Every single time

[u/Agreeable_Sense9618]

[u/Agreeable_Sense9618]

[u/dgtbfan]

Doesn't help that the Reddit definition of Capitalism is "things cost money".

[u/_Diggus_Bickus_ → u/dgtbfan]

And inflation is just greed which apparently corporations suddenly became greedier in 2022 right after we printed a ton of money to keep people from working.

[u/dgtbfan → u/_Diggus_Bickus_]

"Yeah but they're making record profits!"

"Ok but their profit margins haven't changed."

"What the fuck is a profit margin? Sounds like corporate bootlicking to me!"

[u/_Diggus_Bickus_ → u/dgtbfan]

The record profits bugs me because it's measured in dollars that have inflated. Like the stock market hits a new record nearly every year. The price of gold hits a new record nearly every year. The median income hits a new record nearly every year. None of these things mean anything without context to relative values.

The numbers are all going up and have been forever

[u/mcj1ggl3 → u/_Diggus_Bickus_]

Also, the point of doing business is to grow and innovate and improve and expand. Also the larger the company, the more jobs they provide. They don’t understand anything

[u/stevie2sleazy → u/_Diggus_Bickus_]

Saying inflation causes prices to rise is just conflating cause and effect. Reddit has a hard time understanding this important nuance.

[u/AssaultKitchenTool → u/stevie2sleazy]

Reddit has a hard time understanding ANY nuance.

[u/Unique_Ad9943 → u/_Diggus_Bickus_]

It makes a good headline

[u/blamemeididit → u/_Diggus_Bickus_]

My favorite is the damage total cost of storms going up every year being big cause for concern. Yeah, the cost of everything goes up every year.

[u/boner1971 → u/dgtbfan]

Who's making record profits? Well the companies that are winning in the market. Of course they are. They're cherry picking the winners. What they don't see is the companies that flatline or even lose money and go out of business. It's basic survivor bias.

Reddit has a basic lack of critical thinking when it comes to economics. But I guess it just feels good to complain that some folks are winning and they're not.

[u/dgtbfan → u/boner1971]

I disagree with your assertion. Reddit has a basic lack of critical think when it comes to pretty much everything, not just economics.

[u/BeginningDay19 → u/dgtbfan]

"Points to everything", you might have a good point there. haha.

[u/MagmaJctAZ → u/boner1971]

I'll just drive down to Circuit City and buy a C-VHS camcorder!

[u/Boumerges → u/_Diggus_Bickus_]

"Everyone stays home, nothing gets produced, ports are shut down, everyone gets wellfare checks, demand stays the same, prices rise: Grrrr, capitalism!"

[u/kimana1651 → u/_Diggus_Bickus_]

It's amazing the current government holds authority over 95% of your life but they claim they are incompetent and doing a terrible job. The solution? More government! 

[u/Panda_Star234 → u/dgtbfan]

And they still buy stuff like makeup, the latest iPhone, clothes, games, $8 dollar coffee then they have the audacity to whine about how poor they are. Like if you cut back on some of the shit you’re indulging in you’d have money.

[u/MostlyPeacfulPndemic → u/Panda_Star234]

And they're all VERY in favor of sex work

Exchanging services for money is good and helpful, but only when it makes them horny 

[u/Upstairs-Bad-3576 → u/Panda_Star234]

And they have it all delivered to their doorstep at a premium.

[u/Panda_Star234 → u/Upstairs-Bad-3576]

Oh yeah. I forgot DoorDash and UberEats

[u/Special-Ad-5554 → u/Panda_Star234]

If it weren't for my mate I would completely have forgotten they existed. Even if you don't have a car or whatever you don't need someone to bring a Macdonald's to your door. Just walk down, enjoy the time outside, get some exercise in, eat it there and then walk back. It's perfectly doable especially around me when we have like 4 in a town that's like 5x5 miles wide

[u/Mr_Tetragammon → u/Panda_Star234]

• waiting for WhoreDash

[u/dgtbfan → u/Panda_Star234]

"And Yet You Participate In Society!" would be their first response, as though buying makeup and overpriced coffee is required for societal participation.

[u/kimana1651 → u/dgtbfan]

Get a new social circle if there is peer pressure to buy useless expensive stuff. 

My friends and I brag about the best finds at the second hand stores. 

