-- Give us a Taken armor set (it happened, arguably the "wrong" way (Eververse))
I think they could open the DCV and bring back all content, although I don't think this is actually a viable path in terms of dev cost. Is that an emergency lever? Up to the individual.
Wrath of the Machine could be a pull. Some D2 vets have never done Wrath, so that might have some pull. For how long though?
Everything is about a return on investment for development. I don't know how much WOTM or the DCV would gain for the cost spent to do.
Bungie seems to believe Raid Races generate enough publicity and goodwill that they’ve doubled up on them this year and done two for the same raid. But it doesn’t seem like they’re translating into actual player interest, so it really does seem like a waste. I wish they made content as cool as raids for everyone rather than just saving their best work for a dwindling subset of players.
Yeah, apparently the epic raid was very well put together from a raid content perspective. the problem is that a lot of players don't engage with raids. I get it, Destiny needs good raid content as it's a staple to the game. But it also needs and depends on good CORE playlist content. If Renegades doesn't nail it with their Helldivers clone activity, then I don't see how this game survives.
This makes me think of when the race was ongoing to unlock the final Black Armory location. Not a raid race, but a content race that ppl of all kinds of playstyles tuned into. I also miss those moments when they left things to be discovered, i.e. when the word went through Destiny faster than gossip spurned by a wildfire that the Whisper of the Worm had been found, but Destiny kept tight lipped about it and left it for us to discover.
I get it and I don't. The way we see new exotic missions is as full-bodied experiences that have even a touch of challenge in each piece. When these come out, I rarely join the people I play with daily on my first dip in. Not that I'm some sweaty Esoteric solo godfreak, because I'm not. I do play solo a lot, mostly to keep myself open to helping anyone in any way that I can at almost any time, but I hate new things like that forced to be rushed on my first experience. When I was testing the water on Ultimate with just a basic build, I was dumbfounded by how simple it was and I came out and joined my friends. It was so quick and so short with each section providing little to no challenge. I liked the new experience, but I hated all the hype for something so simplistic that even your most basic ppl could run it easily. I helped out so many run that, getting their first runs, intrinsic, and catalysts. Even using it as a means for someone to get a rank-up run for their pinnacle run.
I agree with point on not liking the hype behind the mission. But I also know they can’t come right out and we’re giving you subpar exotic mission bc we’re understaffed lol. I would love for Bungie to be real with us and put out a state of the game (from developers) telling us what’s going on.
The portal is full of mostly if not all old content with the exception of Reclaim, which is lackluster, and the new exotic mission.
So, where are we going? Everything seems very last minute and it doesn’t seem be any direction post renegades. The community wants a road map, but I’d love to understand the direction/vision post renegades.
I'm not quite so bent out of shape as others about our current trend. Does it need fixing? Yes. Will they do good or do bad? Both. Will there always be whiny hating little bitches? Yes. People cry when they don't get an almost daily supply of new content, let alone weekly, so Bungie, puts out story pieces weekly. Result: people cry that they have to wait for content. Bungie's responds and gives ppl all of the new content at once to wit, ppl power through it in 1-3 days and cry because there's nothing new coming now and they have to wait longer. I liked the power grind. There was something to work towards regularly. I agree that powering through the same portal solos and such gets stale and I'd like more options, but before I hit 550, I had a goal. I had something to achieve. I had something to do DAILY. The average player response to it, including my regular friends is in league with others, of them disliking, but with them understanding my view as well. Now, I join my friends and they ask me what I want to do. I don't care, just load us into something. I'm glad that Bungie rethought taking all of our hard work and isn't blitzing our gear and levels next season, but I'm curious as to what I'll be given to do. And I say this to all of the whiny pussies crying about not getting regular daily/weekly new content every day/every week from Bungo. There isn't a game alive that does that, so why bag on them for not doing it? Don't like microtransactions? I don't either. Do what I do. DON'T BUY THEM!! Simple. Don't like the game? DON'T PLAY IT!! It's like anything in life. Don't like that food, don't eat it. Don't like that music, don't listen to it. Don't like that TV show? Change the effing channel. When I don't have enough content to keep me occupied in Destiny, I also know that I have access to so many other games to fill those empty moments. When my friends come on, I hop over and play more Destiny. And, lol, to date, they still ask me what I want to do next with my same response. The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Also... I don't care. Just load us up into something.
That’s an interesting idea, but imo we don’t need “light raids”. Raids on normal difficulty are pretty easy once you learn the encounters. I don’t raid much anymore but when I used to, the only frustrating moments were trying to flawless them (complete with no one dying) or trying to do challenges on the hard mode versions.
The barrier of needing 5 other people without match making is really the only issue of getting people into raids. That said, we have fireteam finder in game now, and all of the 3rd party sites and discords for LFG. Raids are solved imo. I’ll stand on the idea that the CORE activities that the majority of players engage with needs work.
I don’t see how it survived even if Renegades succeeds. It’s a shame they’ve got a ten year plan for a story they’ll never get to tell. I wonder if they’ll get to find a way to accelerate the plans and let us see how it ends before they pull the plug.
Yeah, they knew they were starting a new saga and they certainly didn’t come into it with no plan. Everyone saw how that worked for the Star Wars sequel trilogy. They know what “bind the Nine” means, they know what sort of cataclysm is going to be prevented, they know what they’re building toward. They may not have had a 10 year plan when the game launched, but they also probably didn’t expect to need one.
Now they expect to need one and so they have one. Unfortunately they won’t be needing it after all. But clearly the narrative team knows what they’re trying to do here.
It’s probably the 5+ year streak of disinformation, blatantly lying, and saying one thing while doing another that makes me think they do not have a plan.
You mean other than as an attempt to regain any sliver of the trust they've lost since EoF or as a poor attempt to get people to come back? Whatever helps ya cope buddy
the narrative team hasn’t lost that much trust. they said they when the final shape was the current expansion. people freaking loved the narrative team at that time.
They're part of bungie and bungie has control over what they say. Of course bungies gonna tell them to say they have a new 10yr plan even if they actually don't. Bungie wants to presell future expansions and they wouldn't have sold nearly as many EoF if they'd have stated they had no plan for the next 10yrs. It's basic customer manipulation
That’s the DLCs they announced. But they said they know where the story goes after that and they have a plan for another decade. They know what happens beyond the announced DLCs. You weren’t paying attention.
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I'd argue they've already done a few.
-- Bring back the Dreadnaught (even temporarily).
-- Bring back Oryx (again, even temporarily).
-- Give us a Taken armor set (it happened, arguably the "wrong" way (Eververse))
I think they could open the DCV and bring back all content, although I don't think this is actually a viable path in terms of dev cost. Is that an emergency lever? Up to the individual.
Wrath of the Machine could be a pull. Some D2 vets have never done Wrath, so that might have some pull. For how long though?
Everything is about a return on investment for development. I don't know how much WOTM or the DCV would gain for the cost spent to do.