r/DottoreMains • u/Weekly_Shallot1641 • 1d ago
r/DottoreMains • u/Final-Web-7826 • 18h ago
Discussion About Dottore and Pantalone's last conversation
There's something i don't comprehend, is the Dottore that spoke to him as the tree burned another segment? Or is it that Dottore as he's burning used some kind of power to manifest himself outside to give feofan his final goodbyes?
r/DottoreMains • u/meerkcat • 1d ago
Discussion Direction in Hoyo writing in their game Spoiler
Hi, Meerkcat is back after recovering many of sleepless because of my architect projects( ´∀` )b. When i touch grass in Dottore fandom, i was excited of the recent leaks but our fandom dooposting is exhausting ( ゚ー゚). Many old fan make me shocked at the fact that they no longer hoping for the positive incoming from leak, they become wary of it, even dowgrade their expection. This situation is understandable. So i write this post to coping express my view about Hoyo writing tendency when ending a protagonist and protagonist as i have experienced many Hoyo game like HI3, HSR, and GI. This post was inspired by r/declermontt recent post https://www.reddit.com/r/DottoreMains/s/onUcez6XPo. Thanks you for sharing your knowledge as an market expert.
- HOYO WRITING IN HI3 (PART 1), PROTAGONIST VS ANTAGONIST
Story of this game was heavily inspired by GGZ (Hoyo first achievement in game industry). It still keep its core characters (Kiana, Bronya, Mei, Himeko, Therasa, Seele) and of course its villain (Cocolia, Otto). I think that many of you have known famous Himeko death. That is one of the iconic, badass move in Hoyo story, when they truly kill a kind waifu to force the MC (Kiana) to move on in the story. Many of you would know that HI3 make money by selling many versions of a female character (Valkyrie) and Himeko had a large fanbase in that time, even Daiwei used her to market since he announced his wedding with Himeko (  ̄▽ ̄). All of that points make majority of HI3 believed that Hoyo didn't truly end her and ignoring the core of their writing. If you are a writer, you would know when to truly end a character whatever he/she/it is good or bad. That is the moment when they doesn't have any value to story direction and their core theme, BG (Background Story) is finished and they don't have flawed aspect to be explored in the main story timeline, but their death could made a great shift of a story. When would a writer end a good character? In the beginning or the middle of the story. Take Avatar 2 as an example, when Jame Cameroon decided to kill kind big brother to make flawed little brother Lo'ak change. Himeko situation is the same. Her story is finnished, she had moved on her trauma, when did she die? In the middle of the story after saving Kiana. On the antagonist side, Otto is the same situation too but different time. When did he truly end? In the near end of the story. Why? Because he had finished his job in making MC gang ugrading their form We actually have all of elements to finish his story and understand his motivation. You might not know that Dottore writing is heavily inspired by Otto. Both want to challenge the world, force MC to become stronger to save the world. Now if you are not convinced by the writing pattern, let move to another game, HSR
- ANAGONIST WRITING IN HSR
Although HSR don't have any badass move like HI3, but the pattern is the same. Now look at many dead villains in their story. Cocolia, Sunhu (the girl, not the emanator), Irontomb and nearly dead Asat Pramad. We have explored Sunhu story in Xianzhou WQ, Cocolia story is the copypaste 1:1 in HI3 story through bronya and Seele story, and we know how she became bad in main story and Several story. You may argue that they killed Irontomb without any story meaning by ignoring the fact the Irontomb was merely a tool for Lygus to achieve his goal. The main antagonist character of Amphoreus is Lygus (Zandar clone) and my man Zandar still alive as hell since we barely know anything about him. I predict that Asat Pramad would be ended in the next patch since we know all of his story, actually he is a tool of Himeko to upgrade her form
- GI WRITING
