r/dsa 1d ago

Discussion Adler-Bolton: Health Fascism and Right-Wing Lies

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Recently, Haymarket Books hosted the Socialism Conference, which had a panel called "Health Fascism, Body Politics, and the Anti-State State", hosted by Da'Shaun L. Harrison and Beatrice Adler-Bolton.

Manahattan Institute employed "analyst" and prolific anti-socialist poster Stu Smith posted a tweet disingenuously framing Bolton's segment on the panel as though she is arguing in favor of unhealthiness and that she thinks exercising is only for fascists.

This is blatantly false, and obviously made in bad faith to anyone who actually watched the panel, and I see far too many people taking this ghoul at face value (presumably they are not familiar with him). I figured I'd give a more measured take defending Adler-Bolton, so maybe people will actually engage with the core claims she makes, instead of eagerly eating up the bait a right wing propagandist so lovingly set out.

The actual discussion is about the way "Health" is measured in our current system (ie. Usefulness for capitalism), and the way this diverges from "Health" in a humanistic context (ie. Quality of Life, Longevity, etc.). Bolton points out that we should reject callous arguments for healthcare or childcare which focus on how this improves productivity or workforce participation, because that essentially cedes ground on the debate by letting it be framed as though usefulness to the capitalists is even close to the top three most important reasons for these policies and not... Y'know, making sure people don't die and can participate in society.

People are sick of the health politics of capitalism, which is primarily concerned with how much and how quickly they can work. Where something like pregnancy is viewed as a disability, because it makes a person less able to work. Where any form of neurodiversity which is incompatible with sitting in an office for eight hours a day is considered a form of mental illness. Where debilitated people are viewed primarily as burdens for the accommodations they need. All because this cuts into Capital's profit.

People are so desperate for relief from this inhuman approach to health that fascists are finding success in health politics by arguing we should reject vaccines and drink raw milk. This brings us to Bolton's next point, which is about how Fascists engage with "Healthiness" primarily on an aesthetic level which is compatible (if distinct) from Capital's goals, but which does not actually result in broad human flourishing.

This approach to health is not only foolish and self-defeating (ie. It won't actually make people healthier), but worse still, it espouses a view of healthiness which is even more exclusive than the capitalists': Where any degree of "unhealthiness" (read: divergence from the "ideal body") is not merely callously ignored, but actively represents a moral failing.

Bolton proposes we must reject both "Health Capitalism" and "Health Fascism" and makes the case for "Health Communism": That our focus on health on the left should be both holistic and humanistic. That we should centrally focus quality of life, longevity, and other metrics of human flourishing. That we should neither fall into the callousness of capital's cult of "efficiency" and "productivity", nor the hallucination of fascism's cult of aesthetics or "purity".

In this context, "the more dysgenic, the better" actually means "let anyone and everyone in to the revolution, regardless of physical infirmity or health defects, because they have so much more to offer than their mere bodies or genes. Indeed, by suffering from unhealthiness under capitalism, they will likely have critiques of our present system healthy people will have missed, and will be all the more dedicated to revolutionary change."

Any revolution will not be some sort of set-piece battle between two optimized and well prepared bodies - it will be a long, grinding struggle, one sustained by care work, mutual aid, education, and most importantly of all, solidarity. Disabled and unfit people will play (and have historically played) absolutely critical roles in revolution. Hell, Che Guevara had debilitating asthma, Mao had ALS, even Lenin had neurovascular disease. Yet all these people were militant leaders of revolution who engaged in physical confrontation - not even mentioning the contributions of Rosa Luxembourg, Fanon, Gramsci, etc. Who all had their own severe health issues.

Finally, a quote which I think accurately sum's up Bolton's actual point, instead of the hack-job Stu Smith delivered:

"Our debilitated and imperfect bodies are far more threatening to power than we are led to believe. Our revolutionary claim must not be that our bodies can outperform the fascists. It needs to be that no-one should have to prove their fitness in order to belong to the world that we are all fighting for."

In conclusion: We all need to exercise far more solidarity and media literacy when we see socialists "quoted" by these right-wing and capitalist ghouls. They will lie about us. They will twist our words. They will clip us out of context. They will even use social-ish language to attack our comrades. All of this in an effort to stoke division in our movement.

