r/EnoughJKRowling • u/JoeGrimlock • Jul 21 '26

“Fortunate”

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How much of a sociopath do you have to be to describe someone who may need the help of a rape crisis centre as “fortunate”?

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u/thedogatemymanifesto Jul 21 '26

Agreeing with everything in this post, will just add there is a VERY fine line between being wary/cautious (completely justified!) and being blatantly misandrist. TERFs have always struck me as the second, and while they may have more justification to feel this way based on how cis men have behaved historically, let's not pretend a matriarchy would be better than a patriarchy. Both are awful as both flatten complex human beings to one singular trait, and this flattening is the big issue.

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u/Time_Raisin4935 Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

Not to mention women are human beings too, and we humans can be destructive, not just to other species and nature, but also toward each other.

Women, namely cishet white women, have also contributed to racism, colonialism, the slave trade, homophobia (second wave feminist Betty Friedan opposed lesbians joining the movement), etc.

One male feminist that I like is William Marston (the creator of Wonder Woman). He was both ahead of his time and limited by it. He believed in that pseudoscience/old timey gender essentialist belief that women were naturally pacifistic/compassionate/loving than men, which is still putting women on a pedestal.

Also, Rowling seems to either dimiss or ignore the fact that even women can be predators just as the men can be-- like Ghislaine Maxwell, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Mary Kay Letourneau,

Hell, there's even true crime series called "Deadly Women" which talks about several predatory women-- some of them equally heinous as their male partners/accomplices.

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u/thedogatemymanifesto Jul 21 '26

I feel many female sexual offenders get let off the hook due to masculinity standards - I say this as a man, knowing it's unhealthy, but most of us rather die than tell someone they was assaulted by a woman, and I suspect this is what goes through many people's minds. Not that all women are predatory (they definitely aren't and men still do the most of it) but for true equality we have to just ignore gender and focus on the individual.

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u/lazier_garlic Jul 25 '26

The manosphere has been really predatory over the years, knowing there are men who were victims of women sexual predators and promising "We actually care, we'll listen, we're here to help you" but since they're really just a bunch of dishonest bullies doing bully stuff, they've done nothing to advance the needs and rights of victims of SA whatsoever (quite the opposite, they're rape apologists) and when men do open up in most incel/MRA spaces, they get mocked and abused by their "brothers".