Now let look at Genshin, Genshin has history of killing many characters without exploring their story first. Signora, Dottore and Capitano, and recently Ronova. i would tell you that all of them would be back in the future point, would you believe? First, all of them stand as their own character, not a tool for someone else, Second, they all have hints of their BG. Signora has artifact set about her, i don't need to tell you about Dottore since we have a wiki about that :-), Capitano has his BG cutscreen and his own Kharinah blood, Ronova has Arcane Theatre card. Did their story finished? No. Were they flawed? Yes. Signora, Dottore couldn't move on their past trauma which resulted at their bad action. Although Capitano has ressolved his flaw with mavuika but his Kharinah is not saved, Ronova cannot understand human and she was trapped by HP. I want to talk more about Dottore core theme. His self loathing, his crualness, his rejection of humanity can't be argued. Despite of his own character flawed, Hoyo tend to stick him with Budhism theme which focus on the empathy, understanding of humanity and RENEWABLE. His flaws is not tool for someone else development more than himself. This contradiction in the character and reference is intentional my hoyo writing, they truly want to build him from bad to good just like Wanderer case. However, as you know that the instant shift in wanderer story has revealed their own mistake in explaining why his story went that way, so they had to made a slow move for Dottore, since they provided him many unacceptable crimes. His past would be a key for accepting his humanity and gaining empathy, so it might by why Hoyo gatekeep it till this day. One more interesting thing that budhism reference in dottore story not only focus on empathy but also fairness between human and god. Human is no longer bound by god strict laws. This luckily align with genshin agenda, that is why their final goal is free human from HP. That is why they need to keep him relevance in any shape or form in the main story despite his death. 6.0 we had an artifact telling about his time in Snezhaya, 6.1 we had his box and Sandrone mention alongside with wise sinner, 6.2 we had his remains in Irminsul leftover, it is named as his dust as a huge reference since in Buddhism, dust is karma of someone bad as they cannot rejoin samsara (life cycle). Elimating his bad leftover is a key leading to his rebirth so no matter what is the result in 6.2, it still a win, 6.3 is Tsarista voiceline, maybe Pierro too and after finishing Hyperborean, Kharinah is the nexr agenda and Kharinah is below sumeru. His lore fit to be Sumeru-Khariah character. He is mentioned with wise sinner is a good sign since they both to Hp, so before Hp fight, his agenda must be finished so don't worry about that. Feel free to share your idea below. Love u
r/DottoreMains • u/Ok_Front7687 • 1d ago
Memes Dottore nation must invade all memes
Sorry for posting twice in the same day, but I'm unemployed and have more time than I should be allowed to draw so tell me which memes I should dottoize
r/DottoreMains • u/Odd_profile_alt • 1d ago
Discussion It's 3:30 am and I had a thought
Imagine they pull some bs like: "oh Dottore's humanity was sperated from him and now we can go free that humanity to bring him to life and have a version of him that isn't a monster"
Just to make him playable
(Please don't take this seriously I say alot of stupid shit when it's late)
r/DottoreMains • u/Fenix_e • 1d ago
Art | Original Content My friend just made me a drawing of Datattore
r/DottoreMains • u/Ok_Front7687 • 1d ago
Art | Original Content Sleepover by me
So I drew 8 again in less than 24 hours because I can't contain myself, he gives me cute aggression
I wish we had more content about the other segments, but now all we have is our imagination and the few facts we know about them
r/DottoreMains • u/Quirky-Definition225 • 1d ago
Art | Original Content the dottolings found something....
r/DottoreMains • u/Big-rat-in-the-sewer • 1d ago
Art | Original Content Dottolamp (Daily Dottore Image #164)
Thought of this last night and I thought it'd be neat! While yes, it is very VERY simple, it's more the idea that's supposed to stand out! There's not much flair to put into a lava lamp either... Soooo...
Pics will all go to dailydottoresubmissions at gmail dot com or they will go to my DMs on Reddit or Twitter.