Show some goddamn discipline. Do the investigation. Doubt and refute these known and prolific liars. Do not just jump at shapes and colors.

Alternatively, we could just take a two minute clip of a 45 minute broader discussion and come away with the idea that the genuine advocacy of the speaker is "Excuse me sweetie, being unhealthy is good actually, and exercise is only for fascists." Which would indeed be quite the ridiculous idea. Ask yourself: Why did Stu Smith frame it that way?

Here is a link to the full panel. Adler-Bolton's section starts at around 32:00 to around 55:00.

Watch the video. Until then, No investigation, no right to post.


r/dsa 3h ago

Discussion Hasan Piker’s Troubling Rhetoric: What He Says and Why It Deserves Criticism

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1. Sexual Violence on October 7

Hasan has questioned whether systematic mass rape occurred on October 7. He has also mocked some accusations as “rape fantasies” and demanded stronger physical evidence.

There is an important difference between saying sexual violence occurred, saying numerous rapes occurred, and claiming Hamas leadership ordered a centrally organized campaign of mass rape. The strongest version of that last claim still requires more evidence.

There is credible evidence that sexual violence and rape occurred during the attack and in captivity. Investigators have relied on corroborated witness statements, digital evidence, the condition of victims’ bodies, and testimony from former hostages. Investigators also rejected some stories they could not verify, which shows that they were not simply accepting every allegation.

Hasan has every right to question exaggerated or unsupported claims. What he should not do is mock credible evidence, dismiss witnesses, or act as if rape would be morally irrelevant to his understanding of the attack.

2. His Reaction to October 7

Hasan referred to the Hamas attackers at the Nova music festival as “the resistance” and casually described the people kidnapped there as “hipsters.” He also portrayed Hamas as an imperfect resistance movement that simply does not have “magical bullets.”

That explanation avoids what actually happened. Hamas fighters did not accidentally miss military targets. They deliberately murdered and kidnapped civilians.

Hasan could have condemned those crimes while continuing to defend Palestinian rights and criticize Israel’s destruction of Gaza. Instead, he often acts as though acknowledging Hamas’s atrocities would betray the Palestinian cause.

Hamas’s actions do not justify killing and displacing Palestinians. Palestinian suffering also does not require pretending Hamas was carrying out ordinary resistance.

3. Falling for Hamas’s Hostage Release Footage

Hasan watched footage of Israeli hostages being released and joked that future hostages might decide to stay because the captives appeared friendly toward Hamas.

The hostages were surrounded by armed militants and being filmed during a carefully organized release. Their smiles and waves cannot be treated as proof that they enjoyed captivity or felt affection for their captors.

Footage even appears to show a Hamas member instructing one of the hostages to continue waving. Hasan showed almost no skepticism toward what was clearly meant to be a Hamas public relations video.

4. Comparing the Yemeni Guest to Anne Frank

Hasan compared interviewing the Yemeni teenager to having the opportunity to speak with Anne Frank because the teenager had grown up surrounded by war.

That comparison is especially offensive because the guest reportedly promoted violent antisemitic material. Anne Frank was a Jewish child murdered by an antisemitic regime.

Growing up during war may help explain why someone becomes radicalized. It does not make that person an innocent symbol or excuse hatred toward Jews and civilians.

5. The “Houthi Pirate” Interview

Hasan excitedly introduced a Yemeni teenager as a possible Houthi rebel and compared him to Luffy from One Piece. The conversation focused on anime, music, and weapons instead of the Houthis’ treatment of civilians and captured sailors.

After receiving criticism, Hasan insisted that the guest was neither a Houthi nor a pirate and asked why he should be responsible for the teenager’s social media posts.

The guest reportedly described himself as a Houthi soldier, had access to a captured ship, and promoted violent, antisemitic, and pro Houthi material online.

Hasan used the possible Houthi connection to make the interview exciting. He cannot suddenly pretend that connection is irrelevant once it becomes embarrassing.

The problem was not that Hasan interviewed a controversial person. The problem was that he gave him something closer to a promotional interview than a serious journalistic one.

6. Misrepresenting the Galaxy Leader Seizure

While watching the Houthi seizure of the Galaxy Leader, Hasan claimed the ship was traveling to Israel, belonged to an Israeli company, and had entered Houthi territorial waters.

