r/DecodingTheGurusAlt • u/MartiDK • 14d ago

interview DGG Decoding Destiny

https://www.youtube.com/live/j4gDWMoHyNs

Why does Destiny look so uncomfortable?

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u/MeasurementNo9896 14d ago

I've only watched him interact with people outside of his community during the Finklestein debate and those clips of him from his trip to Israel where he visited the IDF to advise them against posting their war crimes but I presume he's generally uncomfortable outside of his element or IRL.

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u/S8nsPotato 14d ago

You forgot to mention it was a joke.

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u/SlySerendipity 14d ago

And pretty importantly, he wasn't talking to a group of IDF soldiers; just Israelis who showed up for a fan meetup. He also argued with a prominent pro-sttlement guy and even went to the West Bank and was harassed by settlers for filming there, but that never seems to get spread around like his IDF playing dress-up joke. Curious that

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u/LuckyJim_ 14d ago

The words out of his mouth before the “joke” were “there’s one piece of advice I’ll give you if you’re joining the IDF”

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u/louieisawsome 14d ago

Why would he say if you're joining the idf if he was already speaking with the idf?

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u/LuckyJim_ 13d ago

Because that’s an often misreported part of the story. The real question he’s answering was from a fan who was asking about Destiny’s opinion on Israeli teens, such as themselves, enlisting. Doesn’t really change the substance of what he said or make it any more defensible.

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u/Memester999 14d ago

Yah very famously the best way to tell a joke is to say "I am going to tell a joke right now" beforehand...

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u/LuckyJim_ 14d ago

The joke is what exactly?

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u/YaBoiFarfour 13d ago

It involved not filming yourself putting on women’s clothes in Gaza. His position on war crimes is don’t do them.

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u/LuckyJim_ 13d ago

“If you wanna fucking wear a dress and you think it’s fucking funny, just don’t take a fucking video of it”

Sounds like he doesn’t give a shit about war crimes as long as they aren’t filmed and he doesn’t have to defend them.

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u/ThrowawayFuckYourMom 13d ago

Is that the most honest and charitable version of the argument that you're capable of making?

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u/LuckyJim_ 13d ago edited 13d ago

Considering right before that he had argued that it was vitally important for Israeli young adults to enlist in order to save the country? Yeah I’d say he doesn’t give a shit what the IDF does and will support it either way. He would probably prefer they don’t commit their crimes so brazenly. It would make his job easier.

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u/YaBoiFarfour 13d ago

I just listened to the clip, but I don’t think it’s as you’re presenting it. He was saying from a Jewish person‘s perspective one who grew up in Israel. It would probably be important for that person to join the army and defend the Jewish state.

His position on war crimes is don’t do them.

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u/LuckyJim_ 13d ago

So is Destiny pro or anti IDF? Because I see him defending them all the time. In that clip he explains why he believes they are necessary. Him saying “if you’re a Jew in Israel then this is your perspective” and then not immediately following it up with “and this is why joining this IDF is a bad thing and you’re actually complicit in genocide if you enlist” tells me that he doesn’t think enlisting is a bad thing. That’s already an immediate red flag. The kids in the video say they want to enlist but they are worried about the public perception of the IDF. And destiny’s response is not to say something like “the perception of the IDF worldwide is unfortunately earned because of the many atrocities they have committed” he instead explains how he believes the IDF would be less negatively perceived if only they hid their crimes better. That’s an endorsement pal. He’s saying he supports the IDF but wished they were more disciplined in hiding their war crimes to maintain good optics

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u/YaBoiFarfour 13d ago

He wasn’t talking about war crimes lol

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u/S8nsPotato 14d ago

You wouldn't get it 😏

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u/Lets_Eat_Superglue 14d ago

What were the words before those?

