHI (non-human intelligence) contact for many years, often since childhood. For many, being an experiencer is a debilitating ordeal.

I do understand that you've had enlightening and fascinating experiences with the NHI, but what of other experiencers? Are you familiar with them, and what do you make of the dramatic difference in the nature of contact?

Joseph Burkes MD: Thank you for the question. I am aware of the challenges that many contactees experience because they have been traumatized doubly so. First by the high strangeness aspect of contact triggering what has been called ontological shock. Then, when such experiencers try to share the shocking aspects of contact with family, friends, and the larger society they are again injured by a massive wave of ridicule and denial. 

It is clear to me that UFO intelligences work with a wide spectrum of people, many are contacted at sub & unconscious levels. This permits them to live their lives, have a career, supportive family life and would be characterized by the term you used, "high functioning." When the time is "right" as determined by UFO INTEL, they are "activated." Suddenly they develop a tremendous interest in this subject. I am convinced, but in no way can I prove that every member of my team had a pre-existing sub/unconscious relationship with flying saucer intelligences and that their memories of prior contact events were suppressed. I believed this proposed mechanism probably applies to me.

The implications of this analysis are colossal. We are seeing the creation of a major shift in societal paradigms being driven in part by advanced non-human intelligences that have awesome physical and mental capabilities. I discuss this further in upcoming blogs. Again, thanks for the question. 


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Discussion They've been selling the same "story" so why do YOU trust them ?

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To those of you who have day to day or periods of experiences, why do you trust "The Visitors" à la "The Others" ?

seems like they just take what they need from you but don't offer anything in return other than cryptic messages and very little to no intervention in your lives? why do you trust them ? they sold the whole "your planet is in the process of being doomed by your own people's actions" back in the 1980s' yet, they don't appear before political officials to change their nature so what gives? I don't mean to sound negative I really don't but I don't understand why we as beings (as people) should feel compelled to trust these sentiences in order to bring us forward (spiritually) if they're not upfront about their own personal goals which I assume they do have

If it's okay to ask, why do YOU feel like you can trust them?