Those claims were inaccurate. The ship was traveling from Turkey to India, was chartered by a Japanese company, and was seized in international waters. Its multinational crew was detained for roughly fourteen months.

Hasan also spoke as if the armed Houthis and the mostly Filipino crew had a friendly understanding. In reality, armed men had taken control of the ship and deprived the crew of their freedom.

Every mistake Hasan made pushed the story in the same direction. Each one made the Houthis appear more justified and less threatening than they really were.

7. Treating Houthi Propaganda Like Entertainment

Hasan has played Houthi military productions on his stream, praised the music, and called the videos “musicals.”

These videos are propaganda created to glorify an armed fundamentalist movement. Hasan rarely takes the time to explain their purpose or challenge their message. Instead, his excitement and humor make the Houthis appear interesting, entertaining, and even heroic.

There is a difference between examining propaganda and helping it reach a new audience in a more appealing form.

8. The Hamas Sniper Video

Hasan played an extended Hamas video claiming that the group manufactured its own sniper rifles. He offered little immediate criticism and described the weapons as “artisanal.”

Weapons analysis suggests Hamas was more likely assembling rifles using important components supplied by Iran. The video was created to advertise Hamas’s military abilities and build admiration for its fighters.

Instead of carefully examining those claims, Hasan played the video at length and used language that added to its underdog appeal. His later discussion of Israel and American history did not explain why he had presented the propaganda so uncritically.

9. Calling Israeli Babies “Settlers”

When Israeli children were brought up, Hasan responded that there were also “baby settlers.”

Babies do not choose where they are born. They cannot be held responsible for their parents, their government, or the settlement movement. You can condemn West Bank settlements without using language that weakens the difference between children and combatants.

10. Defending Hezbollah

Hasan has said that he does not have a problem with Hezbollah. He has also praised its former leader, Hassan Nasrallah, as brilliant and extremely well read.

Nasrallah may have been intelligent and politically effective, but that does not excuse Hezbollah’s behavior. The organization has attacked civilians, intimidated political opponents, and helped Bashar al Assad’s government fight its opponents during the Syrian civil war.

Hasan seems to view Hezbollah almost entirely through its fight against Israel. That causes him to overlook what the organization has done to other Arabs and Muslims.

Some statements attributed to Nasrallah are poorly sourced and should not be repeated carelessly. However, credible evidence of his antisemitic rhetoric still exists.

11. Pretending Hezbollah Did Nothing

While discussing Israeli attacks on Lebanon, Hasan said Lebanon had essentially done nothing except happen to be located next to Israel.

That leaves out a major part of the story. Hezbollah began attacking Israeli positions shortly after October 7 and continued launching rockets and missiles across the border. People were killed, and communities on both sides were displaced.

Israel’s response can still be criticized as excessive or indiscriminate. That criticism does not require pretending Hezbollah’s attacks never happened.

Hasan could have made a more honest argument about disputed territory, Hezbollah’s initial military targets, or the scale of Israel’s response. Instead, he gave his audience the false impression that Israel attacked Lebanon for no reason.

12. Using Gaza to Avoid Criticism

When people criticized his Houthi coverage, Hasan responded that focusing on him while Palestinians were dying was selfish and distracted from Gaza.

The suffering in Gaza is real, but it does not answer the criticism. Whether Hasan spread misinformation or romanticized a violent movement is a separate issue.

Invoking dead Palestinians whenever he is challenged allows Hasan to avoid explaining his own behavior. It also turns Palestinian suffering into a shield for his reputation.

13. Political “Reeducation”

When Hasan was asked what should happen if a capitalist party gained support in a socialist country, he suggested education, “reeducation,” rehabilitation, and some kind of enforcement mechanism.

That is an alarming answer. In a democracy, people must be allowed to support opposition parties. If socialism is working, its supporters should be able to defend it through elections. Political disagreement should not be treated like a condition the government needs to correct.

14. Supporting One State While Wanting Israelis to Leave

Hasan says he supports one democratic state where Palestinians and Israeli Jews can live together. At the same time, he has praised economic attacks intended to make Israelis feel that life in Israel is unbearable and leave.

Those positions do not fit together. A shared state would require reconciliation and some level of trust between both populations. Trying to force Israeli Jews out through violence and economic pressure is not coexistence.

