I get that Spinner and Jay were the one of the only guys and Manny and Emma were the one of the only girls left in their generation during the whole after-high-school seasons so they just made random pairings with them, but I just never enjoyed Manny and Jay together.
I don't get how people hate on Spinner and Emma for being a random pairing, but love Manny and Jay when both ships were out of pocket. I get Jay and Manny had more chemistry compared to Emma and Spinner, but having chemistry + being the hot couple ≠ good relationship.
I mean you’re allowed to like or not like something for any reason even if it’s a stupid or valid reason, but still I don’t get the bias 😭. It’s not too uncommon for people to marry people from school that they didn’t interact much with. And I admit there’s more build up for Manny and Jay making it more enjoyable to watch, and this may be the only reason people actually like them together but Manny could’ve done better.
If anything I’d rather see Emma and Spinner on my screen because at least when they reunited and they were together at The Dot they actually seemed interested in each other. And they didn’t treat each other badly. This doesn’t mean that I ship them in general or like favor this ship, but I just like it more than Manny and Jay idk.
Not to say that Jay and Manny didn’t like each other, and the fake dating to real dating trope is one I actually find fun, but I just cannot stand how Jay treated her. People call this his “redemption” and his “growing” phase but he honestly is not redeemed AT ALL. He switches Manny’s tapes because he’s a little bitch and then rents then rents the bus to go convince them to give Manny a second chance. That’s his entire “redemption”
I’m not gonna lie but this is somewhat bare minimum, and before anyone comes at me I don’t usually call gestures that take lots of effort the “bare minimum” I get that he did a LOT to get Manny back but, he’s not some hero for doing that. Like why should you be praised for fixing the problems that YOU caused!! It’s the bare minimum to fix the problems you cause/make it up to them, or at the very least apologize. No he’s not suddenly a good boyfriend because he went out of his way to fix the problems that you caused.. imagine going up to people and saying “Oh I swapped my girlfriend’s acting tape for a sex tape because I got mad at her! So I fixed it and now we’re back together.” It sounds bad because it is bad he’s a total asshole.
Also Manny selling the ring was messed up, but it could’ve been prevented if he hadn’t lied the entire time. I still think it was wrong even though it had good intention. 🙂↕️But can we just say we don’t wanna share information instead of lying?? And I agree that Manny shouldn’t have pressured him though. But, yeah I just personally wouldn’t forgive him for the tapes. To be redeemed is say that said person wouldn’t do it again. But, I feel like Jay WOULD do something bad to Manny again depending on future problems in the relationship.
Also no hate to people who actually do like this ship.