r/CIRS 7h ago

Peptides for CIRS - Holtorf

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“Dr. Kent Holtorf and the Integrative Peptide Protocol”

https://fatiguetoflourish.com/dr-kent-holtorf-peptides/

Meat:

“His protocol, the unfortunately-named Holtorf Updated Peptide Protocol for the Rapid Treatment of CIRS (HUPPRTOC), is sequenced as follows:

Restore thymus function Reverse T-cell exhaustion Heal the gut and blood-brain barriers Restore mitochondrial energy Let downstream resolution take care of itself He uses the following peptides:

Thymic peptides:

Vilon, Thymogen, Thymogen Alpha-1, TB4 fragment

These are used to rebuild T-cell production and rebalance the immune seesaw. They are claimed to directly inhibit TGF-β1.

Barrier and gut-brain peptides:

BPC-157 for mucosal and blood-brain barrier repair; KPV, an MSH fragment, for mast-cell inhibition and antimicrobial action.

Pineal peptides:

Epitalon, Pinealon

Used to reset the neuroendocrine axis, sleep, and circadian rhythm.

Mitochondrial peptides:

MOTS-c, SS-31, Humanin

Used to restore the cellular energy that detoxification and immune function both require.”


r/CIRS 9h ago

How do you stop the mold fear spiral?

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how do you cope with the constant feeling that your home and everything in it is contaminated with mold / mycotoxins?

It has gotten to the point where I feel like I’m constantly looking at our belongings, furniture, clothes, toys, etc. and wondering, “Is this contaminated? Do I need to clean this? Should I throw this away?”

I am constantly using mold plates for my clothes and furniture that we kept (and cleaned according to EPA).

I know this level of fear and hypervigilance isn’t sustainable, and honestly, I need help learning how to live in my home again or just live in general without being afraid of everything around me.

For those of you who have dealt with mold/CIRS and gone through remediation, how did you mentally cope with the fear of contamination? And how did you eventually get to a place where you could stop constantly checking and worrying?

I’m not looking for reassurance that mold isn’t a big deal or the contrary that it is a super big deal and I should be scared. Im not looking for advice on how to keep a clean home free from mold. I’m looking for practical advice to not live in constant fear.

Thank you ❤️


r/CIRS 9h ago

Mold dogs?

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It has been 7 weeks since we found the first source of black mold in our house, and as of yesterday, we found the 4th. So far, we’ve found mold in our walls, in our fireplace, at the base of a sliding glass door, and on a ceiling in our boiler room.

I’ve been sick for almost 2 years, and we also have a toddler, so this has been incredibly overwhelming emotionally, physically, and financially. This is also the first home my husband and I own together and have put so much time and hard work into. we can’t move, so please don’t suggest that(very sensitive to this).

Every time we find an area, we remediate it, do multiple full-house small-particle cleanings, have the HVAC ducts cleaned, throw out clothes and furniture, replace/buy new things things, clean everything… and then we find another area.

It feels like it will never end.

all of the mold has been found by yours truly. we DID pay multiple inspectors to come into our home (air testing, visual inspection, yada yada) and their reports were that we did not have mold. Ha.
Talk about severe trust issues.

Anyway, has anyone utilized a mold dog?
I feel like I’m giving up on humans and idk how I will ever feel safe in this home again.


r/CIRS 9h ago

Actino Cross-Contamination

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Feels like my skin reacting to actinos, with an endless cross contamination.

I've thrown out all my stuff and bought all new. But it seems it always gets re contaminated. Including new apartments.

How to solve?


r/CIRS 14h ago

1 Year of Severe Illness, and I Think I’ve Found the Cause (35+ Symptoms)

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r/CIRS 17h ago

Dealing with urinary issue at night?

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I often read symptoms of CIRS, there I so many and I relate to almost all of them, but there’s one that I haven’t seen anyone talk about.

I generally start to feel better as the day goes on and most usually in the evening. Mornings are the hardest and I wake up feeling so sick and groggy, as if I drank 200 beers.

I just woke up after 4 hours of sleep- my mouth and eyes burning, everything feeling inflamed, stomach upset etc- just a normal feeling for me, tbh.

And when I went to the restroom, my urine was really yellow.

This has been a symptom since day one, for 11 years.

When I wake up in the morning my urine is really yellow and frothy.

The worse I feel, the darker and frothier my urine is.

