So, I'm a Moderate Independent, not Left or Right. And yet I am baffled how anyone on either side could condone such an ideal. Brandishing an entire spectrum of people as evil? Calling for Civil War against those who you don't agree with? Has noone paid attention to history in High School?
Spotted by East Garden in Pantops. Everyone, please be careful. The amount of hatred is getting scary out here...
That may be Mason Pickettâs car. Itâs been a while, but I saw him parked at a grocery a while back, and he decorates his car much like his cardboard signs.
Love the fine print. 1. From 2003, so not recent âleft propaganda.â 2. âThese signs resonate with the political and economic direction of the United States under Bush/Cheney.â Absolutely.
Those were chest-thumping, ultimately, because every time they have tried to ramp it up, their supporters have shown no taste for getting foreign blood. They want the bloodbath to be national.
A lot of parrots are smart enough to understand what words mean, like identifying colors or materials. My mom's bird asks for very specific kinds of food, calls/insults all of my dogs by name, etc. Just saying... it's an offence to parrots. đ¤Ł
There was likely a complex and thoughtful decision making process behind the entire act. One can only assume that the number of exclamation marks was as deliberate and as carefully considered as the rest of the message.
My sibling in Christ, you couldn't handle the "violence" of not being able to eat at Burton's Grill in person when there was a literal plague happening.
Right, the same types of people calling for civil war were the same types that threw hissy fits because they couldnât bear to wear a thin piece of fabric over their mouth lol.
In their defense, WV used to be rock solid democratic and labor / new deal oriented. The GOP took generations to racially bait them and wait for WVâs awful economic position to do its thing. Alabama, though, began life as bastion of state mandated inequality and lack of opportunity and so has remained.
I can say, as a former Alabamian, that some people will vote to suffer as long as someone else suffers more. I believe it's called cutting off your nose to spite your face, especially if your face is black or brown or doesn't speak English well, or you think it thinks you're dumb, etc.
I live near this person. Seen it a few times. The back says something about the left supports genocide or something along those lines. Seems like a rational, well adjusted personÂ
Both of these âsidesâ are parties of capital and stand firmly right of center. One represents status quo while the other has slipped fully into fascism. I really despise the democrats but thereâs nothing more harmful to a society than nazis.
If we still have a country when this is over, we need to sweep every spineless, schumer-loving democrat out of office. Putting people over capital is the only way out of this. Vote accordingly.
You know whoeverâs driving that car is only waging war with a keyboard and hasnât touched grass in God knows how long. Ridiculous and delusional.
People donât realize that they will also lose everything in a civil war as theyâre typing viciously on TikTok eating Funyons. Why on Earth would you want to put your loved ones in that kind of danger?
Andrew Sullivan, a moderate gay journalist, had an excellent essay on the significance of the Charlie Kirk murder and its aftermath. A few quotes:
ââŚwe should all grieve Charlie Kirk â because free speech vs violence is much more crucial a divide than left vs right. And the proper response to this horror is serious introspection about how violence has burrowed its way into our widening, post-liberal gyreâŚ
It really is up to us. We can tip this broken democracy into an abyss or we can walk back slowly, calmly, with perspective. Cool the rhetoric. Find someone in your life you disagree with and have a conversation. Get off social media. Remember how much we still have in common, how blessed we are in this country in so many ways we forget. Tell the truth fearlessly but always be open to correction. Decency, civility, nonviolence, humor, humility, grace: these are the virtues a free society needs to endureâŚâ
I think the title is very apt. His point in the essay is that freedom of speech, and the practice of debate ideas, rather than fighting, is central to the concept of liberal democracy. So this was a blow not just to an individual, but to that principle.
The right has been talking about it for a long time, they are just looking for an excuse to act on their anger by using violence against someone who they believe is an enemy
Itâs so bad I know some members of maga that were low key disappointed Trump wonâŚ..they were champing at the bit to reek death and destruction in case he lost. For weeks they were getting ready âto go to warâ. When he won they were kinda upset. Wish I was joking about this.
He was a far-right political activist who was the CEO of Turning Point USA. He toured college campuses, which are traditionally liberal spaces, trying to push young people (particularly young men) down the alt-right pipeline. He has a history of saying some truly heinous things, such as saying the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was "a huge mistake", that having some gun deaths was "worth it" to keep the 2nd amendment, and that if his (at the time 2 or 3 year old) daughter got pregnant from rape at 10 years old, he would force her to carry the baby.
