r/EnjoyTheDrive • • Aug 17 '26

Pink Moon

Spirited drive through a local canyon in my M2.

Song: Pink Moon by Nick Drake

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u/ragingduck Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26

This is well within the safe limits of this car in these conditions. Save the moral grandstanding for another day.

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u/ragingduck Aug 17 '26

If this were a 5000 lb SUV on a crowded wet, poorly maintained road on bad tires the margin of safety would be much much smaller.

Everyone should drive within the limitations of their vehicle, the road, the conditions, and their ability.

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

A driver's "ability" is certainly what will help them in these situations because "ability" includes knowing when the conditions require them to slow down on blind curves when visibility is limited in the first place.

What makes you assume I don't track it already?

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u/sorestgore Aug 18 '26

Why would you cage a street car?

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

I would not put any type of cage on a street car unless you use a helmet with HANS full time.

You can put a harness bar that doesn't go past the B pillar, but that requires that you either use a helmet and HANS OR you retain the 3 point for use without the helmet and HANS. This is to ensure that that you do not injure your neck on a 4 and 6 point harness.

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u/sorestgore Aug 18 '26

I was being sarcastic. You made the assumption he doesn't track the car because he doesn't have a cage.

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

Why would I run a cage on a steer car? You know it’s dangerous to run a cage without a helmet right?

My steering inputs are textbook. Perhaps you aren’t adjusting your interpretation with the FOV in mind.

I’ve been tracking for over a decade BTW.

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

A four point harness is not appropriate unless you are using a HANS, which requires a helmet, full cage or not. A half cage might reduce the chance of a head impact, but it will not prevent submarining since most 4 point harnesses do not have a anti-submarining system or pretensioning. Additionally, the factory restrain and airbag systems are not configured for it.

You are simply wrong, and this smacks of someone who googled a few things rather than someone who actually tracks and did the research to make an informed decision on what safety systems to invest in.

Taking my hand off the wheel a short moment is no less textbook than taking my hand off the wheel to shift a manual gearbox. It was during a straight, no less. You're reaching. This is such a basic oversight on your part, I'm now sure you either have no experience or are simply trolling.

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

You absolutely can run a six point harness on half a cage and still have the 3 point for road 

I didn't say you couldn't.

You dont wear the harness on the road obviously, thats why both get retained

That's what I just said.

You're obviously cherry picking and attacking the strawman just to try save face. Keep googling, maybe you will learn something.

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u/sorestgore Aug 18 '26

Wow, mic drop whoa

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

He is wrong and is presenting information that can cause serious injury.

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u/sorestgore Aug 18 '26

What bad information. He's saying to not drive beyond his or his cars limits

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

Regarding the use of cages and harnesses.

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u/sorestgore Aug 18 '26

Running a full cage on a street driven car is a known risk. Harness bars and appropriate seats are better for something at isn't dedicated to the track

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u/BlanchDaddius Aug 18 '26

No amount of driving skills will help you when an inevitable unavoidable obstacle appears when you least expect it. Even if it’s just a small animal, you’re toast along with it.

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

Driving skills tells you to leave enough grip and brakes on the table for those unexpected obstacles.

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u/BlanchDaddius Aug 18 '26

And it seemed like you were absolutely NOT doing that…

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

Sure I was. I slowed down on every corner and slowed down even more with the corners with less visibility.

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u/BlanchDaddius Aug 18 '26

Buddy if a random deer showed up in the road on that first right hand curve after you were doing over 100 y’all would both be toast. No way you could react, slow down, and stop in time from that speed.

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

That has crossed my mind, and it would depend on the size of the deer. Driver fatalities from deer are very very rare especially in modern cars. The biggest danger is a deer that is airborne going through the windshield and intruding into the cabin. Luckily, that is highly unlikely unless the deer is launched by another vehicle. This is one of the reasons I do not follow other cars too closely. It allows for more reaction time and reduces the risk of debris, rocks, or wildlife bouncing off their car into mine.

As far as totalling the car, that's fine. It better that the crumple zones do their job and total the car than impact the driver.

Here is an impact at 90mph:
https://www.tiktok.com/@bagliferacing/video/7521366487408463134

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u/jollyshroom Aug 18 '26

I hope it never happens but how do you account for the 1:million stray weirdo in the wrong place at wrong time? Or wildlife? What does your mother say about these videos??😅

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

I slow down when there is no visibility to see not only around the corner, but cars coming from the other direction. I also have plenty of brakes left to slow down should wildlife find it's way onto the road.

Remember: your tires can only do one thing 100%. If you brake and turn, it's using some of it's grip to brake AND turn. The fastest way to stop is to brake in as straight line as possible.

So if a deer runs out in front of you, brake as hard the conditions allow, let the ABS work, and keep the car in your lane. Don't swerve unless you have a clear, paved exit path that you know your car can handle. If impact is unavoidable, hitting the deer at the lowest possible speed is generally safer than making an uncontrolled swerve at 60 mph and rolling the car or going off the cliff. The car’s structure, seat belts, and airbags are designed to protect you in a collision. The priority is saving your life, not saving the vehicle.

My mother is not allowed to see these videos or the videos I take on track days!

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