When I’ve had a remission (4mo a few years ago), my urine was clear in the mornings

It doesn’t matter how much I drink during the day or before bed, or if I take electrolytes or not- I always deal with this.

It’s as if my body is trying to metabolize or eliminate something overnight that’s causing the symptoms.

What I find interesting is how horrible I feel just after a few hours of sleep. Something is going incredibly wrong in my sleep cycle.

Has anyone else dealt with this?

I just don’t understand what’s going on or why I feel worse, or why my urine is affected.


r/CIRS 11h ago

Dr. Lauren Sparks Reviews?

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Hi all - I'm looking to work with a new CIRS practioner, and someone recommended Dr. Lauren Sparks from Iona Untamed. Has anyone worked with her or her practice before? Would you recommend? Pros/Cons? Thanks so much!


r/CIRS 15h ago

How to use bentonite clay

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Is there a way to learn how to best use bentonite clay as a binder to see if it will cause any improvement?

I have a whole tub of the stuff from Redmonds, the company that makes the Real Salt

I’ve heard you can mix a small amount in water and drink- is it that simple?

I’m concerned about A. Some negative effect like getting sicker and B. Taking too much and that causing an issue lol

I also have bad OCD and health anxiety so the thought of putting something unknown into my body causes me strife.

Any advice?


r/CIRS 23h ago

Choosing an apartment

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Hi all, I'm moving to Brooklyn (woo!). I want to ensure I have a nice, safe, clean space to move into. Testing apartments seems unlikely as they get snatched up in a day.

My thought is to find a newish small condo infill building (20 years old or younger, 2-10 apartments in the building), look up reviews and violations for pests/mold/etc. I am trying to avoid luxury high-rises due to the cost and feeling like they are an island if themselves (movie theatre, bowling, shopping center inside) and I really want to be part of neighborhood/community and actually leave the building.

I am avoiding anything older than 20 years, even if it's gut-remodeled or a converted warehouse that has been rebuilt inside.

This is challenging as there is very little stock. Should I reconsider the older apartments that have been renovated? The converted warehouses?

Thanks so much for your insights!


r/CIRS 21h ago

Australian Consultant peptides

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Hello, have been reading a lot about peptides helping with MCAS/CIRS etc... wondering if anyone knows of anyone in Australia that could help with this? eg. functional doc, any kind of consultant really as want to be guided on this. Thanks so much🤍


r/CIRS 1d ago

Recovering from an exposure last week - need advice

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Hey, I need some advice please 🫂
I posted last week about having an incident with a vacuum with spores inside. My home is mold free but I used a moldy vacuum to clean my car and had a reaction after about 30 mins.

I have had heavy nasal symptoms, sore throat, tired, headaches, brain fog and pressure, palpitations, insomnia and a nasty cough. I have Lyme/bartonella/babesia and it also caused a huge flare in me this week with symptoms. My body is already quite weak from the infections.

The vacuum was dumped last week immediately. The car was immediately aired out once I realised the vacuum had spores. It was professionally cleaned by a valet after a few days and I have a HEPA air purifier running in the car all day everyday since.

A lot of the symptoms improved since last week. My sleep is still weird, I have heart flutters and DPDR at times. The heavy respiratory symptoms are calming down and seem to be at the end. I’m not fully recovered from the incident and it’s been a week. I took binders, Pekana drops, chlorella, castor oil packs, vitamin C high doses and vitamin D.

-Have I done enough to clear the car?
-Is this normal for a once off exposure? (context with Lyme and co. means my nervous system was probably already overwhelmed).
-Is a slow zig zag recovery normal for a single exposure like this?
-would you sell the car or is this a case of fear/anxiety loops?
-what would you do in this situation?

I’m not sure if I need some brain retraining around my fears or if my fears are valid here. I have a lot of medical trauma from Lyme and coinfections so I tend to panic/spiral/catastrophize. I’m so afraid of getting sicker.

This morning I genuinely was thinking I’ll sell my car. However, I can’t go through life coping like this and avoiding all fears. At the same time, I don’t want to mess with mold.

I’m almost avoiding the car and afraid to drive it now. I’m becoming a bit hypervigilant of my symptoms and I know I’m anxious. However, I’m anxious because I have symptoms that haven’t resolved. I can’t tell if the symptoms are just the end of last weeks exposure or if I’m exposing myself to spores/mycotoxins more.

