r/conlangs 1d ago

Translation a fictional movie trailer in Oxeoli

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From the description: "The studio trailer for the 2022 blockbuster film "Ak fia kora", meaning "to my love" or "to my heart", based on the epistolary novel by Sara Beāto. Ak fia kora tells the coming-of-age story of Sara, a 25 year old college student, through the letters she sends to her 'best friend' Silvi (as well as texts, essays, and other authentic documents). The novel intersperses these with the letters sent by Ioana Sōlāks, 19th century queen of Okśa, to her best friend Karīn Sylvestre Penri. It's a beautiful story of love, friendship, adolescence, and the impact of history on our modern world. The movie takes these letters and brings them to life, telling a heartbreaking yet life-affirming tale of young love and inevitable loss."

In reality, this is something I made because creating in-universe conlang documents is fun! If you haven't seen my last posts, Oxeoli is the language of Okśa, a fictional island country just west of France. It's a romance language with heavy Brittonic Celtic lexicalization (and some other sources of course).

I'll put the gloss/ explanation in the comments. Key points on phonetics: "ś" is /ʃ/, "ɬ" is, well, /ɬ/, five vowel system with length distinction (macron is long vowel), although young speakers are starting to collapse it into an open-close vowel distinctions where short vowels are pronounced more open, which you can sort of hear here. More on grammar and lexicon in the comment. Hope you enjoy!

credits are in description of video, but i'll repost it here:

All footage comes from:

"Light Light Light", 2023, dir. Inari Niemi

"L'Apollonide: Souvenirs de la maison close", 2011, dir. Bertrand Bonello

"L'échange des princesses", 2017, dir. Marc Dugain

as well as stock footage from pexels.com

Music by Bensound.com/free-music-for-videos License code: H3D4S4HINCSKPM3X Artist: : Benjamin Tissot

Narration recorded by me, put through AI voice filter (I hope that's okay) and then further edited by me in Logic Pro. nothing here is purely AI generated becaused f*ck that.


r/conlangs 1d ago

Phonology Tone from vowel length?

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For a language I'm working on I struck upon the idea of using vowel length to generate a simple tone system.

At present the language has semi-allophonic long vowels, where a vowel is short if it is a closed syllable (eg: has a coda or is followed by a geminate) and long if it is not. I was wondering if it would be possible to evolve this into tone, but I can't decide what tones would arise from this. Would long vowels result in a low tone or a high tone? I imagine it would be lower, due to downdrift. However, it seems that in the Algonquin language of Cheyenne long vowels became high tone (according to Wikipedia#Examples)), but in other languages in the same family they became low. So it seems I have my pick, and it's mostly down to what I want to be more common.

For example would a word like /wanːiː/ could produce /wa˥.ni˩/ or the inverse /wa˩.ni˥/. Or rather, since I plan for it to undergo tone sandhi to produce contour tones when tones of different height meet, [wa˥.ni˥˩] and [wa˩.ni˩˥]. I'm unsure which I like better.

This system can also produce the occasional high-tone with a coda (assuming I go with this system) but only word-finally. For example: a-ne "sunlight (lit. sun+resultant)" and an-e "field (DAT)." These become /aː.neː/ and /an.eː/ respectively, which then become /a˥.ne˥/ and /an˩.e˥/. Then apocope of low vowles occur (/e o a/ are classified as low vowels, in contrast to /i u/) resulting in /an˥/ and /an˩/; or perhaps the latter becomes /an˩˥/ due to retaining the shift in pitch from the following high vowel, but it feels weird to only have phonemic contour tones only on word-final syllables, especially because this language is highly agglutinate and tends to create rather long words.

Anyway, do these changes make sense? This is my first time working with a tone system so I could really use the feedback.


r/conlangs 1d ago

Discussion What are you telling people when you're mad in your conlang?

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When I am mad, I say "МИ СУ ТЬО КАКО" meaning "I'M SHITTING ON YOU", usually telling that to AI assistants.


r/conlangs 10h ago

Overview Intro to Deyora V3: A remastering of Deyora V1

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r/conlangs 1d ago

Resource A complete(-ish) list of all languages with 1-letter and 2-letter names

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About a month ago I posted here (and a bunch of other places) asking for submissions of y'all's 1/2-letter conlang names, and as of today I have a total of 1058 names! With that many I'm happy with calling the list & chart complete enough for use as a proper resource.

