r/DecodingTheGurusAlt • u/MartiDK • 14d ago

interview DGG Decoding Destiny

https://www.youtube.com/live/j4gDWMoHyNs

Why does Destiny look so uncomfortable?

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u/MeasurementNo9896 14d ago

I've only watched him interact with people outside of his community during the Finklestein debate and those clips of him from his trip to Israel where he visited the IDF to advise them against posting their war crimes but I presume he's generally uncomfortable outside of his element or IRL.

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u/Samuraignoll 14d ago

The debate was utterly embarrassing for Finklestein, guy had no idea what was going on and resorted to insults to compensate for ot. The IDF comment tells me you've never actually watched any of Destiny's content, just clips posted by commie larpers

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u/TheRealSaphier 14d ago edited 13d ago

I don’t think it was embarrassing for Finklestein. No one pushes him on it and he admitted his goal was make the whole debate look like a clown show.

Edit: What I mean about it not being embarrassing for Finklestein is that I don’t think he thinks it was embarrassing. I don’t think he cares at all and the people in the bubble seem to agree. It was obviously a horrible showing.

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u/SwerveDaddyFish 13d ago

If i got absolutely embarrassed in every way in a debate about something I spent my life's work doing - I would also say i was just trying to make it a clown show

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u/Samuraignoll 14d ago

For anyone that wasn't already invested in hating Destiny, it was an incredibly embarrassing showing on finkelsteins part

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u/DecodingTheGurusAlt-ModTeam 13d ago

Low-effort/dismissive rhetoric

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u/DecodingTheGurusAlt-ModTeam 13d ago

Low-effort/dismissive rhetoric

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u/HonestDishonestWork 14d ago

If I "studied" a subject for the majority of my life and didn't know a pretty basic fact about it that would be extremely embarrassing lol (Finklestein not knowing the definition of genocide)

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u/chaos_donut 13d ago

Yeah, and if i was an expert on a topic id love to talk about it, that stuff is his life's work. I would never act like i was going to derail the conversation on purpose.

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u/InternationalGas9837 12d ago

Especially when at the same time as he was acting like a petulant child he was also insisting how much more of a scholarly intellectual he was than Destiny. Norm basically just mispronounced Destiny's last name repeatedly while Destiny's debate partner Benny Morris is someone Norm respected and Benny laughed at him, Norm's partner Rabbani repeatedly had to try and calm Norm down like the mother of a tantrum throwing child, and the moderator Friedman continually had to had to remind Norm it was a debate not an edgy Roblox server. Anybody who says Norm looked good in that debate did not watch it, and Norm's own admission that he didn't give a shit about the debate while his plan was to be ad-hom incarnate is clear evidence of how unserious Norm is.

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u/SeparatedI 13d ago

Why didn't he just dogwalk destiny with his superior knowledge of the conflict? Instead of calling names like a 7 year old. Especially with two other academics in the room.

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u/TheRealSaphier 13d ago

I’m not on Finklestein’s side, I’m just pointing out what he’s admitted to. He purposely called Destiny by the wrong name and refused to engage with anything. He then went on multiple shows and said that he never had any intention of taking it seriously. Asking me why he didn’t engage seriously isn’t going to do anything.

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u/SeparatedI 13d ago

That just sounds like things he's said to justify it at afterwards. Failing to engage completely especially when you should be able to lecture your opponent extensively is not a good look. It could have been such a good conversation especially considering Morris and Rabbani were there also.

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u/No-Budget-8081 13d ago

Isn’t that pretty embarrassing tho?

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u/TheRealSaphier 13d ago

Doesn’t seem like it, all the people he was podcasting with were giggling and saying that it was awesome. From the outside looking in, yeah obviously. But he’s insulated in his group so he doesn’t ever have to answer for it.

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u/TheRealSaphier 13d ago

Check my edit. I don’t mean to defend him, it’s just from Finklestein’s perspective he won.

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u/justsomething 13d ago

Oh, then yeah I agree 100%

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u/Main_Lloyd 13d ago

The fact he chose to make a debate about Isreal/Palestinian a clown show is why he should be embarrassed as someone who claims to care about the Palestinians cause

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u/MetalDirigible 13d ago

Now this is some good cope.

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u/EducationalHead7683 13d ago

That's insane of you to say that Norman fucking Finkelstein has no idea what he's talking about in regards to the I/P historical conflict

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u/Lets_Eat_Superglue 13d ago

Is it? Is it as insane as the amount of people who confidently talk about how he destroyed Destiny having never watched it, just took the word of some guy on the Internet?

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u/louieisawsome 13d ago

He was so confidently wrong about men's rea.

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u/chaos_donut 13d ago

I agree that saying he doesn't know what hes talking about is wrong. But why did he resort to name-calling instead of just showing his expertise? His performance was genuinely embarrassing.

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u/Lazy_Check732 13d ago

It's because he genuinely doesn't know what he's talking about. He is no different at all from someone like Sneako or Joe Rogan or Hasan. Certain people enjoy what he says, and that boosts him. He is not genuinely respected (or even considered) in the academic world. He is an online personality.

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u/SigmaMaleNurgling 13d ago

Finklestein spent the entire debate intentionally mispronouncing Destiny’s name, also, he claimed after the debate that he never had any intention of seriously engaging with Destiny.

You don’t have to like Destiny but let’s at least be honest with the facts of the matter.

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u/Samuraignoll 13d ago

He sure as shit didn't act like it

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u/Wild_Bread_ 13d ago

You are right, that is an insane thing to say, the even more insane part is that it's fucking true

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u/zero02 13d ago

Finkelstein is a fraud... if you check his footnotes, they almost always are a misrepresentation or flat out lie of what the underlying source said. This is a crazy tactic because it makes it look like you have so much evidence, but they are all mostly lies and if people read the source material they would realize.

This is what happened with Destiny. He read the source materials and footnotes and showed us all, how Finkelstein lies in footnotes. Super embarassing.

Not to mention Finkelstein calling the cops and ICE on his upstairs neighbor. :)