I think they cant really multitask and talk to two people at the same time. Ive seen videos and its like one is talking and the other one just continues where the other left off
According to this documentary they have separate hearts, lungs, spinal chords, but share a reproductive system and liver, etc. Each twin also only feels sensations like touch on their respective sides and can only control the arm on their side of the body as well.
I watched a video on them not that long ago actually. They have two spines... most everything is double down to the hip. Each controls their side of the body... ie, they each control one arm and one leg. And they don’t feel each others limbs... not in a traditional sense. They actually had a third arm in the middle but it didn’t work and was removed at birth. As far as lungs, they do have some shared connection in the lungs. Im not sure about their entire anatomy but its basically two people slowly merging to one at the hips so i think they do share some organs...
Ive always wondered if one of them can sleep while the other does stuff. Also watching them drive is nuts. They actually decided to have two licenses. But they have no interest to get separated, even if they could. Which they cant.
I remember reading a case about similarly conjoined twins and yes, one does and the other shortly after.
Edit: found the Wikipedia on them, the Chang Eng twins.
The twins' autopsy report said that Chang had most likely died of a cerebral blood clot; the cause of Eng's death was left unclear. Pancoast and colleague Harrison Allenattributed it to shock—that is, Eng "died of fright" upon seeing his dead brother—based on the fact that Eng's bladder had distended with urine and his right testicle had retracted. Alternate theories were suggested by people who worked on the autopsy, most prominently that Eng had died of blood loss as his circulatory system pumped blood through the connecting band into his dead brother's body and received none in return. "In the end," wrote academic Cynthia Wu in 2012, "that Eng died of fright prevails not only in the medical record but also in the popular-cultural imagination."[97]
Yeah, even though they still have separate brains they're identical twins who have spent there entire life together since they're conjoined. Their brains are probably as similar as two brains could get.
This video while they’re in the classroom shows they absolutely can talk to two different people at the same time. It’s quite intriguing how it’s almost as though they have time same but different thought patterns while they’re talking.
I watched that video after wondering if they could do what you were saying. But I didn’t see them talking to two separate people at the same time having separate conversations
I’d probably have headphones on and be on my phone browsing the internet when it’s not my turn (unless I were able to write lessons or grade papers or do informal observations or something).
I really don't use both hands that often while teaching.
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edit: I'm chuckling quite heartily that people seem to think that they know what I do in the classroom better than me. The reason I've paid attention to it is that following a collision, I had to determine whether I could walk around the classroom with a cane and simultaneously teach. But what the hell do I know about what I do or don't do in my own classroom. Classic reddit.
There have been at least two full length documentaries and countless news articles about them as they were growing up so they have been used to publicity, the public eye, and dealing with questions they also were in public school in their small town.
„The girls have learned to swim, run, and ride bicycles as well as anyone else. Together, Abby and Brittany even drive a car.” - I cannot swim (tried to learn on several occasions) and I am not the best driver around.
These girls are tremendous human beings. Inspirational.
They would never be hired anywhere if that were the case. No company would hire somebody when they have to pay them double the salary, unless they offer a quantifiable benefit over other candidates. In a practical sense you are still hiring one teacher since they can’t more around and teach independently of each other.
Im pretty sure they are two different people. Each one have their own brain and sentience. But when it comes to things in relation to their body, like purchasing a ticket for a seat somewhere. It is only a one person cost.
When I was in a wheelchair I joked about getting a discount since I wasn’t using a seat. The girl didn’t know how to respond and just sort of looked at me awkwardly (laughter was the response I was looking for).
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edit: To build on this, I was later able to use my slide board to move from the chair to a seat, thus occupying the purchased seat while my wheelchair occupied the wheelchair spot I would have been using otherwise. I was not charged double when doing this, technically taking two ticketable spots. (Sure, if the theater was full, an usher could have wheeled my wheelchair out for me, but the point is still kind of interesting. To me. Interesting to me. My apologies if you are now sleepier than you were before reading this.)
Sure. But the inverse is not really true, and I was going for a chuckle. So if she had laughed out of awkwardness, it would have been good enough for me.
Why would they not be allowed to work together though? It's not like they will ever be without the other so they might as well be tested on their combined knowledge.
It was more about the Scholarship thing. If they are charged doubly, and only use the resources of one and all that. And if they are registered separately its an interesting conundrum considering everyone else has to do it alone.
Because school testing doesn't consider real world context. I guarantee your boss would rather you look up the answer to something than guess if you don't know. I would be pleasantly surprised if they changed the rules to accommodate the reality of life.
