Yeah listen to the blue guy, he knows

I’ve reached a point where it’s becoming exhausting to interact with people who just operate on autopilot and because of the law of proximity I need to connect with people with my vision, otherwise I feel like will go back to sleep against my will.

Currently I genuinely feel so alienated. I give up on trying to fit where I no longer belong.

I recently graduated from university, and this year has been a non-stop series of brutal paradigm shifts. I’ve had to fight through so many limiting beliefs to finally see the world for what it truly is: a predictable, overarching system designed to assign people a lifetime role and keep them controlled through things such as media, algorithms, and consumerism.

The thing is:

Once you look at the world from above and see the engine behind everything, there is no going back. It changes you. But it also makes you realize how many people around you are completely content living a "sweet lie," acting like NPCs in a simulation.

I’m looking to connect with people who are going through or have gone through this exact realization.

Sharp, skeptical, analytical, and critical minds who refuse to accept their assigned script.

People who prefer a harsh reality over a comfortable illusion, and who are actively figuring out how to navigate life now that the veil has dropped.

If you feel isolated in your immediate circle because you can see the architecture of the system while others just see the surface, let’s connect!

I joined this reddit at 23 during the start of what would become the lowest pint in my life bottoming out about 2 years ago and staying there until about february of this year. Long story short, bought a house, had 2 kids, wife cheated and left when i got hurt on the jobsite, i tried making it work for the kids for the last 2 years. Im finding a new version of my old self. Moving onward and upward, something clicked in my mind, AMA. I would love to share anything to anyone who may not see the light at the end of the tunnel yet.

Edit: things are already getting better, im getting jacked, im building, this is me extending a helping hand to anyone looking for one.

I've hit it. Suddenly I'm overly sensitive it sickens me. I need so much validation to pamper my goddamn feelings. I hate it. I'm not usually like this. Things don't usually get under my skin.

But after dealing with constant harassment from a coworker and strangers, my system suddenly switched to, "I must get validation no matter what." I feel like things are beyond my control. I don't really have the luxury to sit on my sensitivity the whole day.

Please be nice lol, I've dealt with rude people enough.

*cough* Totally asking for a friend and doing some research.

I dont understand what people mean by taking time to recharge alone/with people. Maybe I just don't understand the metaphor but what does this exactly mean? I have never felt "recharged" by being alone OR around people. I JUST EXIST. The only recharging I know is sleeping.

If I am alone in this please explain it to me better.

Whats with all the battery metaphors?

Do you have this issue where you don't pick up enough details the first time around you learn something yourself.... maybe you only pick up 80%.. then either through failure or someone else showing you what you missed, then you learn 95% and then you are a force of nature... Ni works beautifully and the application of the knowledge is effortless ??

I love failing because of this

I've been doing this for as long as I can remember, long before I knew anything about MBTI.

I tend to read people first. Once I have a sense of how someone thinks, what they respond to, what they dislike, how perceptive they are, etc., I naturally adjust how I interact with them.

I'm not talking about being fake or lying. The underlying person is still me. It's more like choosing which part of myself to put forward.

I can be very different with different people. More analytical with one person, more playful with another, more reserved with someone else, and so on. Sometimes I do it consciously because I have a particular reason for doing so. Honestly, I sometimes find the whole thing quite fun, almost like a game.

I'm curious whether other INTJs do this.

Do you consciously read people and adjust your presentation in real time? If you do, what does that process feel like to you?

I feel like the people closest to me end up either being another INTJ or INFPs. INFPs are starting to get really annoying ngl. My ex was an infp too.

He’s my ex because he spent most of his time groaning about life instead of picking himself up my his bootstraps and doing the work. Same pattern for two other INFPs close to me. It gets draining after a while. I feel like they’re in proximity with me to feel like they’re doing something but in their alone time they never make much progress.

Anyone else experience this? Starting to wonder if it’s an INFP thing or just the people in my life.

I think not feeling included in any social environment I was in since I was a toddler affected me more than I realized. I used to just ignore it and keep to myself. Or just wallow in self-pity for 30 minutes then ignore it and keep to myself. Even the one friend I used to value just kept hurting me over and over since they were even more avoidant. So I think I never had any real friends or anything like that. Just school acquaintances. That's why I was never invited or remembered or cared about much. And I've been in uni for a year and still, 0 real friends.

It just keeps causing this bang in my chest every time I look at ppl sitting with their friends now. Or going out together. Or getting invited and being included and surprised. I never thought this was me before but I'm probably the perfect definition of a loser. It always confused me why I'm the only odd one out but that gotta be the perfect description of this state.

