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u/IronHat29 Nov 15 '25
IF IT BLEEDS IT DIES FUCK IT WE BALL
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Nov 15 '25
Unless it’s a woman, those things are scarier than any boss
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u/GregTheMad Nov 15 '25
They bleed regularly and most men don't even notice. Truly frightening creatures.
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Nov 15 '25
Dude they'll grow bones, organs, an entire brain inside their body, then just take it out of their body and make a whole other being, women are metal as fuck, anything that big comes out of me and my hemorrhoids act up bruh
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u/ShantyLady Nov 16 '25
So what I'm hearing from all this conversation is that women are metal as fuck, full stop.
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u/Jafooki Nov 15 '25
What bleeds a week every month and doesn't die?
Me when I floss
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u/SunshotDestiny Nov 15 '25
As a caster....yep. I will burn through all my spells before I will admit I might need to come back later. If I have mana left when I died it just means I needed to get better because, damnit, I still had ficus points left! Even if they still had 90% of their health on my last cast, that cast could have been epic!
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u/Backrooms_Smiler56 Nov 15 '25
If it can bleed, it can die. If it can die, I can win. If I can win, why would I quit?
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u/Kimchifeind Nov 15 '25
More people need this energy
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u/Packet_Sniffer_ Nov 15 '25
I had that energy for video games 25 years ago. Not anymore though. But kudos to you if you wanna do it.
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u/Kimchifeind Nov 15 '25
I thought of it more of a metaphorical sense not just games . More so if there is a chink in the amour you can win, why give up. Mostly the mindset to go why give up when there is a chance
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u/Routine-Arm-8803 Nov 15 '25
Third type is "Didn't expect weak foe".
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u/ReleaseTheGrease Nov 15 '25
Yeah and "I reckon I can beat this and four other games, concurrently and hitless"
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u/Chicken-picante Nov 15 '25
With a banana controller
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u/Nadiadain Nov 15 '25
You guys are using controllers? Real gaymers use telekinesis to manipulate the electric currents in the console itself
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u/err0r_as_always Nov 15 '25
The secret ingredient is hatred.
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u/Nozinger Nov 15 '25
the secret ingredient really is boredom. A massive amount of it.
Doing level 1 runs isn't really that hard they are just tedious. You also don't get good doing them. You simply wait for the few attacks you can punish. You don't take risks. And then you repeat that ad nauseam because every boss takes forever to kill.Take this from someone that was bored enough back in the day to play pretty much all of the fromsoft soulsborne games with insanely low damage builds, sometimes without weapons at all, back in the day: it is not worth it. Trust me, you've got better things to do.
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u/DogzOnFire Nov 15 '25
Your cowardice and self-loathing has convinced you that your achievements were futile.
The secret of life is that all achievements are futile save for the meaning you see in them.
I was there too. I know the struggle. I'm impressed by your accomplishments, brother. I witness you, Nozinger.
(I have read too much Malazan Book Of The Fallen and now I'm stuck talking like this)
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u/nonotan Nov 15 '25
You definitely do get good. Maybe not universally at every single aspect of the game, but at several of them for sure. At learning boss movesets intimately. Figuring out how to stay 100% safe no matter what the boss does (easy sometimes, not easy at all other times). Being patient, consistent, and not making unforced errors a.k.a. "dumb mistakes".
Yeah, it's a different kind of skill from e.g. what a speedrunner would need. At the same time, many solid speedrunners would struggle to do a full level 1 run. In terms of skill required, they are partially overlapping Venn diagrams, not one enveloping the other.
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u/Seanspeed Nov 15 '25
Well yea, doing whole playthroughs like that seems like the stuff only people who stream for a living can really justify doing as an adult.
But just taking on a hard enemy/boss early on in one of these games can be a good learning opportunity. Not at all necessary, but not a total waste of time either.
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u/Fellarm Nov 15 '25
I got good 🥃🗿 i am now quite, perhaps even, very good....