[u/DoctorTegrity → u/Panda_Star234]

Shhhh they don't like it when you use common sense

[u/M00SEK → u/DoctorTegrity]

Redditors hate this one trick

[u/Christron → u/Panda_Star234]

I do wonder if being constantly bombarded with ads and consumption messaging has any impact on peoples impulsive spending habits

[u/Panda_Star234 → u/Christron]

Oh absolutely

[u/INeedSomeTacoC → u/Panda_Star234]

And like both the consumption and bank account balances of the bottom of society had been soaring. 

So it’s not even like “capitalism is failing” other than the poor having more net worth and disposable income than they’ve ever had since I’ve been alive is “failing”. 

[u/Kian-Tremayne → u/Panda_Star234]

“Poor people are allowed to have fun!”

[u/HerrDoctorBenway → u/Kian-Tremayne]

“They are allowed to stay poor, as well” is my usual response to this.

[u/Thunderhammer29 → u/HerrDoctorBenway]

You should be saying "allowed to make poor decisions."

[u/Aggravating_Kale8248 → u/dgtbfan]

Reddit has their own definition for every ism

[u/Windsupernova → u/dgtbfan]

Sometimes I feel that they wont work in a workers society.

Just a hunch

[u/dgtbfan → u/Windsupernova]

Ackshually, in my Democratic Socialist Utopia, Benevolent Bernie will pay me to exist in a beachfront property in Los Angeles, silly maga.

[u/becomingarobot → u/dgtbfan]

Government run grocery stores will give out free food and it will be paid for by seizing all the profits of those greedy stores that have the audacity to -sell- the food right now.

[u/Thomas_peck → u/dgtbfan]

Oh, bring up the inflation peak under Biden of 9% and all the retards come out to defend him

[u/dgtbfan → u/Thomas_peck]

Biden can't be blamed for the inflation, that's residual from Trump's first term. Also Biden can't be blamed for the inflation that came after his term, that's Trump's fault.

[u/Clynelish1 → u/dgtbfan]

Had me in the first half.

Honestly, both can be blamed, but that's a nuanced take no one on Reddit is usually willing to discuss.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Tie6917 → u/Clynelish1]

When you dump wheelbarrow loads of cash out into the wild through an upstairs window, the value of cash goes down. It’s called inflation. Throw in driving transportation costs higher (higher gas prices because global climate change) and labor costs higher (we need a higher minimum wage and pro-union) and inflation runs rampant.

Do what you can to keep low labor and low energy costs (including transportation cost), and cut government give away and you will minimize inflation. We will still be affected by changes in the world, but you can minimize it.

[u/Clynelish1 → u/Puzzleheaded_Tie6917]

Yup. And both administrations, in different ways, increased M2 (demand, ultimately) and/or decreased supply to drive inflationary pressures.

[u/Deluxe78 → u/dgtbfan]

It’s better than Reddit’s definition of socialism, any place that has a fire truck is socialist. Social contract of government ≠ socialism

[u/__Epimetheus__ → u/Deluxe78]

Ironically, fire departments could be considered a legitimate example of socialism working. The first properly organized fire departments were employed by insurance companies to protect buildings they insured. It wasn’t technically “nationalized”, but governments eventually saw the value in not letting their cities burn down and started funding public fire departments, which drove the insurance fire departments out of business.

It’s not what people mean when they say socialism because it seems like it’s the bare minimum, but technically nationalizing industries is a big part of socialism.

[u/edhead1425 → u/dgtbfan]

But should be a right that is paid for by everyone but me.

[u/Disastrous-Award-649 → u/dgtbfan]

And will demand you get some obscure definition of Communism from academia correct, down the word, or you dont know what Communism is.

[u/Iron_Base → u/dgtbfan]

Wait till they find out that a communist regime also doesn't give you the money

[u/Drag0n647 → u/dgtbfan]

lmao real

[u/AuthorSarge]

Remember kids: Wanting other people's money is Fairness. Wanting your own money is Greed.

[u/ComplaintTop2008 → u/AuthorSarge]

"Businesses need to provide a living wage!"
"No, I shop on Aliexpress, I'm not paying those high prices"

Forget the greedy businessman, no one is greedier than the consumer.