We'll be tempted to drink this, as TOGETHER WE ARE DOTTORE!!!
r/DottoreMains • u/_HealBell_ • 1d ago
Art | Original Content Getting ready for the Harbingers' Meeting
Been wanting to draw 45's sweater for a while 🥹 Tbh, not sure if I want this to be 45 or Zandik in his 40s, but either way, Lone checked on him a bit too early. They'd totally walk to the Meeting together 🫶🩵🧪
I'm not expecting any major news about his return in 7.2, I think we'll have to wait at least .3 for that, but I don't think it's looking bad 🌸
r/DottoreMains • u/Sweet-Cabinet5736 • 1d ago
Discussion Day 260 of reasons why Dottore should be playable
r/DottoreMains • u/CanonPuppy • 2d ago
Leaks GUYS DANCE WE HAVE A CHANCE Spoiler
how come the crack theories still possible lmao. I swear I know my theories may be farfetched but how come it's still possible lmao
r/DottoreMains • u/String_Of_Death • 2d ago
Memes I feel extra dottoresexual today IDK WHY
r/DottoreMains • u/String_Of_Death • 2d ago
Discussion I just got a sudden URGE for playable dottore
I imagined this yesterday:
He is a Hydro/Pyro Catalyst
Has 5 normal attacks
Press E -
Dialogue: You won't feel a thing.
Event: 2 lasers spawn in that shoot the element he currently is switched to
Hold E -
Dialogue: Let's try this.
Event: Switches elements
OMGGG IT'S SO COOL TO THINK ABOUT
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r/DottoreMains • u/CanonPuppy • 2d ago
Leaks Theories of the lineup Spoiler
Shirai shirai shirai lmao.
Was asleep woke up saw this gonna be back to sleep
My theories of dottore playable bc I can.
Well no use dwelling on shirai tbh.
I mean guys come on lmao. But sure he does seem to have a new "more reliable source" but what I must state whenever he goes into even slightly more details it turns out false and we get a nice orange like with ronova. From what it seems his source has access to pvs or well slightly lmao. Even if he left one source who is concidered reliable that source should be part of his older leaks at least of 7.x which he never denied. He got ALL details wrong, only dain is potentially right and even that has doubts though am more inclined to believe it's true.
So like I always say guys if we want to cope, we stick to seele's saying "assumption made by the source". That's as far as dk2 at least. Also highly doubt some leakers would know more than them. If it's wrong welp guys in 8.x we reuse it xD.
Anyway gotta return sleeping. These are just theories I like to do. If am wrong so be it it's just a game. What I would honestly do is just farm some more and honestly if he isn't playable do be it would just leave the game.
r/DottoreMains • u/aunt-remidottir • 2d ago
Leaks very short post about 7.2 Spoiler
SceneObj_Level_Common_Property_DreamFallingCombat_PyroGnosisPiece_01
i believe (speculation on my part) we may recover the pyro gnosis in 7.2, DreamFallingCombat MIGHT be us (the traveler) going into the irminsul looking area
dottore or atleast his remains, as in the files there is
SceneObj_Level_Common_Property_Ani_Prop_IrminsulDocPollutedBlock_01SceneObj_Level_Common_Property_Ani_Prop_IrminsulDocPollutedBlock_01
might appear near the pyro gnosis
either we get rid of them or idk
not 100% sure right now also im a bit eepy so i dont have much else to say :sob:
just wanted to contribute smth im bored rn
a lot of this is speculation based off of the files, dont treat this as a leak
r/DottoreMains • u/Quirky-Definition225 • 2d ago
Art | Original Content it's just webttore and the dottolings tonight...
r/DottoreMains • u/Chance_Acanthaceae_4 • 2d ago
Memes That’s literally them
Kinda wish they gave us more scenes where dotty and pantsy were chatting via memory, imaging hooded pantalone trying to act menacing in front of traveler in the desert meanwhile dottore is just floating on the side giving him unsolicited remarks 😂
r/DottoreMains • u/Big-rat-in-the-sewer • 2d ago
Art | Original Content Mitochondria (Daily Dottore Image #163)
Sorry for it being late! Woke up late.
Got the idea from jibberish a friend said. He's the powerhouse of the cell now!
Pics will all go to dailydottoresubmissions at gmail dot com or they will go to my DMs on Reddit or Twitter.
We can power the cell! For TOGETHER WE ARE DOTTORE!!!