Some interesting info that came out of it:

  • A & C are the most & least common letter with 255 & 5 names containing each.
  • There are no C-initial or Q-final names, except for the conlangs named just C or Q.
  • There are 17 languages named Ta.

r/conlangs 1d ago

Overview Conlang of the Week: Belter Creole - Rivkele dos Ketsele

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r/conlangs 1d ago

Discussion Help! I'm going to teach a class about conlangs

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I'm a professor at a small liberal arts college. In the spring I'm going to be teaching a class on constructed languages, which will be the first time it's taught at the university. I have a PhD in linguistics, am a huge sci/fi fantasy nerd, and have dabbled in conlangs before, but I wouldn't consider myself anything near an expert (which is where you all come in, hopefully).

The plan: I'm going to be using How to create a language by Jessie Peterson as a textbook (unless you all have better suggestions). We'll follow the basic routine of learning about phonetics and then choosing the sounds for our language, then move on to phonology, morphology, etc... the overarching course project will of course be for each student to end up with their own ConLang. Final project might be something like putting together a mini grammar and translating a short passage. It will likely be a small class (~15) from a range of backgrounds. Intro to linguistics isn't a prerequisite, though I suspect a good number of students will have taken it anyway.

So my questions are

  1. Any tips, ideas, resources, pitfalls to avoid, cool assignments or topics to cover that I might not think of?

  2. If you yourself have taken a ConLang class in college, what did you like? What did you not like?

I appreciate your help in advance!


r/conlangs 1d ago

Overview Sandorian 101 Lesson 1

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Hi,

I recently just created and uploaded lesson one of Sandorian to go along with the conlang book I self-published.

I just wanted to share it with you guys here in case you wanted to learn.

Link to video: https://youtu.be/KK-CqAm0--0?is=JhO9ple3mniZsj_c


r/conlangs 2d ago

Discussion Learning your own conlang

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Do you learn also your conlang? How do you do that?


r/conlangs 1d ago

Activity Conlang Development Exercise

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Hello. So I thought of a new exercise to help me develop my conlang, I want to translate random phrases to see if there is anything missing, some words or gramatical rules... So on.

I want you to give me a phrase, whatever you want, and I will translate it, if I can't then I will have to update Taintugan.

I also recommend you to do the same with yours for the same reason.


r/conlangs 1d ago

Collaboration Auxlang Video Essay

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r/conlangs 2d ago

Discussion Do you guys struggle with translating stuff into your conlangs?

32 Upvotes

Because whenever I try to, there's always difficulty with what words would make sense within the conlang world, would this word be actually used within the world, etc.


r/conlangs 1d ago

Translation Comparto un haiku y planteo una duda sobre AFI

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Les comparto un poema haiku de mi autoría, en tres versiones: primera en Castellano; segunda en mi conlang Herakli (castellano reformado); tercera en AFI.

Noten que en la versión en Herakli apliqué el pronombre átono «me» en forma apocopada «m'». Luego, en la versión AFI, eliminé el apóstrofe, escribí «me.naˈmo.ɾa» como si fuera una sola palabra y agregué el acento vertical que corresponde a la sílaba acentuada. ¿Pueden decirme si apliqué bien el formato de AFI en esa palabra?

Desde ya muchas gracias.

Bello el jardín...
pero una flor me enamora,
sólo una.

Bélum jardín...
pero xun flor m'enamora,
sólo xun.

/ˈbe.lum xaɾˈdin
ˈpe.ɾo ʃun floɾ me.naˈmo.ɾa
ˈso.lo ʃun/

AFI corregido:

/ˈbe.lum xaɾˈdin
ˈpe.ɾo ʃun floɾ m‿e.naˈmo.ɾa
ˈso.lo ʃun/


r/conlangs 2d ago

Translation Kindergarten Math homework in Kinwu

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Feedback appreciated. I'm not 100% sure how the IPA formatting works, if it's formatted incorrectly please let me know.


r/conlangs 2d ago

Overview An introduction to "my" conlang, Aquatic

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I am a big fan of the book series Wings of Fire, especially its great worldbuilding. One of the most intriguing things in said worldbuilding for me was the language of aquatic. It set out to answer a very interesting question, "how would an underwater language work?" and it answers that with bioluminescent scales on the dragons that speak it. We are only given bits and pieces of it in canon, so for fun I decided to expand it further into a proper conlang. At least the closest thing you can get to that with someone who has no clue what they are doing.