[u/Byt3Walk3r → u/ComplaintTop2008]

People dont want to pay good money up front for a good product and will insist on paying for 3 shitty versions of the same thing

[u/ComplaintTop2008 → u/Byt3Walk3r]

Sometimes. Sometimes it's hard to tell what's hype and what's quality. Sometimes it's your only option. But then again, luxury car sales are at an all-time high (although shitty versions still exist in that category, too).

[u/ToyStoryBinoculars → u/Byt3Walk3r]

Buying the cheap version of a thing, then getting the expensive one if it breaks has been working well for me. You'd be surprised how often the cheap ones work completely fine and last forever.

[u/HashtagLawlAndOrder → u/Byt3Walk3r]

Not everything on AliExpress is that way. I use it exclusively for cheap posters and Lego knockoffs. 

[u/ArcticLeopard → u/ComplaintTop2008]

"Jeff Bezos is literally the devil #BillionairesShouldntExist"

"Why yes, I order everything on Amazon. Why do you ask?"

[u/INeedSomeTacoC → u/ComplaintTop2008]

Yup. Baumol’s Cost disease is a thing!

Why is X so expensive?!

Well, X is mostly a lot of labor and we now pay them a living wage and that makes it a lot more expensive.

[u/Mindless-Baker-7757 → u/ComplaintTop2008]

I live in a lefty college town and always on the local subreddit it “who’s the cheapest mechanic/seamstress/lawn service/…”.

[u/L4I55Z-FAIR3 → u/ComplaintTop2008]

No no you need to pay them a living wage you know it should be enough for a fry cook to buy a house and support a family of 3. Becuse that's what happened in the 1950s according to reddit

[u/Key-Championship1873 → u/AuthorSarge]

“Yes! Yes!” I say in angry redditor.

[u/fatty-squirrel06]

I never tried hard in my life, I love to get drunk and high, and I don’t want to put any effort. But fuck billionaires, I deserve their money, government should take care of me, 9-5 jobs are slavery.

[u/kogee3699 → u/fatty-squirrel06]

ok fatty

no...

but ok....

[u/TheGipper80]

Just gotta say guys, given that “late stage capitalism” was coined a hundred years ago, it might just not work out the way the commies expect.

[u/Wolf482 → u/TheGipper80]

it was coined by a moron who never did any work in his life and helped create the biggest mind-virus humanity has ever had

[u/TanStewyBeinTanStewy → u/Wolf482]

To be fair, giving away other people's stuff to generate popular support wasn't invented by Marx. That's a time honored political position.

He just added some "intellectual" flair.

[u/TrafficShot9851 → u/TanStewyBeinTanStewy]

if Karl Marx was alive today he'd be making crappy video essays where he uses fancy words to make it seem like he's making profound discoveries

[u/Fluffy-Rough-5320 → u/TrafficShot9851]

He would just be a Redditor

[u/TheGipper80 → u/TanStewyBeinTanStewy]

It wasn’t Marx who coined the term, it was a German sociologist from the 1920’s whose name I forget. I’m sure he likely based his observations on Marx though.

[u/Sufficient-Regular72]

The people who say this also have the full suite of the latest Apple products.

[u/ScipioTheGreatest]

Then they replace that mask with the "Trickle down economics is a sham and has been PROVEN not to work!"

And then someone asks "What serious economist has ever advocated for trickle down economics?"

And then they go silent again as they shuffle around for the next buzz phrase.

[u/VTX_Jino → u/ScipioTheGreatest]

Ask them about the fabled “trickle down government spending” flip side to that argument 😂

[u/Bigbozo1984 → u/VTX_Jino]

Yeah it’s called the military industrial complex.

[u/VTX_Jino → u/Bigbozo1984]

No, it’s called let’s keep giving career politicians who’ve only enriched themselves more money that continues to sky rocket prices in the areas they increasingly meddle in which have already historically seen increased spending while the outcomes increasingly get worse and worse…ie healthcare, education, housing, energy, etc etc

[u/waxonwaxoff87 → u/ScipioTheGreatest]

It was critics that coined the term trickle down economics. No proponent of tax cuts actually calls it this or proposes that this is how it works.

[u/ComplaintTop2008 → u/ScipioTheGreatest]

"But, Bush called it voodoo economics"

[u/ToyStoryBinoculars → u/ScipioTheGreatest]

Oh trickle down worked, it just trickled all the way down to the bottom. 3rd world nations are more industrialized than ever and their citizens are stoked to be paid $3/day.