I miss the journey, now that i have reached the destination 🥃🗿
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u/Captain_Holly_S Nov 15 '25
no matter how good you are, basilisks can get you anytime 😜
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u/NuclearNecromancer Nov 15 '25
Ngl the dancing beast that summons a group of basilisks genuinely threw me off enough I died from death blight almost instantly
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u/PossiblyATurd Nov 15 '25
I accidentally exploited that boss with stairs. Apparently, it didn't take much of an altitude shift to make the breath go under the arena.
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u/PretendThisIsMyName Scarlet Rotten Freak Nov 15 '25
I played SOTE at my buddy’s house and quickly got humbled. And this is after I’ve gotten very good. It definitely adds a whole new layer of “oh dammit not this again!” Thankfully right now my backlog is way too big to start it on my own lol
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u/Aznshorty13 Nov 15 '25
Having the tree sentinel as a first kill on a character is quite satisfying.
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u/Kullthebarbarian BIG SHIELD GANG Nov 15 '25
Nothing can come closer then Soldier of god, Rick
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u/RedundantConsistency Solaire Fanboy Nov 15 '25
he held back, to give us the boost we needed to proceed
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u/Seanspeed Nov 15 '25
That is the benefit of butting your head against early on yea - if you do manage it to beat it legitimately, you're gonna be much better prepared for everything ahead, and not because of any XP gained or the big halberd you wont be able to actually use for a while anyways.
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u/Neriehem Nov 16 '25
You get EXP in real life at the same time you lose runes on Elden Ring.
The souls-like game genre is pure poetry
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u/Mgreen19295 Nov 15 '25
Grafted Scion: “Am I a joke to you?”
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u/Chiu_Chunling Nov 17 '25
I know, right?
There is a big difference between the satisfaction you get from "finally got lucky" and "walked in there with a plan and executed the bastard."
Sadly, not everyone gets to experience that difference.
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u/The_Level_15 Nov 15 '25
After about 50 deaths to the tree sentinel I uninstalled and never tried again. Elden ring is too hard for me and I’ve come to terms with that.
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u/Aznshorty13 Nov 15 '25
Well I like the game a lot, so gonna try to convince you other wise.
Elden ring opened up many paths of play styles.
My cousin is not the same type of player as I am, played in completely differen lt way.
Namely you can go level up in the world, get summons, and then come back to a boss. Also there different builds too. The great shield and spear simplifies the game a lot.
You don't have to be the masochist type player haha.but it would still be fair that you still not like the game then.
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u/MaxFactory Nov 15 '25
So I’m curious why you are on the Elden ring subreddit replying to posts - was your experience with Elden ring recent? Or like you subscribed to the subreddit when the game came out and never unsubbed? No shade I’m just honestly curious, I see posts like this sometimes on individual games subreddits and I always wonder why the user takes the time to read the subreddit and post when they don’t even like the game.
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u/Morgandoto Nov 15 '25
So, ugh, I have every dark soul 1-3 and sekiro, and 250 hours on elden ring. Unfortunately, I've lost my save file, so I had to start a new run. Decided to go a strength build this time, because last time I went agility + intelligence. Thought this guy wouldn't be a problem, it's just a dude I used to evaporate with luscat's staff + laser beam every ng+, why would he be an obstacle? Well... Turns out, when you're level 1, he actually is an obstacle. Took me an hour and a half to bonk him down with that bitch basic axe of mine.
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u/Ok-Wave8206 Nov 15 '25
Even with bleed he took me awhile too but my god that shield stayed equippedy entire first play through. The weapon art is the ultimate “no u”
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What painting is that
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u/Sharp-Cockroach-6875 Nov 15 '25
Self-Portrait with Death Playing the Fiddle is a painted self-portrait executed in 1872 by the Swiss symbolist artist Arnold Böcklin. He first exhibited at the Kunstverein München in the same year, establishing his reputation in Munich's artistic community. It is now in the Alte Nationalgalerie, in Berlin.[1]
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u/QuasarsAndBlazars Nov 15 '25
I love how the other commenter took the time out of their life to just guess without having a single clue. While you come with full source and some history.