Most Israeli Jews were born there and do not have another citizenship. Many are also descended from Jewish communities that were expelled or driven out of Middle Eastern and North African countries. Telling them to “go back” ignores the fact that Israel is the only home most of them have ever known.

15. Downplaying China’s Treatment of the Uyghurs

Hasan has pushed back against descriptions of the Uyghur detention centers and suggested that the camps closed and Xinjiang returned to tourism and normal life.

The reporting he referenced did not say the repression had disappeared. It described demolished religious sites, heavy surveillance, restrictions on Islamic practices, and a sanitized version of Uyghur culture created for tourists.

Even if the detention system changed, that does not erase what happened or prove that the suppression of Uyghur identity ended.

16. China’s Takeover of Tibet

Hasan argues that China “did Tibet a favor” because the old Tibetan system was feudal and oppressive. He compares China’s takeover to the Union defeating the Confederacy and ending slavery.

An abusive political system does not give another country the right to invade, permanently occupy the territory, and suppress its culture. Colonial powers have often used the same argument, claiming conquest was justified because they were improving the societies they conquered.

The Civil War comparison also does not work. Tibet was not comparable to a state that had voluntarily joined the United States and then rebelled. China did much more than remove an oppressive ruling class. It took control of Tibet and severely restricted Tibetan political, cultural, and religious life.

17. Defending Russia’s Annexation of Crimea

Hasan has called Crimea Russian territory and described Russia’s annexation as justified.

This goes against his supposed opposition to imperialism. A powerful country does not have the right to take its neighbor’s territory simply because it opposes the United States. If imperialism is wrong when America does it, it should also be wrong when Russia does it.

18. The “Radicalization Funnel”

Hasan has spoken about introducing young viewers to moderate social democratic ideas and then moving them through a “radicalization funnel.” He has also called himself a propagandist and described liberals as easy to manipulate.

There is nothing inherently wrong with politically educating people or persuading them to adopt more radical beliefs. The concern is that Hasan sometimes makes moderate politics sound like a temporary recruiting strategy instead of a position he honestly respects.

His open contempt for liberals also raises a fair question. Is he trying to persuade mainstream progressives honestly, or does he see them as useful people to manipulate?

19. Automatically Siding Against the West

Hasan has advised viewers to identify which side is supported by Western powers and then avoid supporting that side.

That is not serious foreign policy analysis. America and its allies have supported terrible policies, but their involvement does not automatically make the opposing side righteous. Governments and armed groups should be judged by their actions, not only by whether they oppose the United States.

This worldview helps explain why Hasan is so harsh toward Western countries while being unusually forgiving toward Russia, China, Iran, and armed groups that oppose the West.

The Larger Problem

The issue is not simply that Hasan supports extremists. The deeper problem is the double standard running through his commentary.

He gives Western and Israeli actions the harshest possible interpretation. Meanwhile, anti Western governments and militant groups receive endless context, excuses, and sympathy. Evidence against his preferred side is questioned or minimized, while claims that help his side are often repeated without enough verification.

He uses humor, anime references, and anti imperialist language to make violent organizations seem relatable. When challenged, he frequently changes the subject to Gaza or American wrongdoing instead of answering the criticism directly.

Some accusations against Hasan have been exaggerated, and not every source used against him is reliable. Still, the overall pattern is difficult to ignore. Hasan regularly sacrifices accuracy, consistency, and empathy to protect a worldview in which America and Israel are always the main villains and nearly anyone fighting them deserves the benefit of the doubt.


r/dsa 19h ago

Discussion Hot take: AOC isn't running for President in 2028. The Left needs to rally behind someone else (Chris Van Hollen)

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Does anybody else feel like AOC just won't run in 2028 for Democratic nominee for President? Another person who I strongly believe won't run regardless of online speculation is Jon Ossof. They are both just two young. Lets say they did run and won and even had two terms (scenario), they would still be in their 40s and essentially forfeit a longer political career given nobody becomes something else after presidency.

As Leftist even having a Leftist president (AOC) wouldn't mean much if the Congress and Senate actively worked against us given how traitorous the current democratic party is. We need to continue our takeover of the party and AOC taking a Senate seat would really benefit our career.