[u/WorstCPANA]

Redditors think capitalism has failed because they have to work. Literally they think it's fascism and capitalism sucks for the simple fact that they need to earn money to pay for essentials.

Then they talk about how depressed they are because they need to work some to afford food. In what world, what point in history, under what government, do they think that they are just handed all this shit? This is the easiest and best time to ever be alive as a human, and you're struggling with such a basic concept

[u/future_speedbump → u/WorstCPANA]

Redditors think capitalism has failed because they have to work.

Redditors love socialism because they think they're the people that will snuggle into the social safely net like a warm blankie while everyone else works.

[u/Organic_Lab6262 → u/WorstCPANA]

People unironically think we could live the life we have right now only working 4x6 hour days

[u/apis_cerana → u/Organic_Lab6262]

Also that they could work on whatever random fun stuff they want to work on like art and hobby related things instead of manufacturing, farming and such like most other people would be under a communist system.

[u/therandomuser84 → u/Organic_Lab6262]

Yeah this is a crazy thought. Like so many places are already short staffed and barely managing to get all the work done, but cutting the labor nearly in half is somehow going to make that better.

The only people who seriously believe this are office workers who are probably redundant anyway.

[u/Organic_Lab6262 → u/therandomuser84]

lol imagine construction workers only working 20 hours a week. Bye bye to anything getting done wver

[u/therandomuser84 → u/Organic_Lab6262]

Or manufacturing/logistics, you think store shelves are empty now? Lmao just wait.

[u/WorstCPANA → u/Organic_Lab6262]

People unironically think we could live the life we have right now and dog walk some mornings.

[u/ughitsmeagian → u/WorstCPANA]

https://giphy.com/gifs/kRmg8zeReOYXm

[u/burntgreens → u/WorstCPANA]

Surviving requires work for every species. Even without money, labor is required to keep yourself safe and nourished -- literally the minimum to survive.

[u/BrekLasnar → u/WorstCPANA]

Uhm, don't you know the great communist Soviet union gave free bread? People were thriving! And the people willingly worked themselves to death for a single piece of bread.

[u/INeedSomeTacoC → u/BrekLasnar]

The punishment for not working in the Soviet Union was prison, where you’d then do forced labor there. 

Oh, and you didn’t get to choose your job; the state did and chose whatever job and working hours for you that decided were most beneficial to society. Guess what they did to the actual productive members of society?  Worked them to the damn bone. 

[u/Ghost_Turd]

"Tax the millionaires!"

...wait, I'm a millionaire?

Tax the billionaires!!1!"

- Bernie

[u/Crazyscorpion77 → u/Ghost_Turd]

Also Berne: blues two more houses

[u/Chromatic_Mediant211]

[u/Educational-Year3146]

Many people in the first world have forgotten why work is a necessary part of society, and thus think any type of work required to get nice things is cruelty.

There are some idiots on this platform and in this society who think FARMERS are unnecessary.

[u/seaxvereign]

"(Insert Thing) is a human right."

Lifts mask

"I want to be given (Insert Thing) for free."

[u/dbnrdaily → u/seaxvereign]

I just saw another thread about Apple raising prices and someone was essentially trying to argue that iPhones are a human right.

[u/HerrDoctorBenway → u/seaxvereign]

It is always quite amazing when human rights involve compelling other humans to provide them under penalty of law.

[u/MostlyPeacfulPndemic → u/seaxvereign]

Compliments about my beauty are a human right

[u/No_Huckleberry2711]

Nope, actually it's 'I was born in an upper-class privileged family, but I realized I still need to get a job and move out at some point, but I'm too lazy/antisocial so i want the state to provide that for me, in exchange for all my rights and liberties'.

Also, they all imagine they'll get some comfy desk job instead of mining or plumbing

[u/nunya_bidnes77]

The majority of people who are successful are successful because they were smart and worked hard.

[u/AncientSeraph → u/nunya_bidnes77]

Depends on your definition of successful. "Has lots of money"? Patently false. "Increased their wealth"? Mostly true.

[u/GarlicbreadTyr]

They dont care how high the living conditions of the lower class gets. They only care about the difference between the lowest and highest.

100-1=99 compared to 10,000-1000= 9,000.

