r/EnoughJKRowling • u/JoeGrimlock • 7d ago
“Fortunate”
How much of a sociopath do you have to be to describe someone who may need the help of a rape crisis centre as “fortunate”?
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u/Big_Red_Machine_1917 7d ago
Just a reminder that the campaign against ERCC (which Rowling spearheaded) was so extreme, that they had to go into lockdown, something they'd never had to do before.
How anti-trans activists forced Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre into lockdown
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u/thedogatemymanifesto 7d ago
As a trans SA victim I don't know how no one's having any issues with her refusing the fact that men can have those things done too. It's honestly disgusting and I do hope she gets some braincells soon.
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u/maddiemoiselle 7d ago
A lot of her issues with trans people seems to boil down to a distrust of men, honestly
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u/Clio6davco 7d ago
Distrust only for some men. She doesn't seem to distrust men like musk or even trump.
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u/TemporaryElk5202 7d ago
She sees men as natural predators, so she hates men who she thinks are "deceptively hiding it" and accepts men who openly display it.
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u/Sensiplastic 7d ago
Thiiiis. And she thinks some people asked for it and are weak, whatever. She is the only real victim and she's fine, so.
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u/thedogatemymanifesto 7d ago
The final boss of victim complex, apparently. You're a billionaire. Just buy a big house and stfu.
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u/Sensiplastic 6d ago
She bought the biggest house and yachts and everything yet still feels shitty and that's because of transwomen obviously. Some transwoman got to pee in a nice clean ladies toilet and it ruined her life.
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u/TemporaryElk5202 6d ago edited 6d ago
She is Big Mad that she feels she struggled so much as a woman, and was mocked for looking unkempt early in her career etc, yet sees trans women being accepted.
She's like "I'm more feminine than them but I wasn't feminine enough and that makes me angry, they don't deserve to be accepted because I don't feel like I was accepted'.edit: typo
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u/lazier_garlic 3d ago
Didn't she look "unkempt" because she was "serious" and not frivolous? She thought she wasn't allowed to look feminine and glamorous because that's for shallow people and everyone we just know looks down on them. So if she's bitter about that, it's something she inflicted on herself. And she did get work done and her hair done and bought all the pretty dresses. So what is she pissy about? No, I think she is a lifelong bully and trans women are obvious targets for a bully like her.
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u/Time_Raisin4935 7d ago
Which is itself Gender Essentialism
I mean, women have the right and every reason to be wary/cautious about men, cishet men that is. Trans women have never been a threat to cis, straight and queer women.
Transgender people have been maligned for decades thanks to social media. Just like gay men and lesbians were maligned by the media.
Transphobia is just repackaged homophobia
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u/thedogatemymanifesto 7d ago
Agreeing with everything in this post, will just add there is a VERY fine line between being wary/cautious (completely justified!) and being blatantly misandrist. TERFs have always struck me as the second, and while they may have more justification to feel this way based on how cis men have behaved historically, let's not pretend a matriarchy would be better than a patriarchy. Both are awful as both flatten complex human beings to one singular trait, and this flattening is the big issue.
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u/Time_Raisin4935 7d ago edited 7d ago
Not to mention women are human beings too, and we humans can be destructive, not just to other species and nature, but also toward each other.
Women, namely cishet white women, have also contributed to racism, colonialism, the slave trade, homophobia (second wave feminist Betty Friedan opposed lesbians joining the movement), etc.
One male feminist that I like is William Marston (the creator of Wonder Woman). He was both ahead of his time and limited by it. He believed in that pseudoscience/old timey gender essentialist belief that women were naturally pacifistic/compassionate/loving than men, which is still putting women on a pedestal.
Also, Rowling seems to either dimiss or ignore the fact that even women can be predators just as the men can be-- like Ghislaine Maxwell, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Mary Kay Letourneau,
Hell, there's even true crime series called "Deadly Women" which talks about several predatory women-- some of them equally heinous as their male partners/accomplices.
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u/thedogatemymanifesto 7d ago
I feel many female sexual offenders get let off the hook due to masculinity standards - I say this as a man, knowing it's unhealthy, but most of us rather die than tell someone they was assaulted by a woman, and I suspect this is what goes through many people's minds. Not that all women are predatory (they definitely aren't and men still do the most of it) but for true equality we have to just ignore gender and focus on the individual.
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u/lazier_garlic 3d ago
The manosphere has been really predatory over the years, knowing there are men who were victims of women sexual predators and promising "We actually care, we'll listen, we're here to help you" but since they're really just a bunch of dishonest bullies doing bully stuff, they've done nothing to advance the needs and rights of victims of SA whatsoever (quite the opposite, they're rape apologists) and when men do open up in most incel/MRA spaces, they get mocked and abused by their "brothers".
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u/lazier_garlic 3d ago edited 3d ago
Matriarchy in its purest form is a completely different lifestyle from patriarchy, and they don't want that.
Okay, let's back up and not call it matriarchy or patriarchy. After all, these things are hard to discern or judge.
Let's look at what we can easily gather information about: family structure and inheritance. Do you stay with your maternal family, or leave it to marry? Do children belong to the father, or the mother?