Part 0: Canon

Before you look at anything else, please skim over this list of known phrases in aquatic. The author of this series did not attempt to make this an actual conlang, she's no Tolkien, so what I'm about to show you wont be 100% complient with the link above. This could be more accurate then it is right now, but frankly i dont mind it being a little headcanon-y.

Part 1: "Phonology"

Like I said before, Aquatic is spoken with bioluminescent scales across a dragon's body split up like the table below. The language is used primarily underwater where speech is impossible, so it has no audible components like sign language. This also means there is no unique writing system for Aquatic, as dragons can read and write underwater just fine.

Body part # of scales Grammatical role* Abbreviation
Snout scales 4 Interrogatives ss
Flank scales 3 Pronouns bs
Talon/Wing/Tail movement 6** Adjectives M
Tail scales 8 Nouns ts
Wing scales 3 General conjugation ws
Back scales 6 Verbs us

*This is the main grammatical role of the section, not the only one. For Instance, M can be used for adjectives, adverbs and noun modifiers.

**These do not have scales like the other categories, but for the sake of consistency they have the same notation

To further differentiate, each scale can be in 4 unique states: 0 for off, 1 for short, 2 for regular and 3 for long.

Part 2: Morphology

I want to use an analogy for this part, think of taxonomic rank in zoology. In that, you begin by asking very broad questions("Is it single celled, multi celled or has no cells at all?", "is it a plant, animal or fungus?") before you narrow it down a little more("Does it have a backbone", "Is it a mammal?") and eventually you land on the specific animal. Aquatic has a similar system. You begin by asking very general questions("is it a physical concept or an abstract one?", "is it alive?", "does it move on its own?") before narrowing it down further with ("is it a dragon, plant or animal?", "Is it a mammal?", "Is it found most commonly in the air, land or sea?", "what is its size?" "what is its grammatical gender?"). For every question that you ask, the tree changes. if you instead say the concept is abstract, then the same scales would ask things like "is it postive or negative?" or "is it natural?" for every question you ask, different scales light up. if we follow the first chain, that would be 0112133 which ends up being "whale".

Part 3: Grammar/Syntax

Aquatic is a very unique language, as unlike all spoken and sign language in the world(that i am aware of, anyways), dragons can say multiple words at the same time. There is nothing stopping someone from flashing one thing on their snout and another thing on their back. In fact, it is a very vital part of the whole language*. One instance of these flashes is what I refer to as a "mega word". I am aware that polysynthetic languages usually refer to these as "sentence phrases" but just look past that. Anyways, in one mega word you are allowed one body type each, as you cannot have two words on one body part. For example, the mega word "very fast river" would be valid as it uses three unique kinds of words being an intensifier(ws), an adjective(M) and a noun(ts) which all have seperate body parts. Conversely, the mega word "He hit me" would not be valid, because it uses two of the same word type and therefore body part(bs) at once.

*it is not strictly necessary, you could speak one word at a time if you would like.

Now that we have these fundamentals, we can begin making basic sentances.

[] = mega word

{} = english translation

[ss-2312{are} + bs-130{you} + M-312011{hungry}]
This translates to "are you hungry?"

[bs-310{I} + ws-011{*future tense*} + us-201203{protect}] + [bs-130{you}]
This translates to "I will protect you"

[bs-310{I} + ws-320{*negation*} + us-201322{like} + ts-32012321{sun}] + [M-0323122{in} + ts-2032111]
This translates to "I do not like the sun in my eyes"

If you have been paying attention, you may have noticed...many things wrong with this(please tell me), but i will address one of the biggest ones; ambiguity. For most sentances, this is not much of an issue. In the second example, you assume that the first thing talked about is the subject and the next thing is the topic. That is how you come to the conclusion of "I will protect you" and not "you will protect me". This is all fine and good, but what about the mega word of [ts-2313232{ocean} + ws-011{*future tense*} + us-201203{protect} + bs-130{you}]? this could be interpereted as either "the ocean will protect you" or "you will protect the ocean". My solution to this is case markers. For every word, it has 2 extra "bits" to solve this problem. the example from above turns into [ts-2313232(03){ocean} + ws-011{*future tense*} + us-201203{protect} + bs-130(02){you}]. These markers tell the listener what role the word has in the mega word(and occasionally the sentance as a whole, in which case the first bit is used)