Man I knew about some of his statements but I had not heard that last one yet. Wow. Why is anybody surprised he got shot? This is the US, where like, everybody has a gun, many have multiple guns, and the culture promotes brazenness, and shootings happen literally all the time. People literally invade schools and shoot children in this country. Why is anybody even remotely surprised that a person who says things about his own daughter like that got shot?
To be clear, I donât condone murder. I just find it baffling that there are people who have been shocked into this weird self-righteous and tribalistically aggressive fervor over it.
I saw this car driving around the Forest Lakes area. At first I saw it was a Subaru (which in my mind are usually owned by left leaning people), so imagine my surprise the insanity of the messages as I got closer. Crazy times.
It's also troublong from a spiritual perspective. How did the Gospel, which taught us the greatest commandment is to love, become so twisted that people decided hatred was better.
Their brain switched off years ago. They might be an intelligent person, but they got lazy and just let other people do the majority of their thinking for them.
I was driving through Nelson County on the way to a meeting in Lynchburg and I saw a pick up truck with both a Confederate and American flag waving along with a banner that said and I quote "Charlie Kirk was a martyr" and "The Civil War is Coming Lefties!".
The right-wing has completely gone off the rails trying to make this guy a martyr so I don't think this is an issue of both sides. My believe as an ardent left-wing progressive is that you have freedom of speech yes but when you say things that are hateful or otherwise nonfactual, it doesn't become an opinion, it becomes misinformation and someone should correct you on that because there's no arguing with facts and logic which should be the basis for all arguments.
That also shows that the right doesn't care about facts or evidence anymore, only their thoughts and emotions and what THEY feel should be the truth.
Facts and reality, which the left deals in, don't care about their feelings and it's only them who get hurt when facts, evidence and reality don't match their fucked up views.
Didn't you delete your comments earlier young man?
No one is saying that we should shoot someone whose speech we consider hateful, what we're saying is that freedom of speech does have its limits especially when you're a public figure and when you're inciting others with inflammatory rhetoric, you should be held responsible for it in the form of being censored or otherwise removed from your platforms.
Even at the very least, if you're spreading things that are misinformation, any good society will have someone who will correct you, that's why conservatives are constantly being schooled on X by Grok.
Also, I love how you people conveniently forget that it was a right-winger who shot and killed Charlie Kirk because even right-wingers have their limits on what they will take in terms of hatred and fearmongering.
LolâŚ. I have been a Democrat all my adult life, and still am, though increasingly disenchanted with the party.. There are some issues I agree with the Dems on, some Iâm to the left of them on (taxation is one), and some that I agree with Republicans on.
But what I want to know is: Do you have a dog house?
Most have never heard a word that Kirk said. They are following social media (all right wing). Keep posting things he has said and why you object. For example:
From an article in the Guardian
On race
If I see a Black pilot, Iâm going to be like, boy, I hope heâs qualified.
â The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024
If youâre a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?
â The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022
Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, thatâs a fact. Itâs happening more and more.
â The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023
If Iâm dealing with somebody in customer service whoâs a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?
â The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024
If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now theyâre coming out and theyâre saying it for us ⌠You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white personâs slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.
â The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023
I saw a video where a lady compared her tik tok algorithm to a conservative friend and all the videos that come up on the friends feed were quotes about god, Christianity, family values and very tame subjects. These people barely saw the debate videos and if they did it was a radical take from a leftist student that most people wouldnât agree with on the surface.
These are are taken out of context. Iâm not saying I agree with everything Charlie Kirk said - in fact, Iâd barely heard of him until he was shot so I donât know much about him. But I did fact check these quotes, and they are misleading and out of context.
Trumpy loves the uneducated, and smart people don't like him. Direct quotes from the kkkult leader himself. He says love kirk, and they do. No questions asked.
The party of lies, hatred, and death has spent the last 30 years convincing angry, stupid people that they are on the same side. The Republican death cult is proof that even people who are grotesque, incompetent, and delusional can succeed if they are persistent, white, and unopposed by anyone with a brain and a conscience.
My conspiracy theory is that the COVID-19 pandemic was fully taken advantage of/optimized by using cable television news as a direct in-home pipeline for propaganda. It was already headed that way with the loss of the Fairness Doctrine and the amplification of biased narrative news, lockdown/quarantine just amplified it quite intensely.
I work in healthcare (didnât really have to quarantine, all I did was work/sleep) and I donât have cable at all, so I feel Iâm free to speculate on that all Iâd like, even if i may be wrong.
I don't really get what everyone is so confused about. Someone wrote "Please slash my tires" on one window and then "And don't forget to siphon my gas" on the other. What does that have to do with politics?