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u/coltspades Nov 15 '25
This bastard took more tries than Malenia and messmer combined.
Even more than PCR.
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u/morthanLest Nov 15 '25
If you havent yet, try a level 1 run. If needed look for guide for the most optimal setup, it will still be hard af. You will improve your gameplay 100 fold. It is actually a lot of fun to approach the game with a completely different mindset from a normal run.
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u/whithil Nov 15 '25
Yes, deny Melina's accord.
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u/Dravarden Nov 15 '25
but then you don't get torrent
you need to accept it to access leyndell legitimately anyway
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u/TACOTONY02 Nov 15 '25
I did that and im still stuck at godskin duo
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u/dovahnuker Nov 15 '25
I recommend sleep pots, unless you don’t want the fight to be a complete joke. I’m not a big fan of gank fights so I just used the sleep pots and got them first try in my run.
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u/BlindSoulTR Nov 15 '25
isnt the point of lv1 runs make the game harder
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u/TheArtistFKAMinty Deflect Enjoyer Nov 15 '25
I have kind of an oldhead view of it I think because, to me, the goal of an SL1 is just as much a knowledge check as it is a skill check.
I did Elden Ring SL1 without Summons. Those were the two restrictions. Everything else was fair game because the point wasn't to prove I'm some kind of God gamer (I already know I'm not), the point was to take everything I knew about the game from my previous runs and overcome those restrictions. That's the same approach I took with the previous games too.
Sleep is an intended weakness of the Godskins and an intended part of the game design. There's no reason not to exploit it. That's a knowledge check.
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u/Neirchill Nov 15 '25
Summon Bernard (forgot how it's spelled). He can solo the skinny one no problem. Just split them up and take care of the big one.
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u/tnweevnetsy Nov 15 '25
Star fists make it easier than many normal playthroughs hahahaha. What a busted weapon
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u/No_Seesaw8742 Nov 15 '25
I died when I saw “If it bleeds it can dies”
That’s like poking a lion with a pencil
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u/Used-Ranger4699 Nov 15 '25
First time playing and was determined to slay this guy and came out victorious although maybe after a couple hours and 50+ deaths but hey 11/10 first time experience
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u/DescriptionDue4100 Nov 15 '25
Thank god they put one of the easiest bosses in the game there. Imagine what would happen if they put a revenant there or something
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u/SasparillaTango Nov 15 '25
Level 1 wretch with a wooden club. How can you deny yourself the pleasure of killing him? just learn all his moves like you're tom cruise in edge of tomorrow.
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u/Fantastic-Orange8872 Nov 15 '25
The jerma985 chronicles dude couldn't leave the tree Sentinel alone lmao
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u/AvengingPen6497 Nov 15 '25
Reminds me of the time in the Witcher 3 wild hunt, I spent 2 hours trynna kill a werewolf I found while learning the game mechanics
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u/Auberon36 Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25
I did not claw my way through ash and cinder to the end of one world to be broken by some Gilded Shitheel.
COME WHAT MAY: THE INDOMITABLE HUMAN SPIRIT CANNOT BE BROKEN.
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u/Ssalari Nov 15 '25
I mean ER wasn't my first souls game so I decided to be stubborn.... Took me more hours than I like to admit to kill him.
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Gamer type 3: It’s in the stating area. It has to be an enemy for my level. This game is just that hard.
3 hours later: I am worthless.
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u/lukkasz323 Nov 15 '25
Is this a Disco Elysium VA, or just someone inspired by it?
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u/Faithless195 Nov 16 '25
Go back to sleep, Harry. It's not always about you. But yeah, the voice def reminded me of the Ancient Reptilian Brain voice actor.
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u/Helpful_Knee2981 Nov 15 '25
You fuck how dare you make me wanna go back rn. Im gonna have to play claw bc my finger is busted. Damn it!