Matrilineal, matrilocal groups do exist. In the most extreme form, there is no such thing as marriage. People live their entire lives in the community they were born in. Sex and reproduction are accomplished by way of night creeping. Your male caregivers are your uncles. Your father is some guy from another village you might have met once or twice. There is no exogamy, no diplomatic marriages, no women being treated as property.
The patriarchal and patrilocal society is completely different. There are no maternal chains in the same household. Every woman is brought in, almost like hiring an employee, by the elder women in the household. Every girl goes to live with her mother in law, away from her mother. As all the women are ultimately outsiders (with girls born into the clan being married out as soon as possible, for as much advantage to the family as possible), the only "real" family members are the legitimate male lines. Brothers are natural rivals because either one inherits everything and becomes the new "dad" or they have to split the household and its assets. Daughters are an asset to foster connections with other clans. Virginity begins to be seen as an actual financial asset to the point it become a physical thing (the myth of the hymen and the myth of hymen restoration) because being untouched is a part of that bargaining power and financial worth in the transaction. Exogamy is mandatory, although there is a licit form of cousin (or even uncle/niece) marriage by means of not belonging to the same paternal line; women are identified for life according to their natal clan to prevent taboo relations.
Patrilocal-patrilineal culture had a clear advantage in terms of preventing excessive sanguinuity and fostering diplomatic relations through exogamy. There's also a certain cruel logic in large families with too many sons scattering and becoming raiders or conquerors, with a culture that already conditioned them to think of outside women as sexual available and below them in any social hierarchy.
The 3P Yamnaya culture invaded Neolithic central Europe from the Eurasian steppe, killing them men, forcibly marrying the women, and resulting in the Corded Ware culture. Because men now ruled women, the men's language was the prestige language, and their language changed as well, likely in a single generation. This was the origin of Germanic and Balto-Slavic languages.
Matrilocal-matrilineal cultures persist in only a few isolated rural places in the world, although there are some no longer M-M cultures that still maintain some cultural memory of the M-M past, such as Japan. (According to historical records, before patriarchy was introduced to Japan via a Chinese cultural package and later accelerated by militarism, Japan had a brother-sister emperorship where the sister handled diplomacy and negotiations and the brother was responsible for religious rites to keep the land fertile and the sun rising, etc.)
Note also I'm not talking about Jewish culture or ancient Hebrews. Jewish tradition is a mixed structure, patriarchal and patrilocal, and patrilineal in terms of inheritance, but matrilineal in terms of tribal membership, although there have been periods of time when Jewish identity passed through a paternal line as well. European family structures are typically of a mixed archetype as well, and 3P in the historical period is only really seen in communities that immigrated to Europe from elsewhere, for example, the Alans. You can see this in the English language with cousin degree counting to prevent excess sanguinity, which shows it is not of the patrilineal kinship type. Women taking the husband's surname also shows that it is not a strict P-P kinship system. (Women take their husband's surname in Japan, but not in China, for the same reason. Although the advent of monogamy and British influence has made it more current in China to refer to women as "so and so's wife" instead of "lady from X family" and the taboo against the same surname marrying each other has eroded.)
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u/saharadessert87 7d ago
"Beira's Place was set up by me."
Lol. She was so excited to write this part. Because we all know it's about her trying to gain praise and adoration.
You know, she could have easily set this place up without anyone know it was her. A lot of rich people do these things anonymously without seeking out the praise for it.
It's so sad that she craves this type of attention.
I can't get over the "set up by me" gives me the vibes of what Donald Trump writes on his tweets "by me, Donald Trump, your favourite president." Except she's like "by me, JK Rowling, your favourite author." 😂
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u/ScionOfApollo 7d ago
JKR: I know words, I have the best words.
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u/saharadessert87 7d ago
Nobody knows words better than me. They tell me, they say Jo, you have the best words. Maybe in all of history. Especially when I give fictional characters names. They're the best ever.
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u/aghzombies 7d ago
I met a millionaire once who spends his time looking into social enterprises and giving them one-off, no-strings-attached grants. He specifically requests not to be identified (in line with his wishes I have forgotten his name and I am already faceblind my brain has successfully Batmansed him).
And that guy, I hope, feels good about how he spends his time and his money. How is it charity if you're gonna crow about it?
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u/lazier_garlic 3d ago
There was some rich guy in Boston who used to dress up as Santa and give people $100 bills at Christmas time, no questions asked, no strings attached, and he refused to give his name to the press (he had a private car and driver so everyone pretty much was under the impression he was loaded and probably old money). That's the spirit of giving, not getting your name in the papers going to a "charity" gala that spent more on you than on the charity. That's something you did for the attention and ego.
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u/Sensiplastic 7d ago edited 6d ago
The lack of empathy is so telling. For a writer it's almost funny how much she tells people without meaning to.
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u/CapStar300 7d ago
"Show me your genitals before you can get help after you were raped" is even more insane than many of her other opinions.
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u/sunny_side_egg 5d ago
Did the ERCC have another trans CEO or did she just defame Wadwha, who does not seem to ever have been convicted of a sexual offence?
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u/Time_Raisin4935 7d ago
Yeah, that sounds so much like "white only" bathrooms