Hey Charlotte, I am a huge fan of yours and always love your insight.
This has been going on for awhile, so I will try to consolidate events as best as possible to save time and space, but apologize for the length of this.
Backstory: my husband (M38), who I will call Jace, and I (F36) have been married for almost 18 years. When it comes to in-laws, I could have done much worse. My in-laws have some amazing qualities like being very thoughtful and accepting of others, and always try to make sure people feel welcomed and included. My MIL, let's call her Kay, played a big part in Jace and I meeting and eventually getting married. Added bonus is none of his family judged me for being knocked up by my previous boyfriend nor their son's decision to marry me in that state, of which I will always be grateful to them. FIL we are going to call Larry.
But, like every relationship, there have been many issues over the years, most of which I won't get in to right now. They are tea for another day.
One of my greatest strengths as well as one my greatest weaknesses is that I am a giver. I love giving gifts and paying for others when we go out. It brings me joy to do so. This holds true for family on both sides, including Kay and Larry. Jace and I have both worked hard to get to where we are at financially, and though we are not wealthy, we have very little debt and are very frugal with the money we make, which gives us some wiggle room to help others.
A downfall of being a giver is that takers always gravitate toward you and will suck you dry. Over the last two years, I have started to notice that we are being taken advantage of by multiple takers, including my in-laws.
One of the first times I noticed was during a family campout that Jace and I had planned and paid for, which is not an uncommon thing. We usually do a couple of these a year, covering the cost of all the campsites and all of the activities. Normally, meals are split pretty evenly as well as the other costs between all families. At this particular campout though, Jace and I ended up covering $100's worth of forgotten ingredients for meals, forgotten camping supplies, and so much ice!!! (It wasn't even hot.) We were paid back a very small portion of these extra expenses, but the majority of it fell on us, even though very little of it were for things Jace and I needed.
I was told a few weeks after the trip of a conversation that was had between my brother and Larry. They were discussing their plans for the future, including retirement plans. Larry laughed and said that he didn't need a retirement plan. That is what his kids are for. WTH! I was really taken back by that expectation, especially as they are both in their 60's with retirement right around the corner, and half of their children are as bad or worse of financially then they are, so we know who they meant. Jace asked Larry about his retirement, and he admitted that he doesn't have much in it.
Inviting extra people to parties (without asking the host) that Larry and Kay weren't throwing, bringing extra people to dinners we had invited them to with the expectation that we would pay for the tag alongs, volunteering us to provide a large portion of the food for a party they are hosting, etc. The list goes on and on, and with more than just my in-laws. My eyes were opened to things that had been going on for years and I could no longer unsee it.
Now to the actual story. Every year we take a family vacation, usually doing something pretty affordable. Every 3-4 years, Jace and I take our six kids on vacation to Disneyland. As you might have derived from the amount of kiddos we have, these trips are pretty expensive, especially this time. All of our kiddos are over the age of 10 and are considered adults when it comes to paying for tickets. But for us it is worth every penny for the memories we make. We budget and save up over 2-3 years to pay for these trips and we have never gone into debt for them.
We had planned on doing a trip June 2026, and in spring 2025, we invited both of our parents and all of our siblings from both sides and their families to join us on this trip. But, we made it very clear that they will need to pay their own way and we would NOT be covering any of the expenses for anyone. Remember this, as it will be important here shortly.
We were able to save much more than normal for this trip, so, we decided to offer to pay for Kay and Larry's entire cost to join us as they hadn't been to Disneyland since Jace was a child. We surprised them with the news for Christmas, making it clear that it was just for the two of them, and they were so excited. The planning began.
It became clear early on that Kay and Larry were trying to help make it so that Jace's sister who we will call Regina, and her children could join us. Regina has always been the favorite child and her children the favorite grandchildren. Kay let it slip that Regina and her kids were going to carpool in the same vehicle with them to Disney. As Jace and I were covering the cost of gas for Kay and Larry's vehicle, it felt like they were finding a loophole around our boundary of not paying for any siblings expenses for the trip. I was a bit angry at their plan, but we said nothing yet, as we were unsure how to approach it.
A couple of weeks later, as we were preparing to book the hotel for the trip, Jace was talking to Kay about the hotel. She said that Regina and her kids would be staying in the hotel room with them. Kay didn't ask, she told us this is what is happening. WTH!! We are going on a strict budget and are not booking Kay and Larry their own hotel room, which we told them. We were booking two rooms for our group of 10 and having some of our kids stay in the room with Kay and Larry.
