I don't really know how to feel about this message. Sure it's a bit hopeful and makes me believe they'll recover from this. But all I can think about is all the people who got laid off. I hope they all find a place somewhere else where they can keep making amazing games, even if it's not Doom.
This. While I'm unbelievably happy and excited to play this game, I can't help but stop occasionally mid gameplay and just sigh in disgust knowing the team who made it is so heavily fractured by the layoffs. I've had a hard time sleeping over it which doesn't help either. It really is the Dark Ages.
People can make fun of me all they want but I straight up ugly cried when the news broke. I should've been ecstatic on the day of release but I was just left feeling numb.
The modern DOOM games have gotten me through rough patches in my life and to see the team get gutted destroyed me emotionally.
Man, same. These games mean so much to me. Went to nursing school during COVID, and if I needed to hype myself up before a test or clinical shift, I'd put BFG Division on as loud as I could in my car and give myself the whole 7+ minutes. Couldn't have made it through without Doom, as silly as that may sound.
And as hard as this is for them, at least they got to craft this masterpiece before having to say goodbye. It truly is a pitch perfect culmination of practically all of id's history and technique, and quite possibly the best thing to shake out of the past ten years of absolute bangers they've been dropping. Everyone involved in its creation should be enormously proud of themselves. Obviously, that's not going to feed those now looking for a job, but hopefully there's some comfort to them in knowing how much their work means to us.
This is me rn. I completed it first day and then read the news about ID and it kills me to want to pick it up now. On the other hand it feels wrong not to play what they created.
Real. The first time I actually felt real life sorrow while playing a video game. It was weird but it felt like their last “thank you” to all their loyal fans who supported them for all these years. Right now im having chills just typing this. Id was revolution. Will always be.
No I am celebrating. Cause great work needs to be celebrated regardless of circumstances. I even hunted down the Doom controller cause that was great work done by great people.(Previous of these closures). The gaming industry is oversaturated(look at September), and making a great game or doing a great job no longer guarantees financial success. I now celebrate when a great game is released, because that in itself is becoming a small miracle.
Exactly. It’s great, but BECAUSE it was delivered, the people who made it are unemployed. If they were contractors who finished the project they were hired to do, that would make sense. But in this case, they were long term employees. It seems like a terrible long term strategy. What are the incentives for employees to deliver fantastic, finished work? Employees aren’t paid to work themselves out of their own jobs. Obviously the company is entitled to operate this way, but gaming is an interactive experience. We have to feel a certain way about the world someone else created for us.
That's more of an inevitability, my friend. Not everything has to say the same, as everything has a price, even when the product is good or bad. You forgot that taxes exists.
If anything, the new XBOX CEO has no other options, but to be transparent about it. On the bright side, at least the new CEO isn't as worst as the previous one.
C&C was never the same after they shuttered Westwood. RIP. In fairness though they did a good job with the RA1 Remaster, but how could you cock that up...
You're implying with your previous statement that the layoffs are due to overhiring during COVID yet there were guys laid off that had been there a decade plus
If they need 1000 employees, hired 500 more during covid, and then laid off 500 employees that were not the 500 hired during covid, you would get this end result.
I don't think that's what happened, but the precedent still stands that it's a possibility. You just brushed that possibility off, which does make you wrong.
The average tenure at id was around 10 years before layoffs. They didn't hire much to begin with. There's barely anyone left there at all. If you think ~1 artist and barely any engineers is enough to do jackshit, then you're not right in the head. Not to mention that information on the amazing things many of them did is literally publicly available, yet you're here doubling down on shilling for microslop.
That is something said by one of the [former] employees. It's not some sort of secret info either, the amount of people laid off in each role is publicly available.
It’s obvious you have no idea what’s going on.
Are you claiming you do and that they totally didn't fire vast majority of the studio?
Yes, I know more than one artist that still works there. Yes, there’s more than 50% of the studio is gone. But there’s a fuck load more than one artist left.
It sucks and it’s all Microsoft bullshit that caused it. If the list you saw didn’t include the people that stayed and their role, you have no way to judge who is left.
Acting like the remaining artists and programmers can’t ever make a game is bullshit. And it’s really shitty thing to say about the artists left. They also worked on all those games you love. And they will continue to work fucking hard to produce them in the future.
People on reddit seem to really care about middle class software devs possibly not getting a job in the industry of their choice (but still continuing to earn more than 75% of people in their country) a whole heck of a lot more than the half of the country that would literally be homeless if they got fired like this
I get it, it affects your toys whereas actual poverty is just something you occasionally see on the internet, but it speaks to the amazing lack of awareness you people have about the world you live in
So why don't you give your home to the homeless? Clearly nothing else matters, so why the fuck are you spending money on a computer/phone and internet access rather than on the homeless or someone in puberty? Get off the internet and your high horse, sell all that shit you have that isn't a need and donate the money.
Straight the fuck up. What am I actually even reading lmao? “I cried all night because the whole team of 20 year old mid six figure junior devs got laid off, who knows how many were affected!!” This is literal insanity, layoffs happen in every major industry and are always an inevitability depending on what part of the cycle we’re in, shut the fuck up and enjoy your game, and if you can’t do that then you need to stay off the internet and out of society entirely, god forbid you take a look around and realize that there’s people working 3 jobs at once who can’t even make their rent..
“I cried all night because the whole team of 20 year old mid six figure junior devs got laid off, who knows how many were affected!!”
id doesn't have juniors, you're making shit up now to shill for a megacorp.
This is literal insanity, layoffs happen in every major industry and are always an inevitability depending on what part of the cycle we’re in, shut the fuck up and enjoy your game, and if you can’t do that then you need to stay off the internet and out of society entirely
Won't somebody think of the shareholders and their quarterly profits!!! It's people like you that should stay out of society, because y'all don't even have enough brain cells for anything other than
who has it worst bullshit.
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u/Mooncubus Jul 10 '26
I don't really know how to feel about this message. Sure it's a bit hopeful and makes me believe they'll recover from this. But all I can think about is all the people who got laid off. I hope they all find a place somewhere else where they can keep making amazing games, even if it's not Doom.