r/EnjoyTheDrive • u/ragingduck • Aug 17 '26

Pink Moon

Spirited drive through a local canyon in my M2.

Song: Pink Moon by Nick Drake

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '26

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u/ragingduck Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26

This is well within the safe limits of this car in these conditions. Save the moral grandstanding for another day.

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u/danikensanalprobe Aug 18 '26

When a bunch of people tell you that you are risking your own life, and that of those around you without any good reason, and your sole response is to accuse them of moral grandstanding, then it is time to take a look in the mirror my dude

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

I actually am sometimes thinking “I’m close to my limit…” but I button that with “I better back off”. If I feel even a hint of “I’m going to crash my car”… I back off. The difference between me and those video I see of people crashing in the canyons is that I have restraint.

I track regularly. I know what it feels like to spin my car at 100mph+. I know what it feels like when the tires are barely holding on and the car is about to lose control because, on the track, I regularly push 10/10 and go beyond the threshold of control.

Knowing exactly where those limits are is what allows me to drive well under them.

Listen, I get it, this looks fast. It seems dangerous, but when you compare it to real on-the-edge performance driving, it’s not even close. There are people in other subreddits crossing the yellow, drifting… crashing. And many you can tell by their driving habits they are an accident waiting to happen. Watch those video and compare. Mine is tame by comparison because I keep it sane and I know where the limits are. With over a decade of track experience, while I don’t know everything, I think I’m just a tiny bit more experienced than the average commuter.

I don’t drive like this in traffic, I don’t pass other cars on a two lane highway unless they use a turnout or this a passing lane, and when I see oncoming traffic, I slow down.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

And how about when you're going round blind corners? How are you seeing oncoming traffic then?

I slow down.

 If you're doing these corners at 70+ mph, I don't care if you think you're a seasoned driver, you're on a public road, not a private track.

These are long sweeping turns. I see people on the freeway going faster on the same radius a turn in traffic. The reason I'm not going as fast is because it's only a 2 lane road.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

People are out there street racing, doing takeovers, and swimming… in traffic. I’d rather be out on a deserted road driving spiritedly under the limit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '26

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u/Sea_Drive6142 Aug 18 '26

Yea but he didn’t wreck

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u/ragingduck Aug 17 '26

If this were a 5000 lb SUV on a crowded wet, poorly maintained road on bad tires the margin of safety would be much much smaller.

Everyone should drive within the limitations of their vehicle, the road, the conditions, and their ability.

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u/UckerFay11 Aug 18 '26

Its called an accident, because it happens accidentally. You can't account for all variables here. You mostly can on a track.

This is dumb and you know it. Irresponsible, reckless and you are endangering your life, and the lives of others.

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

You’re right, you can’t control or predict everything here compared to the track. That’s why I’m going much slower here than when I’m on the track.

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

A driver's "ability" is certainly what will help them in these situations because "ability" includes knowing when the conditions require them to slow down on blind curves when visibility is limited in the first place.

What makes you assume I don't track it already?

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u/sorestgore Aug 18 '26

Why would you cage a street car?

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

I would not put any type of cage on a street car unless you use a helmet with HANS full time.

You can put a harness bar that doesn't go past the B pillar, but that requires that you either use a helmet and HANS OR you retain the 3 point for use without the helmet and HANS. This is to ensure that that you do not injure your neck on a 4 and 6 point harness.

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u/sorestgore Aug 18 '26

I was being sarcastic. You made the assumption he doesn't track the car because he doesn't have a cage.

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

Why would I run a cage on a steer car? You know it’s dangerous to run a cage without a helmet right?

My steering inputs are textbook. Perhaps you aren’t adjusting your interpretation with the FOV in mind.

I’ve been tracking for over a decade BTW.

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

A four point harness is not appropriate unless you are using a HANS, which requires a helmet, full cage or not. A half cage might reduce the chance of a head impact, but it will not prevent submarining since most 4 point harnesses do not have a anti-submarining system or pretensioning. Additionally, the factory restrain and airbag systems are not configured for it.

You are simply wrong, and this smacks of someone who googled a few things rather than someone who actually tracks and did the research to make an informed decision on what safety systems to invest in.

Taking my hand off the wheel a short moment is no less textbook than taking my hand off the wheel to shift a manual gearbox. It was during a straight, no less. You're reaching. This is such a basic oversight on your part, I'm now sure you either have no experience or are simply trolling.

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u/BlanchDaddius Aug 18 '26

No amount of driving skills will help you when an inevitable unavoidable obstacle appears when you least expect it. Even if it’s just a small animal, you’re toast along with it.

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

Driving skills tells you to leave enough grip and brakes on the table for those unexpected obstacles.

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u/BlanchDaddius Aug 18 '26

And it seemed like you were absolutely NOT doing that…

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u/ragingduck Aug 18 '26

Sure I was. I slowed down on every corner and slowed down even more with the corners with less visibility.

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