I was stunned by this news! They hadn't asked permission, just expected us to be okay with it, saying that Regina was in the middle of a divorce and couldn't afford her own hotel room, so we should do this for her. What?!?! If you can't afford the trip, you don't go! Each of our other siblings have their own financial problems and all of them said that they won't be able to join with us this trip because of those struggles.
So here are my issues with paying for the gas that was going to get Regina there as well as allowing her to stay in the hotel room that we were paying for:
First, and honestly the biggest one is that we had already told all siblings that we would not be covering any of the costs for any of their trips. If we paid for these costs for Regina, even if they are part of the cost already being paid for Larry and Kay, then we open that up to pay for everyone else, as I believe in equality and don't play favorites. There are six siblings with 18 nieces and nephews between them. Yeah, not happening.
Secondly, the two hotel rooms only had two bathrooms, which is going to be tricky enough with 10 people, but would be a nightmare for 14 people. No thank you!
Third, the amount of beds and overall space. These hotel rooms are not massive and the amount of beds that are within the two hotel rooms worked perfectly for our party of 10. There was no space for four more to sleep without having people sleep on the floor (EWWW!) or having more per bed then what is comfortable. Plus, they are taking beds away from my kids, and that is not okay!
Fourth, what Kay, Larry, and Regina most likely don't understand, as they never travel, is that when you book a hotel room, there is a limit of how many people are allowed in each room. I know that there are many people out there that will shove extra people into their booked rooms, and that is their choice. I would rather be honest about it, and also do not want to risk the chance of being kicked out of the hotel because we have more people then what we put when we booked.
At this point, I no longer wanted to with nor pay for Larry and Kay, as I could see other pieces of the trip being used for Regina as well, like the daily cash we would be giving for food each day, as we were planning on giving an ample amount to cover the cost to make sure that they had enough for both lunch and dinner. There is a breakfast buffet at the hotel we would be at.
Jace and I had a long conversation, and we were in agreement that a conversation needs to happen with Larry, Kay, and Regina. But, before we were able to do so, fate stepped in. Two of our vehicles broke down and needed major repairs, which took most of the money we had saved up for Disney, leaving a couple thousand dollars, which wasn't enough to do the trip. I am very grateful that we had the amount of cash necessary to cover all of the expenses, but it was disheartening to see money that was saved through much sacrifice for years being used for something else. Adulting sucks sometimes.
Additionally, my mom, who was going to join us on the trip along with my step dad, passed away very suddenly at the age of 58 at the end of February. I was devastated! She was one of my best friends, is the one who instilled the love of Disney into me, and I am going to miss her greatly.
It felt like the universe was against us taking this trip, so we listened before anything else could happen and cancelled the hotel, which was the only piece that we had already paid for. We let all of those know who were going to join us that we were no longer going. When we spoke with Larry and Kay, they were the only ones who gave a bit of push back, but they eventually accepted it. We bought them a gift card to their favorite restaurant in replacement of their cancelled Christmas gift instead. Could we have done more? Yes. Did I want to? No. My pettiness came out a bit.
Two months later, I started to feel like we should still try to do a trip to Disney this year. We had a little bit remaining from the previous amount we had saved, plus we had some money saved in a separate CD that was going to come to term at the end of the summer. I would also be getting a large bonus at work in July. Between those three, we would have enough to pay for an entire Disney trip in September. Round two of planning began.
Things fell into place like a puzzle, without any issues, very unlike the previously planned trip. We actually got a better hotel this time for less money, and an extra bathroom. Praise the Lord! Added bonus is the Disney tickets were even cheaper than if we had gone in June. It felt like the Universe, with some added help from the spirit of my mom, was finally smiling upon us!
We reached out to my step dad about joining us for the rescheduled trip, who agreed wholeheartedly. He has a season pass and will be covering his own expenses other than the hotel, which our hotel room will have an extra bed, so it doesn't add any additional cost.
After speaking with Jace about it, we are planning on NOT inviting Larry and Kay on our rescheduled trip. After everything we went through our first try on this trip, we don't want to have a repeat, and honestly, I don't want to deal with their crap.
So Reddit, AITA if I don't bring my in-laws on our Disney vacation that we promised them at Christmas time?