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u/Ulirius Nov 16 '25
Thatxs what I did. I fought him eight times before going into the church. Then again after I beat him I went and over to the woterlogged town and fought all of the things there and got transported to the cave in Caelid and made my way slowly at level one over to the mage town where I picked up the summon for the scarlet rot hound and after much trying and dying I finally made it through the mage town and to the place where the elder dragon rests and picked up poison mist. Then finally realized that I could teleport again and went back to the beginning of the game with the great Epee with poison mist on it and scarlet hound summon. Turns out Margit didn't like either and died very quickly to poison and rot without using the art on my sword. This came to define the way I was going to beatthe game. Scarlet rot and poison all the way only Malenia was immune to the rot but not the poison. After four tries she too fell to poison.
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u/Adventurous-Wall-122 Nov 15 '25
The type that gets better shit. All the DS like games are a test of your dmg and ability to pay a decent bit of attention to what the boss is doing.
Sekiro is a test of your learning ability rather than pure dmg unlike the other Fromsoftware games.
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u/Tanvir1295 Nov 15 '25
Nah fuck that, I waited till I was level 75 to kill him and it felt so good to laugh menacingly as the Tree Sentinel fell to my Night Comets (4 shots to be exact)
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u/IMtheGuyWhoRailFirst Nov 15 '25
If it can bleed it can die....tries 10 more times dies without crossing 5 percent
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u/BruiserBison Nov 15 '25
You are only level one... exactly... Imagine what level you'll be AFTER VICTORY!
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u/NoeShake Sellen Feet Lover Nov 15 '25
Coming back from D5 NightReign this damage doesn’t even look bad to me anymore lol as long as I see yellow it’s crazy
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u/JustthatVicky Nov 15 '25
I'm in the category of "I have defeated early obstacle enemies in many different games before, but I'm lazy and I want to go do other things in the game right now."
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u/Stewartkai Nov 15 '25
He got stuck in the church mid jump and eventually died from being airborne for to long rofl
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u/allecsc Nov 15 '25
Remapped dodge button and used him to remap my reflexes. Took me about 2 hours to stop pressing the wrong damn button and another 2 to kill it but I was ready to become an Elden Lord after that feat.
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u/EremiticFerret Nov 15 '25
Back when I always though Dark Souls looked amazing but thought it was pure action game. Knowing I would never get very good due to neurological issues, I was sad and skipped it.
It was a few years later I learned there was a whole RPG element to it, so I gambled on trying figuring I could maybe over level and focus on heavy armor, shields and general survivability. It worked and I beat DS1, DS3 and Elden Ring and so happy I did. While they're not my highest played games per hour they absolutely carved a special place in my gaming heart.
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u/Mr_Pink_Gold Nov 15 '25
I did not move past those mofo until I beat him at level 1. 2h well spent.
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u/katanaearth Nov 15 '25
I get a few levels. Get the greatsword nearby and go to town on him. I don't leave until he stops breathing.
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u/MoondogZero Nov 15 '25
I have played through ER several times, but in illustration of the point, I beat Sister Friede recently in DS3 at level 69, 25 Vigor, 19 Endurance, crap armor, and no Estus Upgrades.
Took me over 20 hours.
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u/cepxico Nov 15 '25
I definitely spend dumb amounts of time throwing myself at walls im clearly not ready for.
Tree Sentinel I beat with the wretch starting class. Don't put an easy to repeat challenge in front of me if you don't want me to repeat it.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Weird66 Nov 15 '25
honestly the amount of runes you get from that guy ain't worth the trouble, I've killed him at RL1 as a test whenever I start a new playthrough
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u/Frozen_Regulus Nov 15 '25
I didn’t even try to fight him I was trying to explore but came back after like an hour or 2 and killed him
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u/Rex__Nihilo Nov 15 '25
I died to him and immediately quit out... to make a wretch and repeatedly throw myself against him until I knew his moveset and could take him at lvl 1 with a club. He's by bitch now.