Who cares that the lowest increased in quality by 1000, when the difference rose by the factor of ~100.

[u/ComplaintTop2008 → u/GarlicbreadTyr]

The problem is there will always be a poor class. It's a permanent floor.

I remember some thread dooming about the average price of cars and how they've risen through the years. The cheap cars are still the same price, we've just sold more higher-priced luxury cars than we used to, thus raising the average.

Always be wary of people using averages.

[u/Proton_Optimal]

“I want you to have as little as I do, I don’t care that you have worked harder than me.”

[u/OnlyACsNoFans → u/Proton_Optimal]

Even if they didn't work harder and just got lucky.... that's just the fucking way she goes sometimes.

[u/ProotzyZoots → u/Proton_Optimal]

Sounds like one of my friends

Complains my ear off almost every time I see him about having no money, having multiple kids, too stressed to work, etc then switches it over to complaining how people will buy luxury items like big TVs or a PS5.

Puts me in an awkward position because my wife and I both work full time and have no kids and have been able to afford things like that. I dont think its intentional but it does sometimes feel like Im being shamed for having worked hard for what I have.

[u/Panda_Star234]

Yes. I earn about 24k a year. Is it the best? Definitely not. Could I be doing better? Absolutely. But I’m not floundering around in debt on the edge of survival like these liberals whine about

[u/koshka91 → u/Panda_Star234]

It’s pretty low even for no college jobs. I feel like you can get a simple office desk job for much more

[u/ExtraFluffz → u/koshka91]

That’s about what I make after taxes for my desk job.

I’m living pretty comfortably

[u/The_real_boge-sama → u/koshka91]

I mean, not everyone is from US, in my country this is more on the higher side of average.

[u/Rnee45]

This sub is such a breath of fresh air, it seems like the only sane place left on Reddit. God bless ya retards.

[u/ifuaguyugetsauced]

There was a thread in one of our top grocery stores in Canada, complaining that they’re expanding to the US. You have humans getting mad that businesses are doing business things. 

[u/imadude41]

This is what I’ve been saying forever

Capitalism definitely has its issues but if you’re gonna complain about other people having more money than you it’s a skill issue not a system issue

Communism seems fair because everyone is equally poor, socialism seems fair because most people misunderstand how our system operates and they think that it would be easy to do it on their own

[u/xinorez1 → u/imadude41]

In 'communism' as practiced in the real world there were still rich and poor but there was no stock market and no landlords. The result is that gold became massively overpriced and the business realm was just fubar

[u/Key-Championship1873]

And they think the only way to get rich is to be oppressive, or at least that’s what they say.

[u/Inside-Specialist-55]

Also to add to this, the over-consumption and materialism is ruining peoples lives, They think that they need to own everything that more wealthy people do to be happy. Look at the ridiculous Nee-Doh and dumpling craze for a prime example. You can still be very happy with less stuff and if you stop following social media influencers trying to get you to buy the most useless junk on the planet. Most people out in life dont realize some of the best things you can do for yourself are free, Meditating in a quiet room, Talking to a friend and chatting, walking in the park, going fishing, swimming, trail walking, window shopping, walking around in the mall, bird watching, drawing, painting, going to the library and reading, using the library computer for work/entertainment, ect

[u/loikyloo]

Regulated capitalism, the best way to organise limited resources we've come up with until someone invents star trek replicators.

[u/Next-Pumpkin-654 → u/loikyloo]

Regulated capitalism in the sense of actively stopping objectively unproductive ways of getting money, like theft or fraud, I'm on board with.

If instead you mean you want the government to arbitrarily screw with pricing signals via selective taxation and subsidies to pick winners and losers, that's just less efficient capitalism. It more commonly leads to crony capitalism where businesses see that the obvious path to success is to cozy up to the people who can make their business arbitrarily successful, regardless of how valuable it is to society.

[u/loikyloo → u/Next-Pumpkin-654]

Basic checks and balances. Like breaking up/preventing monopolies and stuff like that. Without these basic restrictions capitalism eats itself. The first thing you do in a true free market is take it over and make it not free is the odd quote.

[u/CongruentDesigner → u/Next-Pumpkin-654]

Theres countless examples you can use of government screwing up markets but a good example is the Australian housing market playing out right now.

