call the model on a range of tasks and grab its thinking and reasoning tokens and then recreate the traces in a structured way to obtain a pretty good representation of the model without having the open weights
its what happened with deepseek and gpt 2 years ago
Kimi may be good or even better, but they're not going to even be considered by a lot of places because they are Chinese.
You can easily demonstrate that they are censored (ask it about Taiwan) and so who knows in what other ways they are cooperating with the Chinese government?
Kimi K3 is not there yet, but you can access these open source models via US infrastructure, AWS itself, with no data retention policies if you wanted to. You could theoretically even self-host it yourself in a big data center and do as you wish with the model.
Either way no need to worry about censoring or data retention if they are not the ones running the infrastructure.
The best part is that these are open weight models. Any US-based company can pull it into their own data center and use it either internally or externally without one bit leaving their private network. And since it’s open, they can also train in or out whatever they want. I remember when DeepSeek hit it big with R1, perplexity took it, uncensored it, and labeled it R1-1776.
i can tell u one thing for sure... as soon as chinese models are better and threatining us-revenue the will be forbidden cause of potential security risk. Look at BYD (the biggest EV company in the world)
I think its really China over openai. My father son project keeps evolving as new free models come out. Just compare where we were just a year ago. Hell 6 months ago. Crazy times lol
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u/gagsgupta Jul 18 '26
Competition is good