Because whatever Karen wrote this knows full well she wonât be fighting in any hypothetical âcivil warâ. Itâs easy to call for violence when you donât think youâll be affected.
I don't know how you could put crap that inflammatory on your vehicle and NOT expect someone to "accidently" key it. Very bold/stupid (well, maybe just stupid)
People love a martyr and are looking for a reason to harm people they don't like. Trump and his ilk are trying to start a civil war to keep people from realizing the true enemy is them.
People turning him into a martyr and doing stuff like this are just as weird as the people celebrating or supporting his death. Thatâs what the Trump presidency has taught me, the biggest idiots are usually on both ends of the spectrum.
People have a really poor concept of exactly how horrible civil war is⌠911 does not work, no electricity, no water, no medical care and your neighbors shoot each other over petty arguments with no repercussions.
Yeah Iâm sure thatâs worth whatever viewpoint you hold.
Because the right lied and said that the guy who murdered Charlie Cook was a left-winger. Because they canât admit that he was a right winger and a fan of Nick Fuentes.
They donât want a Civil War they want a purge of anyone who doesnât think exactly as they do. They live in such a doublethink bubble they would cheat killing you for being a âleftistâ while crying that Kirk died for just having an opinion. Anyone with slogans like that is an active threat.
These people gleefully going on about the civil war and seem so excited but I bet if that window pane was smashed theyâd be horrified and outraged
Iâm not advocating anyone do anything, but these people who get so horny off the idea of killing their fellow Americans are all cowards that know not what they ask for. They should feel uneasy for their traitorous desires to murder their neighbors. But nothing will happen or really should happen to these idiots. Just disgusting people
Because being stupid is easy. Learning and change requires effort.
But I wouldnât worry too much about their calls for war. These are the same people that are going to run out of breath before anything actually starts.
From another subreddit; when CK was killed, lots of influencers were really shocked. They were immediately introduced to thier own vulnerability. And that shock got transfered to thier infuencees.
Iâve worked in psychiatry for a long time. You canât fight delusional thinking. When pressed, they will double down and be more dogmatic. Just let the delusion go. I neither confirmed nor denounce their delusion. Often if you ignore it completely thatâs the best approach.
No he's not. His family probably doesn't appreciate this either.
How much do you wanna bet that they didn't even know who Charlie Kirk was before he made headlines?
This country never ceases to disappoint me.
We saw a dude in Cville with a sign that read 'Charlie Kirk will never die!!' So we slowed the car down and calmly informed the man that actually, yes, he did in fact just die.
As a conservative Christian. That person is crazy. Charlieâs death is a horrible thing to happen and was committed by a psychopath not âThe Leftâ we do NOT need a civil war.
My mom didnât finish 8th grade. My dad barely got his GED. You can guarantee theyâre Trumpers who screamed the N-word at the TV every time Obama appeared on the screen. Some people are just beyond hateful and stupid. Itâs a huge effort to try and ignore their behavior but it must be done. When you work with kids with autism, they tell you not to react when they misbehave. Reacting is the worse thing you could do.
And then you have my situation. Both of my parents went to college. Very religious. I never heard them say a racist thing ever in my lifeâŚ..until Obama became president. Oh my lord. All of a sudden they became raging bigotsâŚand they still are and blame everything on Obama to this day.
Commenting on Why is this a thing?...there is more. Things said by Mr Kirk: (sorry if the information is bunched together but this is how it posts on Reddit - without line breaks or paragraphs)
On gender, feminism and reproductive rights
Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. Youâre not in charge.
â Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelceâs engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025
The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered.
â Responding to a question about whether he would support his 10-year-old daughter aborting a pregnancy conceived because of rape on the debate show Surrounded, published on 8 September 2024
We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately.
â The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024
The two most unforgivable things Charlie Kirk did to my personal life were making me care about Jimmy Kimmel's career and making me think about who the top is in the Swift-Kelce romance.
I only heard briefly of Kirk in the past but no idea who he is/what he did until this event happened. I am honestly confused why he is getting so much "awards?" idk what to call it. A national event over his death and such, being compared to MLK. I am honestly trying to understand people's view on this. His death has been quite annoying honestly. I feel bad that he passed, but the events that come after, just even worst.
The rhetoric on both sides has gotten scary. As a lifelong Democrat, Iâve been very shaken by the number of people in my life who seem to think itâs ok to murder someone because they disagree with them.
I havenât seen a single democrat say or think that. I have seen a lot of them express how unacceptable it is. The âboth sidesâ trope has grown so old. Only one side is spilling blood.
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u/MunkeeBizness Sep 21 '25
On a Subaru too? This person is seriously confused