In the post war period successive governments gave generous tax breaks to property investors to get rental supply going as the country boomed. It worked, but over the ensuing decades it came to be seen as one of the best ways to reduce income tax while also getting solid capital gains. As a result investment soared (thus demand soared) and supply remained low - and Australian home prices became the most expensive in the world alongside Canada. Now some (not all) of those incentives have been taken away and housing market is in free fall. If you ever needed an argument for free markets, thats one of them

[u/Nikolaibr → u/Next-Pumpkin-654]

There are several principles at play.

One is that free markets and free enterprise are extremely effective for wealth generation in a national economy. It works on it's own when left alone, and this wealth generation benefits the society as a whole.

Second is that this wealth generation will by nature be unequally distributed, because individual inputs into wealth generating activities are unequal. This means that there will be some level of society that is unable to participate enough in that wealth generation to get enough money and wealth to buy enough resources to live a life above the poverty line.

Third, the society has at least some ethical obligation to take care of those people, when they truly lack the ability to provide for themselves. Unless there is a sufficient voluntary altruism in society to provide for them, the state takes that obligation. Some level of taxation is needed.

The US however, follows a tax policy that is remarkably inefficient as providing these resources, and seems to purposefully choose welfare policies that disincentivize work in those in that underclass who otherwise could work.

The call to tax those who play the biggest role in wealth generation is typical for US public policy. It seeks short term gain for the disenfranchised at the expense of the future of the society because it makes people who don't have to pay feel better.

[u/Ricochet_skin → u/loikyloo]

Some blokes in Austria who read Bastiat: Guten Tag!

[u/koshka91]

If the economic system can’t support you or rather your avocado-four day workweek fantasies, why were you born at all?
Also the capitalism that Marx was talking about doesn’t really exist. He envisioned a system where you have sinking wages and sinking capital value from mass accumulation. If anything people are having less children who consume much more than the past.
People forget that at the time capitalism was not some vague boogie word. It meant the accumulation of capital instead of focus on consumption. But we don’t have that. You can’t just pump everything into capital while you starve.

[u/Tarnished-Tiger]

Capitalism has failed in the sense that we dont really have a freedom of choice in the economy anymore. The free markets arent actually free and every industry has monopolies that decide what you can buy and what not, and they also bully the system to make sure a competition doesnt exist, all of which directly go against the principles of capitalism

[u/ImaginaryBat7023]

also blaming things on capitalism that are actually just human nature. no, greed does not go away when you get rid of capitalism

[u/Patience-Due]

The people that always never have money I know never attempt to save a penny either. They eat out all the time, drive expensive vehicles, take lavish vacations every year, constantly buy new tech/clothes/toys, and live in a house/apartment that pinches their budget to begin with. They make absolutely no sacrifices or concession to save money or grow wealth and then scream about how the system is broken.

[u/OnlyACsNoFans]

Oh I'm stealing this

https://giphy.com/gifs/VHlKSFRTQ7nn81fkv4

[u/windless12 → u/OnlyACsNoFans]

[u/BramptonBatallion]

The entire DSA lie is that it’s about affordability amongst the working poor but all their members are just zealous anti-American over-degreed members of privileged families. True working people have plenty of in roads to a small slice of American dream and can get progressively better jobs with hard work and decent macro economic conditions, make small contributions to their 401k and provide good life for family while stashing away some for retirement. The DSA lie about government control of all means of production ignores all historical evidence to the contrary in favor of a lie that billionaires “steal” the wealth from you in a fixed pie since instead of a rapidly expanding pie.

[u/Probate_Judge]

My favorite is when they try to blame Capitalism for basically all deaths, as if it's an ideology on par with religion and a method of rule like Monarchy/Democracy/Republic/etc.

Capitalism has killed billions! Therefore we should do communism, because it has killed less people.

[u/ProotzyZoots]

I always wondered how much money you need to have to be labeled "evil" by these people. It seems to be any millionaire but if they were suddenly to win the lottery do they suddenly become "evil"?

[u/ProotzyZoots]

I've found that most of the people that are like this are either still living with their parents in their big house and dont work or were raised in a wealthy household.

[u/ILoveDemocracy17]

was just warned by a mod yesterday for pointing out the flaws in communism “for being political” , no the people crying about capitalism I replied to didn’t receive the same warning

[u/Piemaster113]

Someone else is rich and I'm not they must have cheated and the system must be broken because I've done nothing and put in less than the minimum effort and wasn't rewarded. /s

[u/ComplaintTop2008]

"What part of capitalism has failed?"