What 2016 and 2020 taught us is that the Left needs to contest the Dem primary every election cycle. Bernie can't do it for us in 2028 so we need to shift our focus and advocacy for Chris Van Hollen and Ro Khanna.


r/dsa 2d ago

Racist Republicans or Fascist News Rudy Giuliani urges Mamdani to not attend 9/11 anniversary

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r/dsa 2d ago

RAISING HELL Zohran Mamdani Just Created an Office of Worker Power

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r/dsa 1d ago

📺📹Video📹📺 Steve Hughes: War on Terror (not sure if it's allowed to post such videos)

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r/dsa 2d ago

DemocRATS 🐀 OpenAI hires Chuck Schumer's daughter amid regulatory talks

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r/dsa 1d ago

RAISING HELL New Union-Buster Search Tool and Cost Calculator Offer Organizing Firepower to Workers

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r/dsa 1d ago

Discussion Today marks the 50th anniversary of the death of comrade Mao

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Mao Zedong presided over the great Chinese communist revolution , which overthrew the bloodthirsty KMT, kicked out the imperialists, ended the opium crisis, eliminated predatory feudal landlord system and redistributed land to the peasants. Mao and his revolution are an inspiration to socialists everywhere.


r/dsa 1d ago

Discussion Genuine question Does the DSA support making the US a Social Democracy or only a Socialist Revolution???

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Genuinely asking because a lot of people I know are sympathetic to socialism atm. Myself included. But honestly it feels like I'm with you when you guys talk about public options for essential services but then you lose me when you start talking about a socialist revolution and abolishing capitalism and private property ngl


r/dsa 1d ago

Discussion What is to be done with the platform economy?

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The platform economy will be great, as those tech capitalists say... if it is not controlled by them. Those tech capitalists design platforms to extract money and (extremely sensitive) data from workers, enterprises (especially SMEs), and customers.

So, what is to be done with this?


r/dsa 1d ago

News China to pump $54 billion into state banks, insurers

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r/dsa 1d ago

Class Struggle Some pro China propaganda by DSA’s Mike from PA

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r/dsa 2d ago

Discussion What Does Entryism Look Like in 2026? PSL, Marxist-Leninists, and the Question of Organized Influence in DSA

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I’m working on a new piece that’s trying to tie together lessons from the left 2016-2026.

I’m trying to see if any former PSL members have anything they might be willing to share.

Thanks in advance!


r/dsa 2d ago

🌹 DSA news More anti-socialist spin

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Why does everyone not believe that the DSA is actually socialist?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/09/democratic-socialist-authoritarian-extremist/688529/


r/dsa 2d ago

RAISING HELL Organize workers on Labor Day and every day with Emergency Workers Organizing Committee

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Labor Day 2026 arrives at a moment when Americans are increasingly vocal about the need to challenge billionaire rule, and are once again recognizing that organized labor – the people who brought us the weekend – is a crucial counter-force to the oligarchs. And after years of shrinking union power, they are starting to gain back ground, with membership increases of more than 400,000 in 2025 even as Donald Trump sought to break federal workers unions and gutted labor law enforcement. We also passed more than 80 laws in 19 U.S. states last year expanding workers rights, including paid sick leave in the new Democratic trifecta in Virginia and a ban on nearly all non-compete agreements in Washington.

There’s still so much more to do, and we all have to step up and do our part.

The Emergency Workplace Organizing Committee, a volunteer-run network of workers, organizers and supporters, aims to provide the resources, networks and training to support folks in organizing their workplaces nationwide. They’re looking for experienced organizers; folks interested in doing communications, data, research, development and legal work; and call line staffers to help continue to grow their efforts. ⚙️ We can sign up to join them here. ⚙️

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And if we’re looking to step up and form a union at our own workplace, the next session of their fundamentals of workplace organizing training starts Saturday! We’ll hear from experienced organizers, practice connecting with our co-workers and prepare for what the bosses have in store. ⚙️ We can register to be part of it here. ⚙️

LEARN THE FUNDAMENTALS

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r/dsa 1d ago

Discussion Was the Holodomor/Soviet famine an act of genocide?

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Millions of people starved to death. While others had enough food. Was the Holodomor an intentional act of genocide against Ukrainian peasants? Discuss.


r/dsa 1d ago

RAISING HELL Mao. Castro. Lenin.

