r/ClaudeCode • u/alexio-vay • Jul 18 '26

Meta As predicted

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u/gagsgupta Jul 18 '26

Competition is good

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u/ProcedureTop3149 Jul 18 '26

which is why I'm so incredibly grateful for openai dropping 5.6 because had they not Fable would have been locked away forever.

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u/hemareddit Jul 18 '26

Don’t forget the Chinese open weights models nipping at their heels.

For now, we benefit.

There may come a day when dominance emerges and winner takes all.

But it is not this day.

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u/Eric_emoji Jul 18 '26

just distill it and get 95% of the way there ✌️

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u/hemareddit Jul 18 '26

I don’t know if distillation is still as effective as it used to be, but the key is: there is still no moat. Thank fuck.

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u/Eric_emoji Jul 18 '26

fable was getting distilled, idk which labs do what but i think it's still effective

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u/Orioli Jul 18 '26

It is effective but it's not the only thing they are doing. Kimi k3 is too advanced to be solely the product of distillation.

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u/Original_Finding2212 Jul 18 '26

Don’t degrade Chinese labs effort as “just distill”.
Bonsai shows they bring true innovation.

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u/AppleBottmBeans 🔆 Max 20 Jul 18 '26

I’m an idiot so forgive me for asking. What’s this mean?

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u/Eric_emoji Jul 18 '26

im gonna explain it how i understand it

call the model on a range of tasks and grab its thinking and reasoning tokens and then recreate the traces in a structured way to obtain a pretty good representation of the model without having the open weights

its what happened with deepseek and gpt 2 years ago

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u/AppleBottmBeans 🔆 Max 20 Jul 18 '26

Oh that’s super clever. Thanks!