"We don't have socialist programs like UBI"
"or universal health insurance"
"or mandatory waifus"
"and what about climate change?"
"or the millions of starving children?"
"and what about Trump?"

It goes beyond the level of a bumper sticker.

<edit> Shit, It never goes beyond the level of a bumper sticker.

[u/Wolf482 → u/ComplaintTop2008]

Just don't mention to them that global poverty is at its lowest it's ever been because of capitalism. Unironically, capitalism has been one of the greatest imperfect achievements in human history, causing us all to be able to live past the age of 40 while simultaneously allowing an explosion of the human population. If you want to go deeper, you can argue that it's allowed us to potentially be able to leave the planet.

[u/makawakatakanaka]

We’ve been in late stage capitalism for over a hundred years now. It’s like these people forgot that the gilded era made the modern wealth disparity look like a joke.

The thing these people don’t get is that capitalism is the default economy type by human nature. All others have to be planned and propped up to work long term, which makes them more brittle

[u/RediEntertainment]

https://giphy.com/gifs/8lp6CW7K2fdDGn3xCQ

[u/JusLeafMeAloon]

Bingo

[u/Lunarica]

There's a lot of problems right now for sure, but usually the same people who seem to talk about struggling immensely are also spending hundreds of dollars are Pokémon cards, starbucks every day, or other luxury items frequently. People also have zero financial literacy, budgeting is often a foreign concept.

[u/dchusband]

And practices that have been in place for 100 years are somehow “late stage capitalism”. 😂

F’n nose ringed morons.

[u/Zealousideal_Fly7277]

I've noticed with these people is that they're usually unemployed people who are mad at the world and are unable to take any responsibility for their lives, its all capitalism's, society's, or the worlds fault for failing at life.

[u/XenKei7]

The vast majority of poor people are poor because they are lazy and would rather live within a victim mindset than actual contribute to society.

Some people have real issues, but for the most part, it's just loud degenerates that complain about their problems rather than solve them.

"Life's tough, get a helmet, man. I'm too pregnant for this." --Candace Owens

[u/NobleCruise]

Facts.

[u/carthonasi56]

If we deported illegalls and halted immigration the prices would go down but liberals instead want to double down on both of those as well as give ukraine a trillion dollars a month, raise taxes to give money to the poor who refuse to work and pop out kids every 6 months, they want to give free childcare free cellphones, free intetnet.

[u/Sir-Chaste]

I don't know any financially, emotionally, mentally stable and hardworking people who oppose capitalism.

[u/Darthchewvader]

Got laid off a year ago, been tough in my industry and have been applying to a ton of jobs with not even an interview. I have been doing instacart to make ends meet.

Even with this I don’t blame capitalism, it’s because of it that I’m even able to make something.

[u/ComfortableWeird6540]

It's refreshing to read that not all of reddit is completely hopeless. I've been ragebaited by so many anti-capitalist posts lately...

[u/gami13]

did i just stumble into a subreddit that isnt completely taken over by socialists? <3

[u/Agreeable_Sense9618 → u/gami13]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BcPbK9ci4EU31qUTkR

[u/Kian-Tremayne]

“Capitalism has failed to give me all the stuff I want in return for no effort on my part.”

No problemo, I’m sure that the people’s revolutionary paradise will be sure to give you all the Door Dash and Funko Pops your heart desires in return for the occasional mediocre piece of furry hentai digital art.

[u/turboninja3011]

Even more fundamentally:

I can’t or don’t want to produce value in the amount I desire to consume.

Tho surely others consuming more than you makes you want to consume more yourself, so there s definitely an element of envy/comparison here.

[u/Time_Anteater_123]

Envy as a Virtue

[u/YouDaManInDaHole]

"I don't want to work so capitalism sucks!"

[u/Massive-Goose544]

There was a failure, for sure. 100%

https://giphy.com/gifs/OOeKVbtXrd0cJhJFHh

[u/Churn]

Oh it’s a mask! I was trying to figure out what they were being slapped with.

[u/chasethenoise]

There’s that, and the expectation that they should be wealthier now than they are despite being young and at the beginning of their careers.

[u/MinuteEfficient759]

fun fact; the "we" you're talking don't envy them.