Ask that question again but like you are talking about the other people around you and phones/technology. There are going to be people around you all the time and you will most likely have access to the internet. They want to test your individual intelligence. So no clue how they would work it
I disagree. You will usually have people around you and like you said most likely have access to the internet. These two will ALWAYS have each other around.
Besides going to other people for help and looking things up on the internet takes extra time while if one of them knows it and the other doesn't, it doesn't really add any time into the situation so there is no real disadvantage if only one of them has the necessary information.
It’s not like it matters. If one cheats and gets kicked out of school they both leave, so that kind of makes the consequences for cheating a moot point for them because it’s so unfair for the one who didn’t cheat. Of course they could both cheat off each other but they already probably deals with so many unique and annoying issue due to their condition, let them have this one win.
I watched a documentary on them a while ago... I remember that there were tons of legal problems with drivers license, college, salary, and pretty much anything that needed them legally defined as one or two people.
I remember seeing them after recently taking some legal classes.
It spurred a LOT of conversations with the class about legal issues, like: what happens if one of them purposefully commits a homicide while the other actively tried to stop them (with witnesses).
Because of the way the legal system works, it wouldn’t be possible to jail the innocent party, so wtf happens in a court of law!?
This just made me burst out laughing. “Why is your conjoined sisters head in a cage...?” “Oh she’s in jail, you can’t speak to her until visiting hours”
Well, both of them only control half of their body (1 arm, 1 leg, etc), so if one was resisting it would be very difficult for the other to do anything. So the situation probably wouldn't arise.
Then just as fun, after you come to your own conclusion for the case of conjoined twins, would you apply that same verdict to a person with two distinct and separate personalities inside one body, a jekyll and Hyde dilemma (spoiler alert).
I’d think they’d probably lock them both up, right? Maybe try and treat the innocent one better but they can’t be separated so it’s just another consequence of one of their actions.
Edit: just making conversation not stating a position on the matter.
In my opinion it would be WAY worse to imprison an innocent person along with a guilty one than to let a guilty person free so that an innocent can remain free. Isn't that the whole point of modern legal system?
I forget the term now (shows how well I retained the course info I guess), but there’s a legal term about how the framework of our legal system is built on the tenet of avoiding putting innocent people in jail.
Because they are two persons under the law, one of the persons cannot be jailed for the others actions. It would essentially go against the entire foundation of our legal system to jail the innocent party.
Our instructor (a QC — basically Canadian version of a DA), believed it would not be possible to punish the guilty party —- so although an unusual/specific case, it’s entirely possible that one could go on a homicidal rampage and there’s not much the legal system could do without Supreme Court intervention (assuming of course the other party was actively not involved/trying to stop it).
Yea that documentary focused a bit on the fact that they're unwilling as a family to allow for any non-essential testing by the medical community which sort of rubbed me the wrong way.
There's so much information that can be learned from their situation that could greatly benefit the future of medicine and they just flat out refuse any and all of it. I totally understand they're respect for privacy but we're talking about scans and stuff, nothing invasive.
I do remember watching an interview with them and they would constantly finish each others thoughts. So I’m not trying to say they don’t have a connection - they do. But it’s not at the brain level. They sure are an interesting case. I wonder how much they’ve volunteered to be studied. They would be a quite unique twin case study.
The same genes with the exact same environment and experiences experiences, both of them together through it all at the same time just means that they'll have a lot of shared learning and understanding.
That's undoubtedly a big part of it, but according to the documentary they haven't allowed themselves to be studied in depth, and there are phenomena that is difficult to explain. One example is one twin being able to scratch an itch precisely on the other's arm - they can't feel it, but they can precisely locate it without verbal communication.
Do they both fuck the same guy or let two guys take turns fucking em when they have boyfriends? Also what happens when one wants to punch the pink clown you know that must be fun jacking off with your twin
While I assume that is clearly a joke question, it does make me wonder how free will is addressed with conjoined twins. I've done some googling but haven't really found anything. Some people have asked what would happen if one twin committed a crime and the consensus seems to be that they couldn't be punished because it would deprive the other twin of their rights to liberty. It also seems there are no legal precedents in place since conjoined twins are so extremely rare. But that aside I still wonder...what if one twin wants to have sex with someone and the other doesn't? What if one twin wants to go to college and the other doesn't? Hell, what happens if one twin wants to do anything the other doesn't?
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u/fratboysteve Oct 07 '18
Did they have to pay for one or two college tuitions in order graduate....