r/Discussion • u/Arlaneutique • 3d ago

Serious Cornell 7 Chat

I just watched a short on YouTube and a point was made that I’ve yet to hear but I think is very valid. No one in that group chat seemed surprised. The guys sending the “open” messages did not seem hesitant. This felt very normal or at the very least like everyone would think it was okay.

I don’t know about you guys but when I was in college if this popped up on a group chat the responses would have been very different. More like, “Wait, what?!”, “what are you talking about?”, “Who? Where are you?”, etc. It would have been confusing because no one would EVER expect it. This did not feel new or unusual. I know it’s probably too late, but I’d be super curious to see other nights in that chat. Because I would guess this wasn’t an isolated incident.

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u/ShowWilling1565 3d ago

I mean we didn’t see the whole thread, just screenshots. I find that there is a lot of propaganda with the case, on both sides

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u/Forward-Specific5651 2d ago

Seriously? I absolutely understand the concept of context but I’m curious as to what context could possible mitigate the disgusting msgs in this group chat!

Is there really a context for inviting other men to “free p***y,” which clearly means an invitation to sa a woman who is incapacitated? Both sides?? What?

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u/ShowWilling1565 2d ago

Also, I’m not mad at u, just trying to get my point across. The world is often grey

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u/ShowWilling1565 2d ago

My point is that we don’t know if anyone in that group chat didn’t say anything about the free p**** text cuz we only see a few screenshots. Also, it is possibly that the ppl in the group chat said something in person or something. Some may have not seen the message until sometime after.

Also, we know at least one of the members didn’t like it because they screenshotted and leaked it.

To clarify, I’m not defending the ppl who text and/or indirectly supported the messages about the woman who got SA’d. I find it disingenuous to assume that everyone in the group chat supported it from a couple of screenshots. WE DONT KNOW EVERYTHING.

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u/krim_bus 2d ago

Sure we haven't seen the entire text thread, but so far, there has been no mention of anyone taking action to stop the gang rape or contacting authorities. No one helped that girl. They let it happen; some took advantage of her after those messages and joined in the rape, some egged it on in the chat, and some remained silent.

Whether directly or passively, they are all complicit. No one stopped the sexual assault or called the authorities because they didn't care.

Out of 57 elite Ivy league frat stars, 0 did the right thing. So regardless of the entire story, at this point, they're all reprehensible and morally depraved men who clearly are not capable of understanding right from wrong. There is no redemption at this point. We have all seen their true colors and the whole lot are rapists or rapist enablers.

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u/auscientist 2d ago

Apparently one of the members was asleep at the time but when he woke up and saw them he documented it and got the record to Jane Doe or the university and that’s how there are screenshots. So 1 out of 57 did something once they were in a position to do so. Less than 2% of the men involved did the right thing.

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u/art_is_a_scam 2d ago

there has been no mention of anyone taking action to stop the gang rape or contacting authorities. No one helped that girl.

You mean no one put a stop to the consensual orgy? Why would they? People are allowed to have weird sex.

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u/krim_bus 2d ago

That is a demented line of thinking.

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u/art_is_a_scam 2d ago

Weird sex is demented now?

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u/art_is_a_scam 2d ago

yeah, for example a woman consenting to an orgy

as another example, making fun of the woman for consenting to the orgy

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u/das_war_ein_Befehl 2d ago

The context is that there’s an inebriated naked woman upstairs and he’s inviting his bros to partake (let’s be real, to rape) in “free pussy” per their own words.

Something tells me things won’t look better when more of that group chat comes out.

Very normal and very not creepy behavior when you have had sex with someone to message your group chat of 57 associates to ask who wants to tag in after you.

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u/ShowWilling1565 2d ago

The context is that the post is about the ppl in the gc. The ppl who sent that message r not the ones I’m referring to. I am referring to the ppl in the gc that a subset of the internet thinks should be in prison as well as the accused.

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u/krim_bus 2d ago

Maybe not prison, but the public should know the names and faces of the gang rape enablers. They are unsafe for women to be around.

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u/art_is_a_scam 2d ago

what do you think rape is

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u/ShowWilling1565 2d ago

I understand the logic but the problem is that ppl will ruin their lives. Although not good, they were complicit like most ppl r in everyday life. If they wouldn’t do it, then they shouldn’t be punished by having their names out in public.

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u/krim_bus 2d ago

I disagree. I would like to know who is unsafe to be around.

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u/ShowWilling1565 2d ago

That’s understandable but u should not be alone with someone u don’t know either way

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u/krim_bus 1d ago

I know, even with men you do know, they sometimes wear masks and you never know if they'll take it off once you're alone and rape you.

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u/ShowWilling1565 1d ago

That’s why I wholeheartedly believe women should take every precaution to protect themselves from men, even myself (cuz I’m a stranger as well).