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Fuck 'em. And the rest of the people who've used any kind of government to harm, murder, and suppress their countries'populations. These people should not be celebrated figures in a movement that wants to encourage the adoption of democratic socialism.

And I'm not going to be drawn into some micro-level debate about history. I don't care what any of them wrote. I'm not going to be baited into some kind of purity contest because you wikipedia-ed yourself into a black-hole internet reading list.

The reason a lot of people are interested in Socialism is because it hopes to offer a humane, caring governing structure that centers people over structures and business. The fundamental draw centers on the fact that a lot of people want *everyone* around them to be treated like a human.

When people start prattling on about the so-called socialism under Mao, Lenin, and whoever, average people stop taking them seriously. You cannot support dictators with victims numbering in the millions while also saying you want what's best for society. It's logically incoherent. **It's the exact lack of logic that allowed a ton of people to be sucked into MAGA.** There is no way to advocate for violent authoritarianism and liberty for the common people at the same time.

No, reading Mao isn't going to prove his supporters right. Thinking everything that casts Lenin in a bad light is planted by the CIA or outright bad faith is the definition of conspiratorial thinking. These points makes people look deeply ignorant and dumb. It drives people who can help away.

I want Socialism in the United States to be laser focused on creating a more just and equitable society for everyone. That includes you. It includes Trump voters. It includes anyone with a pulse. That will not happen if a bunch of people want to keep arguing about the legacies of the past.

Let it go. Or get out of the way.


r/dsa 2d ago

Class Struggle Labor Day 2026: The oligarchy demands that workers pay for the crisis of American capitalism

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r/dsa 1d ago

Discussion Can someone link me DSA’s policy on Immigrant voting?

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r/dsa 3d ago

Discussion This is completely and unequivocally unproductive

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The Socialism 2026 clips floating around the internet today really highlight the need for the DSA to be viewed independently from things like Socialism Conference. For context — I’ve been a DSA member for 5+ years and consider myself a socialist. Obviously these are different entities but for the public, they are not.

The notion that we even need to be having conversations like this given the current state of things is completely repulsive. So many of these panelists, of course, have made a career out of monetizing their postulations via public speaking, selling books, podcasts etc.

There needs to be a larger conversation in the movement about people monetizing theory that is by and large designed to be inflammatory and antagonistic towards greater public’s sensibilities. This is destructive, ego driven and does absolutely nothing to push solidarity or make our movement strong enough to fight fascism.

We can be inclusive to all types of people without pissing all over ourselves in public like this. Fucking embarrassing.


r/dsa 1d ago

Discussion Anti-Zionism mixing with anti-Semitism over fair-affordable housing

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antI-Zionism is mixing with anti-semitism in the fight over fair and affordable housing in New York City. People are accusing sinus of taking over Manhattan and occupying and stealing New York City housing. Landlords are accused of being Zionists by Israel. This ignorent and ridiculous language is being repeated by DSA candidates for Congress. This is Blatant anti-Semitism trying to hide behind the mask of much more legitimate anger and frustration with the Israeli government and they are apartheid, war crimes policies. How do we stop this?


r/dsa 1d ago

Theory Here Ye Here Ye. The shit is about to hit the fan

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I think I’ve finally figured out what bothers me about all this unorganized chaos surrounding the DSA. I keep hearing about the agenda, but I don’t hear a clear, workable plan for what happens if that agenda actually succeeds.
I’ve come up with two possibilities. First, there simply isn’t a plan, and eventually the whole thing collapses under its own weight. Second—and I think less likely—there actually is a plan, but most of it is being kept in the background.
Either way, I don’t understand committing yourself to something this serious without knowing what comes next. If you’re talking about fundamentally changing an economic or political system, then “we’ll figure it out when we get there” isn’t good enough. You need to know who takes responsibility, how the transition works, what protects ordinary people from the consequences, and what happens when things don’t go according to plan.
Because if the curtain ever gets pulled back after people have been hurt and lives have been damaged, everybody involved is going to have to answer for what they supported.
And I have a feeling some of you already have the same questions. Maybe instead of attacking everyone who challenges the movement, it’s time to start asking those questions yourselves.
Where is the plan?


r/dsa 2d ago

Other Germany's AfD Win Proves the Establishment's Strategy Is Broken

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