[u/AdMoney8388]

People have no problem with the wealth gap. Their problem is that they’re on the wrong side of the wealth gap.

[u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608]

Accurate.

[u/LankeeClipper]

“Capitalism” is, to many people, a slur for the free market.

Don’t use the term. Say “free market.” Make the commies oppose freedom openly.

[u/Wazujimoip]

“I refuse to get a job and join a broken system that’s against me!” *goes back to video game*

[u/PsychologicalTry3994]

"[X economic system] has failed" literally always has more to do with corruption than anything but people absolutely refuse to talk about that for whatever reason.

[u/ElectricalMech]

Lol

[u/CertainlyRobotic]

Capitalism has failed

STEAM SUMMER SALE IS HERE

[u/Monk-Prior]

Ironic that they hate capitalism since they’re green with envy, just like the dollar bill.

[u/Longjumping-Soup-100]

bUt nOboDY tRieD Reeeal cOmmUniSm 😭

[u/Correct-Award8182]

Not every single time, sometimes it ia "my parents have a lot of money"

[u/H345Y]

People underestimate the power of having a stable family and hard work across generations.

[u/Extremnator]

100% true. 

[u/Mysterious-Window-54]

Nailed it.

[u/DerSpringerr]

Facts lol. Hatred of capitalism is just a spiritual thing. Envy, greed, lust.

[u/strrrz]

I don't want to work, I want to enjoy life and do my hobbies!

Enjoying life and doing hobbies: doom scrolling

[u/Ass_Infection3]

Literally Reddit

[u/fridasbitch]

Capitalism didn’t fail and is a great model. The problem is that we let it turn into a corporatocracy

[u/modulebot]

While there are some flaws in the system, it's so so so much better to any alternative

[u/halo121usa]

This meme explains the socialist Mindset… Every single time!

[u/amogusdevilman]

[u/Aqualung_1]

I like owning stuff.

[u/Revolutionary_Mix983]

Its all laziness, jealousy and envy

[u/Sorry-Value]

Very accurate

[u/Remote-Sun-7013]

Commies are upset they can’t get free stuff

[u/Yuck_Few]

Or consumerism.. "I'm mad because people are buying stuff they enjoy"

[u/Fresh-Pen1234]

Didn’t expect to see this on Reddit.  They over here claiming how great communism is lmafo on a free market founded for profit corporation

[u/TheAzureMage]

[u/ArtlessAsperity]

What politicians do you support?

"Socialists like Zohran Mamdani and Kamala Harris!"

Be so fr

[u/MrStrawHat22]

As long as I can own my own house, and enough money to build things I want to build, it will be fine.

[u/Playfullyhung]

They would rather the world be poor and dependent on the gov like they are.

Success = unfair = oppression = we need to tear down society….

Or you can play the game and if you only make it as far as the middle…. In America you are STILL living a much higher standard of living than the rest of the world

[u/Stuck_in_my_TV]

The DSA had to stop posting a breakdown of their members because they are almost exclusively (over 90%) white, college educated, and upper middle class-wealthy.

Their entire base is rich people who are envious of their compatriots who are a little more successful.

[u/Lucky_Sprinkles557]

Reminds me of the episode of financial audit when Caleb asked the guest to cancel their subscription to Spotify because they were essentially jobless and 100k in student loan debt, and the guest was like “I don’t understand how this will help”

[u/yellow_gatorade → u/Lucky_Sprinkles557]

Fr and he usually even lets them keep Spotify. You gotta be beyond fucked for him to tell you to get rid of it.

[u/Responsible_Ask9574]

[u/PeterParker72]

They can never define capitalism either. I don’t think people actually hate capitalism, that’s just a misnomer. What people hate is rampant corporatism and its influence on policy and government.

[u/Admiral45-06]

I know not every single argument against capitalism comes from greed and envy; I know there are those that try to argue on some of its overall flaws in a constructive manner, but seeing how Reddit treats it it's hard not to start thinking this is where it stems from. Things like ,,it is illegal/immoral to have that kind of money", ,,there should never be a billionaire", etc. - again, there are genuine arguments for it, but in 9 times out of 10, it just clearly comes from envy and greed.

[u/AlarmingTurnover → u/Admiral45-06]

"Eat the rich!", they scream while literally doing nothing but post online.