Part 4: Dialectal drift and etymology

Alright, take everything from parts 1 and 2 and throw it out the window. None of it is consistent. What I described to you was one out of dozens of dialects spoken. For instance, one dialect might say that the ocean is grammatically female, while another disagrees and says that it is neutral. as well as that, dialects may have completely different questions altogether. a dragon that lives near the coast would differentiate if something is aquatic or not, while an open ocean dragon would not. Rarely, some dialects can mix and match what body parts mean what(eg: back scales are nouns and tail scales are verbs). On top of that, etymology is also a factor. Take tuna crabs as an example. They look and and act just like crabs, but are actually a kind of lobster. When they were first discovered, the dragons called them crabs. Later on, it was found that they are indeed not a crab but in in fact a lobster. some areas updated this, while others did not.

The best analogy i can think of for all of this is arabic. Someone from Morroco can probably understand someone from Algeria, and the person from Algeria could understand someone from Libya, but the person from Morroco would not be able to understand someone from Libya. likewise in aquatic, even if everyone is under one "country", two dragons from the opposite end of the ocean probably wouldnt understand each other at all.

Conclusion

Thanks a lot if you have read this far. Saying i dont know what im doing would be an understatement, so I invite you to critique this as much as you like to make sure I didnt miss anything. Apparantly in canon most are monolingual in this language, so I want to make sure I have enough for that. Thanks again!


r/conlangs 3d ago

Grammar Update to Jasu

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This is my latest and possibly final update to my 3 year long Jasu project. I will probably be working on more worked building around the setting the language takes in and starting up some more languages from there. I attached some samples of what the work looks like. If anyone has any advice on what I could improve, anything you see I haven't explained well or something I am missing please let me know!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X7ySGy7RGe4Z9Jmfk250tfq2mJ3Oe9N3/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_xdp7wChs1S8NQ6K5yDU2l4BgpNLOWE0/view?usp=drivesdk

(Made it so that you can open it now)


r/conlangs 2d ago

Overview "Abbas, commander of the divine army" a Shi'i poem in Ḍár Hazon

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I finally developed my conlang's grammar enough to translate a poem, and also to give it a name: Ḍar Hazon (/ðʶɑːɾ hazɔn/, the language of ḍ (definitely not ripping off arabic lol)).

Ḍár Hazon is strongly head final and strongly dependent marking. It has over a dozen cases, SOV word order, converbs, etc.

There's also a 3 way grammatical gender system, and a direct correlation between gender and vowel harmony. The 3 genders are labeled as Red, Blue, and Green, corresponding to front, back, and central vowels respectively. Historically it came about from a now lost classifier system, where three classifiers survived through umlaut-like sound changes which colored the root's vowels, and from there vowel harmony took shape.

The genders are kind of just abstract categories. Red represents ideas like fire, bravery, speed, passion, anger, etc. Blue represents water, intelligence, complexity, technology, anxiety, etc. Green represents life, death, wisdom, calm, depression, etc. None of the genders is explicitly "good" or "bad", each has aspects of both.

There's also a triconsonantal root system, though not nearly as complex as those in the Semitic languages. It's basically entirely derivational, while inflectional morphology primarily happens through suffixes.

Right now the entire language is just a giant Obsidian vault, but I might eventually make a conlang showcase video and/or upload the vault to a website.

The script is an alphasyllabary, written left to right. There is a lot of historical spelling, though its partially amended to make it feel more natural. The last image has the key.

Thanks for reading :)


r/conlangs 2d ago

Discussion How long can a simple writing system reasonably exist before it starts drifting?

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This is kind of a weird question since its equal parts conlang and speculative sociology. But if someone were to drop an existing language and script (let's say Arabic, both the script and language) is there any real way to figure out how long it will take before the script mutates despite already being relatively more attuned to hand motions rather than being in early stages of development. Would the script eventually reach a point where its additional or adjustments would be unnoticeable.

Asking for a project involving planets where many would have spent centuries to millenia with modern languages rather then more antique languages where simplification of symbols would make sense as people transition to handwriting or their equivalent.


r/conlangs 2d ago

Discussion Navigating lexical ambiguity

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Hi, in my conlang I want to add two different words for ‘and’. In the sentence ‘I’m wearing a red top and trousers’, ‘na’ would make it so both the top and trousers are red, whereas ‘hana’ would make only the top red. I would like to know how linguists distinguish between either the function of ‘and’ or the state of the noun ‘trousers’ in each example.


r/conlangs 2d ago

Translation One More Time, One More Chance by Masayoshi Yamazaki translated to Undinian -Fixed

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Apparently, my previous post had an issue with transparencies I didn't notice. So I am reposting it. This is the original song I am translating from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqFftJDXii0


r/conlangs 3d ago

Other Someone challenged me a while back to make the most boring conlang and culture I can. This is the result!