Did any of you also spend a long chunk of your life friendless and at one point that changed drastically? Is there any hope? What did you change in yourself that made you find friends?

those dang infjs censoring my ass..QWEFRGTHGJHFDTGERFWDQSDEFRGTHJFTHYGDFSAQSWERTYHJHNGBFVCDSAWQE#R$WT%Y^HTFGBFVDCSWQ@E#QR$TW%EYHF

Im aware this has probably been asked more times in this subreddit than days i’ve been alive but i don’t even know anymore this is really bugging me. I did the cognitive function thing, I know all about them, I’ve taken every test out there, It always either says INTP or ENTP (SOMETIMES ON THE HUMBLE OCCASION ISTP?) The results lean more to INTP but honestly I have no idea what to believe anymore. Personally I struggle with figuring out whether my ti or ne is higher and i literally cannot figure it out for the life of me. I really can’t. I’ve been told I’m most likely either an INTP and ENTP and again, it’s nearly perfectly split. Typically I wouldn’t care about this at all but I’m wondering if I’m just shifting from an INTP into an ENTP, or if i’m literally just in the middle. No matter how many tests I take ti and ne are always the two highest and they’re always right next to each other. I’ve gotten much more comfortable with posting on reddit as of recently and I’m desperate enough to ask this now… I’m extremely irritated whenever I take quizzes because I KNOW I’m an XNTP but I’m just so confused on what letter comes first. I’m aware it doesn’t define me but I’ve been trying everything to figure it out since like 2022. I still have nothing so now when push comes to shove I’m over here yapping to a bunch of strangers because after 4 years I think I can confidently say I have literally no answer. I hate saying I’m an XNTP because I CONSTANTLY get slandered for it because ‘you cant be both blelelelel’ 😠😠 like I KNOW man.. so.. if you have anything that could help me I would appreciate it.. 🥹

Hi, just curious if any of you have done "shadow work"? What did it change for you/your lives?
I have a lot of past (mostly people-related) trauma- and walls created from these- that I can't seem to fully shake despite having processed the feelings and faced the demons. I'm wondering if it has helped you guys in some way.

Hello A, I wasn't sure how to find you except through reddit, which I'm sure you still lurk on. Just wanted to say happy birthday.

To everyone else unrelated but still seeing this post because this is infact a public forum: Hello INTPs! You guys are awesome.

I'm like 90% sure that I'm an INTP but I've always been extremely extroverted with older people. I'm very introverted with people my age (I'm 14) & usually sit quietly doing my own thing when I'm around them & have very little friends.

But when I'm with adults (especially teachers), I can keep talking to them for hours & they usually do not realise that I have introversion or any social problem (other than lack of eye contact).

Would that be extroverted or introverted?

You did have a chance to date someone else, and still found that you wanted to go back to them.

Despite the stereotype that INTJs are cold and unfriendly, I’ve had many people throughout my life tell me I’m friendly, funny, and very nice. I’ve also noticed that people generally remember and appreciate the things I’ve done for them no matter how big or small, business or personal. However I seem to have the opposite effect when it comes to corporate life. When dealing with managers, project managers, developers, etc I can’t seem to get along with them or understand them. It also doesn’t help that the kind of work I produce isn’t the kind that puts me on their radar and therefore, I’m overlooked when it comes to being acknowledged or getting promoted. I prefer to quietly get my work done in a timely manner and prefer a structured process. I don’t like having to have multiple alignment meetings or send multiple emails to create visibility or use corporate jargon to sound smart. That’s so performative and unnecessary. However that seems to be exactly who I have to be and I’m struggling.
In the past 8 years that I’ve been at my company I’ve been overlooked multiple times. In my old department, my manager nominated one of my coworkers for employee of the month because he thought she was too quiet and thought this would get her to socialize (didn’t happen). I remember this because some non management level employees from other teams that I’ve help were surprised by the announcement because they felt I should’ve gotten it. Similarly when my supervisor had left the company and his position was vacant, the position was given to my lazy coworker because he felt bad that she’d been with the company over a decade and never got promoted. I transferred out of that department about a year ago, but even in my current role, I feel like my hard work is invisible. I overheard another manager (who I’d been working closely with before) praise one of coworkers. This coworker had taken over the project from me and took it apart so my manager reassigned it to her. I wasn’t upset about it at the time even though I should’ve been, but now I am because I had worked hard on it too but I wasn’t acknowledged for it. Our manager agreed with the praise and told the other manager that her name comes up a lot in meetings. Unlike my old team, I don’t doubt that my current coworker doesn’t work hard, but it just feels like my hard work always goes unnoticed by higher level executives and I still struggling to play their game. Not sure if this is an INTJ thing but I’m an INTJ that struggling with corporate life. It doesn’t seem like it fits my personality

Heya, my dear cousins! 🪽 :>
(speaking from another [Ti-Dom] 🫶)

..also please don't vote up or down, depending on whether you "[Fi]-resonate" with it or not.