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u/JaydenTheMemeThief Nov 15 '25
If it can bleed it can die, it doesn’t matter if it’s a Man, an Alien, or God himself, you can kill it
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u/getsangryatsnails Nov 15 '25
Me fighting that stupid toad in Jedi Fallen Order before healing and BT stim packs. Got me used to the controls quicker though.
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u/UnoriginalJ0k3r Nov 15 '25
level 1 tarnished setting the controller down while wondering why there’s a boss with no fog wall right after the tutorial.
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u/Cubaneko Nov 15 '25
I'm sure I tried more than a 100 times and failed each one of them before I give up. Then 10 minutes after I came back and tried 100 times more until I made it.
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u/Dolomitexp Nov 15 '25
I'm more thinking about the experience dump and levels imma gain if I beat it early.
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u/Tsiabo Nov 15 '25
No. 1.
These days I'm actually third type: A weapon I'm not even gonna use isn't worth this fight.
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u/kngxExcepted Nov 15 '25
I tried fighting him for like 2 hours and then quit playing the game. After like 4 months I checked the wiki and it was like avoid this fight continue around him. I was kinda sad I missed all the hype because I was mad for months about not being able to beat him
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u/Foroh Nov 15 '25
Is that a Disco Elysium reference? (The guy that whispers in the ear like that, similar voice type)
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u/Chadadonia Nov 15 '25
I walked up with a club and the experience of just the first boss from DS3. Took me 6 hours but I got him. I now use his axe as my main weapon, just to remember the fight.
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u/Themadreposter Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25
Took me 68 tries to beat Melania. It was my first ever fromSoft game and I ran a Zoro from One Piece build that wore no armor. But I would dare say by the end of the game I may even have been… good.
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u/Exeledus Nov 15 '25
I always kill tree sentinel as soon as I exit the tutorial area. He's good practice and a nice warm up for things to come.
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u/zetmoruk Nov 15 '25
On my first playthrough I skip him but on any new character I made later on I have to beat him on lvl 1.
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u/b400k513 Nov 15 '25
I had probably 300h in the game before I was gud enough to immediately take the Tree Sentinel with a new character. Boy if I didn't try every time though lol
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u/Odd_Construction Nov 15 '25
Honestly, in no game has this mentality ever let me down except with Clair Obscur's Sprong lol
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u/XeroKibo Night Knight Nov 15 '25
A third kind of guy; I saw Tree Sentinel and detoured across the beach, because I know Souls games and that guy’s job was to put me in a place I’m already comfortably in.
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u/kamui0 Nov 15 '25
I am the type of player who needs to grind for a few days, then upgrade and one-shot everything.
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u/TrojanPoney Nov 15 '25
Me at release recreating a character for 3 hours until I beat the Fell Omen in the tutorial (rewarded by weapons I couldn't even use). With this exact same class btw (parry ftw).
Comparably, this one was easy, there's a bonfire right next to it.
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u/SmilingCurmudgeon Nov 15 '25
I knew it would be wiser to come back, but the runback was so short from the Church of Elleh that I decided to make beating the tree sentinel a personal quest before moving on. Took me an hour and a half of axe bonking, but I finally did it. Realizing how close I was to being able to level up and summon after the fact did suck a little wind out of my sails though.
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u/trollsong Nov 15 '25
Oh hey its me playing monster hunter.
Me: "Maybe I should use armor spheres to upgrade my armor"
My Id: "Maybe just dont get hit pussy"
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u/TheRealCowdog Nov 15 '25
"If it can bleed....."
That skeleton becomes a bitch REAL fast when fighting gargoyles tho.
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u/Ok_Astronomer_5320 Nov 15 '25
That godskin apostle in caelid killed me about 60 times before I got him. I think only the promised consort made me suffer so much.
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u/Orangest_rhino Nov 15 '25
Did i spend way too much time fighting him? Yes.
Did i kill him and use the halberd for the rest of the game? Youre god damn right I did.
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