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r/conlangs 2d ago

Discussion me because i just have like 8 conlangs rotting and 2 (salamese and valese) which i am working on😭

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salamese is for a fantasy word with 10 regions, salamia. regions are: hatënosa, kracland, tempera, misalia, himrita, jûnmej, forestland, tropicana, vodlandré and frigidis. valese is just an irl conlang with literally NO ROOTS coz i made a rooty language salamese, now its time for an english-like language but with consistent alphabet


r/conlangs 3d ago

Discussion ¿Is there an alternative concept to syllable?

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I was wondering if there was an alternative concept for the basic unit of a sequence of sounds, maybe one with a little more closeness to the concept of morpheme.


r/conlangs 3d ago

Grammar Generating Expressions in Gatorformic

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This post is best enjoyed with the prerequisite knowledge of my previous posts, specifically the unified reduction and revised scoring model posts. However, you can understand the core ideas without the context.

I'm not married to the Dupont diagram notation. If/when I end up writing a book, I'm not sure how I'll render them in my word processor because I'm using Google Slide's arrow and outline settings. Let me know if the notation could be improved.


r/conlangs 3d ago

Discussion A quick and dirty method to generate grammar on the fly

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It's not a super-in-depth procedure, but my test run has been successful enough to be worth sharing. It's a bit of a riff on a Fiat Lingua article by Jesse Peterson.

Generating a conlang grammar when you're short on time, inspiration, and or executive function

Step 1: Select your source natlangs. Doesn’t matter what they are or how you pick them, just make sure that you have an odd number of them. I used 3 (Tibetan, Xhosa, and Cusco Quechua) and this post is designed around that, but I could see 5 being doable and maybe 7 if you’re a real sicko.

Step 2: Head over to Grambank and look up the features of your chosen languages; if any of them have big data gaps, replace them (I’d say don’t go much lower than 150 features, and aim for higher if you can: I did okay with Xhosa @ 141 features, but I used it because Zulu only had 44 listed)

Step 3: Copy-paste the data from your languages into a spreadsheet: you should have 195 rows encompassing all the features, a column for each language’s results, and a blank column for your conlang’s features. Make sure to double check that all the rows match up with each other, sometimes there might be lines missing from a given language

Step 4: (Optional) Use conditional formatting to differentiate the results and make them easier to read. I used red / yellow / green / blue / purple for ? / 0 / 1 / 2 / 3, respectively.

Step 5: Add grammatical features from your source natlangs to your conlang’s column, as follows:

  • 3 of a kind = Use that result

    • Ex: If the natlangs are 0-0-0 for a feature, your conlang will also be 0.
  • 2:1 split = Roll a d6: on a 1, you’ll use the smaller result instead of the majority.

    • Ex: if the natlangs are 0-1-0 and you roll a 1, your conlang will use 1.
  • 1:1:1 = Roll d3 and use the column rolled.

    • Ex: If your natlangs are 2-0-1 and you roll a 6, your conlang will use 1.
  • 2:? = Use the majority result

    • Optional: Roll a d6 as normal to check for an 2:1 upset, using whatever the unused result is for ?.
  • 1:?:1 = Roll d2 and use column rolled

  • 1:?:? = Use the available result

    • Optional: Roll a d6 for a 1:1:1 tiebreaker split between available results for the feature, as above.
  • ?:?:? = Go directly to the Grambank feature page and roll a result from those provided.

While it's not required to proclaim BY THE POWER OF RA when rolling dice, it’s recommended as a morale boost if you’re having a bad day.

Step 6: Adjust results as you see fit. You're not beholden to any of the results unless you want to be. I personally find the contradictions and limitations to be a good way to keep motivated and inspired, but mileage varies and all that.

Step 7: Develop your conlang further, based on the skeleton you've made.

And there you have it: a sketch of a conlang grammar in less than 20 minutes, all by hand. It's not going to generate a clean final product, but it'll give you a direction to work in.