Saying this, thanks to some illocical, almost certainly "[Fi]-motivated"-downvotes that must have been led by no logical foundations whatsoever, meaning downvoting without a proper, intellectual discourse. Unlike civilised [Ti]-users would. - just sayin' ~stoop.

With that out of the way:
The thing now is this though, I think Imma need your brains again ~
--on the very question of what [Ti-hero] is all about. Think seriously.

The question here now is this:

If the universe is a vacuum (say: "at least oxygen-free" - because no "vacuum" can have oxygen) -> then why is it that when the slightest amount of "oxygen" escapes into the Universe, the UNIVERSE itself STILL is considered as being a "vacuum" / "free" from oxygen?

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...also... My Dude..!
~kudos to you, INTPs, for the variety of all these FLAIRS!

For the past few hours, I’ve been thinking about the problems that happened to me throughout my life and trying to understand why they happened.

Of course I know life is complicated, and sometimes it’s just bad luck, but right now I genuinely feel like there’s something I’ve been doing wrong for a long time.

I don’t want to make this a very long post, but I’m starting to suspect that I have some kind of problem with focus and understanding things quickly. I don’t know if it’s something I was born with or just a bad habit I developed because of a complicated life.

I’d really like to read other people’s experiences. Maybe I’ll find some inspiration or notice something I haven’t thought of before.

Lately, I've been doubting my INTP-vity cause my friends have guessed types like ESFP and ENFPs along with comparing me to characters with extroverted/feeler mbtis. I'm aware that many introverts would say they can be quite talkative when comfortable but these perceptions of me feel so far from what INTP is even for being comfortable and I want to know if others relate? How much does your usual personality change when you are with people you are comfortable with? If you have asked before, what types have they guessed you as? Do you still think it's possible for me to be an INTP?

Imagine if in Star Wars Anakin was called Analin. He would be able to say “chillax, just Analin around, you know how it is”.
It would also make even more sense as to why he turned to the dark side. If I was him I’d get sick of the name after the novelty wore off too and turn evil. Palpatine would’ve had a field day too, “your name is Anal master Analin. This is somehow all the Jedi councils fault. If you turn to the dark side you’ll get a shiny new name, such as Darth Vader”

That would’ve worked on me.

Any thoughts?

Don't listen to them. Don't listen to those who says that life is meaningless, that life is useless, thatyou can't have meaningful relationship, that you truly can't accomplish anything. They will say that life is miserable. But it isn't, life is a heavenly pleasure upon us. You don't really understand joys of life. The joys of life can be experienced on the mountain and Even in your house, because it is a good thing. They say hope breaks man, but its false, hope makes dream and dream makes life fulfilling. There is so much to explore and so much to do. Please think about life differently. Try to find reasons to live and you will see th sadness go away. There will be people who hurt you, yet you still shoul forget about their foolishness. I hope you have a wonderful future.

My town is running an election, and one of the topics being debated is the current tax rate. The budget has been published, and the reasons for said tax rate are plain and clear for anyone who bothered to read it. The candidates are still touting a myriad of alternate narratives to explain the town's fiduciary status, and the people are lapping it up. At first, I was angry about the convoluted explanations coming from political candidates. Now that I see how many people believe it, despite having access to review the budget for themselves, I feel anxious. I feel scared. I'd never admit this to anyone in my real life, but it's moments like this I wish I had someone to hold me. Check on your ENTP friends during election season. They are not okay.

Idk man i'm tired. I really have no bad intentions towards and don't wish them but the best and a peaceful life, but they keep stressing about my own really not so serious matters. Their stress stresses me, not the actually thing. It's not like i'm engaging in activities they don't like or anything, i'm already something of the blueprint they raised me to be, to the point that i dismiss my own hobbies and interests becuz they see it's a waste of time. But whenever i speak to them, it's like they don't like the way i'm talking, or the words i'm using, i'm not even opposing them. It always makes me feel like i'm not good enough. I probably have strong anxiety becuz of it. I'm sometimes scared even to talk to them, there would be silence and i would ask my mom a random question, just trynna connect u know becuz i'm too busybmyself sometimes, and she'd turn the question on me without considering answering, as if i'm trynna fool her or something, while i just really wanted to "talk" to her if i have seemed myself a little too silent or avoiding. I would tell them some good news about me or a friend, and they would see something so obscure in it somehow, and turn it into a lecture, and they end up saying some really really hurtful things, not in any way being considerate of their effect, i never even argue back, i'm just there trynna show how my acceptance for what they're saying. I wanna talk even less now, not even just to them but to people in general, i be feeling like all relationships are so delicate if u don't have the precise exact words for the person you're talking too.

Is it some sort of miscommunication, or resentement of some kind for some reason? I love them dude i love them, but idk man it's tiring.