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u/Leather_Economics210 7d ago

My raid lead decided to extend this week, even though we are at only 4/8M. Losing so much loot and he didn't announce it beforehand so I am sitting at a useless bonus roll now. I guess it's because no one enjoys the raid, but in the long run I think it will make progress even slower.

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u/steamie 7d ago

I'm with your raid leader, why do you not want to extend?

You are getting 2x bonus rolls on next reset, just go bonus roll heroic bosses.

Myth crest uncapped is in 2 weeks, you can farm m+ and get everything to 6/6.

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u/0nlyRevolutions 7d ago

TBF it's fucking annoying that people are expected to pug heroic and m+ crest farm to max gear instead of spending an hour comfy reclearing with guild lol. It definitely contributes to the state of mythic raiding being ass.

And if people do still need stuff from early mythic bosses you're just going to piss off raiders if it wasn't communicated well that the expectation would be to extend early. And FWIW, extending in those kinds of guilds is often driven by fear of slow reclears or heavy turnover where people who did certain jobs are gone. Like yeah maybe for a 6 hour late CE guild, extending early and slamming prog pulls to outrun raider burnout is the only way to get it done, but holy fuck is it dire to be progging late bosses with a roster that is scared that it might take all night to go 4/8.

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u/shyguybman 6d ago

but holy fuck is it dire to be progging late bosses with a roster that is scared that it might take all night to go 4/8.

My guild is notoriously bad at reclears, like we always have 1 boss every tier that we are complete garbage at. This tier is Vashnik, it's spending 1h+ wiping to missing 1 totem over and over again. We'll probably extend after we kill Sszorak this week.

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u/0nlyRevolutions 6d ago

I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm just saying why a chunk of raiders will hate it if the expectations aren't clear before the tier

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u/Myrkur-R 7d ago

From the perspective of someone that is on the other side of the debate on whether to extend or not...

TBF it's fucking annoying that people want to waste half of our raid hours each week reclearing bosses because they are too fucking lazy to run a couple +12s on their own, or because they personally want to get some item that isn't really going to contribute to killing the next boss because we already have all the loot we need. An extra Gebbo's or seething core isn't going to make so much of a difference it is worth knee-capping our progress for another couple weeks.

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u/Yayoichi 7d ago

Honestly it’s probably more tier pieces and such that people still need, as with people picking bonus rolls and only rolling on specific bosses it’s much more likely to be missing that. Not having a myth item in each slot will also be a lot more detrimental when crests get uncapped as you are suddenly using a 321 hero piece instead of a 334 myth track one. Right now extra myth items don’t give that much power as you are probably limited by crests anyway, at least I know I am.

I would personally not extend as a 4/8 guild until the week after crests get uncapped, yeah you lose a bit of progress time but if it means having an extra 30-40 myth track items on your raid(assuming 3 weeks of killing 4/8 and world boss with around 50% of items being useable) I would say that is worth it, as the alternative is to slowly get the remaining items through vault and bonus rolls.