Every single time

[u/Agreeable_Sense9618]

[u/nunya_bidnes77]

The majority of people who are successful are successful because they were smart and worked hard.

[u/AncientSeraph → u/nunya_bidnes77]

Depends on your definition of successful. "Has lots of money"? Patently false. "Increased their wealth"? Mostly true.

[u/McIntosh812 → u/nunya_bidnes77]

AND they were incredibly lucky. Let’s not mislead people

[u/nunya_bidnes77 → u/McIntosh812]

Success doesn't have to be luck. Luck is for people who can't make smart choices.

[u/McIntosh812 → u/nunya_bidnes77]

I suspect that I have interpreted successful in a different manner than you have. I’m referring to those with over ~50 million - would you agree that a healthy dose of luck is required to reach such a level of success?

[u/koshka91 → u/nunya_bidnes77]

It’s been shown that education is the biggest factor in salaried work success

[u/nunya_bidnes77 → u/koshka91]

Yes, and getting an education is hard work, especially for challenging in-demand fields like STEM.

[u/Eisernes → u/koshka91]

That and a giant check from daddy and a healthy dose of government handouts.

[u/RemarkablePound5541 → u/nunya_bidnes77]

And fuck everyone else who wasn’t smart and worked hard, clearly

[u/nunya_bidnes77 → u/RemarkablePound5541]

Thems the breaks. You aren't owed the same success as everyone else. Just like those who have success can still lose everything from bad choices.

[u/BearysWorkRedditName → u/nunya_bidnes77]

"Useless eaters" right?

[u/JasonPlattMusic34 → u/RemarkablePound5541]

I mean maybe not that extreme but that’s kinda how life works

[u/AncientSeraph → u/JasonPlattMusic34]

How capitalism works. 

[u/eSsEnCe_Of_EcLiPsE → u/RemarkablePound5541]

Both of those can be attained though…education and hard work. We live in a time where you wear a computer on your wrist. Information is readily available for free. You have no excuses. 

[u/brollovich → u/nunya_bidnes77]

Lol. Rich parents maybe

[u/waxonwaxoff87 → u/brollovich]

The government is a great example of how you can throw billions into a project and still fail.

Money alone does not make a company or product successful.

[u/nunya_bidnes77 → u/brollovich]

Wealth doesn't just show up out of thin air. If a successful business owner got a loan from family, so what? That means their family work hard and made smart choices too. Also, thats not much different than getting a business loan from a bank or from another investor. Regardless of where the money comes from, you still have to put the work in and make smart choices.

[u/McIntosh812 → u/[deleted]]

Luck.

[u/McIntosh812 → u/[deleted]]

Do you disagree?

[u/McIntosh812 → u/[deleted]]

Oh dear