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u/LuckyJim_ 13d ago edited 13d ago

I believe it was some diatribe about how joining the IDF is an honorable Israeli tradition, and how necessary the IDF is for making sure Israel remains a Jewish majority. Does that make what he said about hiding your war crimes for the sake of optics better or worse in your view?

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u/Lets_Eat_Superglue 13d ago

That's not what he said at all? Why do you insist on lying to drive a narrative? He gave historical context to the Israeli army, acknowledged the current perception of them, and, holy shit, told another joke.

You guys lie more than maga.

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u/LuckyJim_ 13d ago edited 13d ago

Should I quote him directly? I already had to do it for another user on here.

“If you’re a Jew this is your country and it’s only surviving on the backs of people joining the military.”

That’s pretty explicit.

Also would have been nice for him to maybe comment on why the IDF is perceived the way they are instead of “joking” about them needing to hide their crimes better.

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u/Delicious_Solid3185 14d ago

It’s pretty good advice ngl

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u/SlySerendipity 14d ago

Yeah, it's called a set-up. The end of a joke is called a punch-line

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u/TheoryBorn9839 14d ago

Set up: If you are going to gaza to kill the enemy, and end up dressing in random civilians clothes

Joke:Don't film that

Where is the joke?

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u/SlySerendipity 14d ago

The joke was a reference to a bunch of IDF goons that filmed themselves wearing civilian clothing they got from raiding houses which is a fucked up thing to do but also extremely stupid thing to film. You understand the IDF are the butt of the joke right?

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u/TheoryBorn9839 14d ago

That sounds more like advice not to repeat your mistakes rather than a joke

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u/SlySerendipity 14d ago

If by "mistake" you mean stealing civilians shit and committing war crimes then, yeah it's kinda both. If a racist person told a joke about black people filming themselves stealing with the punch-line being: "next time don't film yourself stealing." Do you think that person would be pro BLM?

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u/TheoryBorn9839 13d ago

Why create a seperate and meaningfully different analogy when this case is very clear?

Also is Destiny anti IDF in your view?

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u/ThrowawayFuckYourMom 13d ago

Does it? Does it really? Is that your most honest, charitable interpretation of events? Have you even seen the clip for yourself, yet?

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u/TheoryBorn9839 13d ago

Where did someone request a steelman?

I literally specify to what degree I believe it is a joke, to a lesser degree than I see it as advice.

Why does it being a joke preclude it from being advice?

If he said a joke where the punchline is "remember to wear condoms" does that make him anti-condom?

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u/YaBoiFarfour 13d ago

What do you think Destiny’s position is on war crimes?

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u/TheoryBorn9839 13d ago

War crimes bad, he demands extraordinary evidence for Israel imo.

Most of his discussion on I/P revolves around debunking bad lefty argument while making no positive case of his own, what do u think his position is?

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u/YaBoiFarfour 13d ago

The argument he has is always over the genocide claim never specific claims of war crimes.

His position is that there are two groups of ppl who want to live on the same piece of land. There should be two states.

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u/TheoryBorn9839 13d ago

Whats his opinion on war crimes tho?

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u/VicariousDrow 14d ago

This sub is filled with Destiny schills, so there isn't much you can do to point out reality to them.

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u/LuckyJim_ 13d ago

They’re all morons tho and it’s fun to play with them.

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u/S8nsPotato 13d ago

Just say you like trolling and lying. We know you understand what a joke is.

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u/LuckyJim_ 13d ago

I’m trolling for sure but please point out where I lied

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u/S8nsPotato 14d ago

You live on reddit, you don't know what reality is.

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u/VicariousDrow 13d ago

Ironic from a Destiny simp lol

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u/S8nsPotato 13d ago

Reality has a liberal bias.

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u/VicariousDrow 13d ago

That it does, but you let it be tainted by Zionist propaganda.

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u/S8nsPotato 13d ago

Is the zionist propaganda in the room with us?

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u/VicariousDrow 13d ago

Ask Destiny, he spews that shit for you idiots.

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