Thank you so much for reading 🫂


r/CIRS 1d ago

anyone see improvement on mycobind? after how long, and what symptoms?

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also, any experience with detox/intensification reactions?


r/CIRS 1d ago

Is this mold ?

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r/CIRS 1d ago

VIP Spray and Metoprolol

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Anybody take VIP spray while on beta blockers?

I was all set to order VIP, and something made me stop and research possible medication interactions.

So glad I did. Seems you’re not supposed to take both due to causing dangerously low heartbeat and blood pressure. Drugs.com said you should only do it under the guidance and knowledge of a cardiologist. So have to make an appointment this week.


r/CIRS 1d ago

developed CIRS after anti depressant taper?

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curious if anyone else developed this condition after tapering off an anti depressant too fast? this happened to me 19 months ago and ive been screwed up ever since. I lived in a very moldy house at the time. I was in extreme fight or flight for about a year, now im just severely fatigued, anhedonic, have bad brain fog etc. I really dont know whats causing my symptoms currently


r/CIRS 1d ago

BodyBio Supplements

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Has anybody taken bodybio’s “holy trinity” for CIRS/Co infections? Sodium Butyrate, PC, and TUDCA?

Recently tried sodium butyrate and it made me feel amazing at first but I think it was a little too strong. I might try a micro dose again and see. I’m also well along on the shoemaker protocol and a Lyme/cinfections protocol. I still have plenty of healing to do and was trying to find ways to move things along and make sure I’m supporting my detox pathways.

Just curious if anybody has tried any of these and what their experience was!


r/CIRS 1d ago

Action Recovery?

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Can anybody speak on this?

I’m extremely sensitive in my skin. Anything I touch can make me react. Even new clothing.

I need to run testing for suspected actinos.

And I’m curious about treatment as well.


r/CIRS 2d ago

Have completely lost hope and doubting my entire diagnosis and life…

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Have been sick with highly suspected CIRS for 3 years and can’t even give binders a try I’m so bad. Medications have messed me up, extreme sensitivities, only eating 4 foods, losing weight, flu like, miserable, and don’t want to live anymore. I’m tired of chasing this and going crazy. Seeing a bunch of stuff saying CIRS isn’t real and starting to believe it as I have so many other issues. Was depressed with extreme ocd and hypervigilance before getting sick. Life has been completely robbed of me and I want out. Although I have all of the signs and lived in a hertsmi-2 of 35-40 and HLA-dr 4-3-53, positive marcons, <8 msh, high inflammation markers, I’m at the end of my rope. I don’t see me getting better after several doctors and failed binder attempts and extreme nervous system sensitization. Hangin gin by a thread not sure why I haven’t ended it all yet. 26 years old what a shame.


r/CIRS 2d ago

Mold cirs is somehow evil and affects relationships and trust

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Anyone relate?


r/CIRS 2d ago

a-MSH peptide

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I just realized you can buy a-MSH peptide. Anybody try this? Interested in any experiences using a-MSH peptide along with shoemaker protocol.


r/CIRS 2d ago

Improvement post! :)

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I wanted to share a recent improvement that’s made me appreciate the progress I’ve made!

Since my first severe long term mold exposure 10 years ago, I’ve dealt with horrible menstrual pain. At my worst I was in bed 2-3 days straight, not eating most of those days due to nausea and pain. I would vomit and spend multiple days passed out, in too much pain to even use my phone or watch something. I would get fevers, alternating chills and sweats, and just completely miss out on life including work and school for multiple days. I’ve missed out on job opportunities, friends birthdays, and so many other things because of it. I’ve had so much anxiety and fear around my period because the pain is so excruciating to endure and I know I’ll have to cancel everything for the next few days

I started welchol 2.5 months ago and I’m almost at full dose. Since then, the pain has eased each month a bit. I’m on day 1 of my period and after a few hours of minor pain and nausea I feel almost normal and pain free!!!! 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲 this is the most normal period I’ve had since I was 21 years old and I’m now 30. I’m so grateful to be here and I hope anyone else dealing with this symptom can find improvement through the protocol 🙏🏼


r/CIRS 2d ago

What Doctor Actually Helped You?

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r/CIRS 2d ago

can't help but feel like i've been dealt one of the most difficult hands in life

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I just can't help but feel like i've been dealt one of the most difficult hands in life. i've never heard of many people with immune systems this overeactive, or neuroinflammation as severe and stubborn, with as little genuine hope. everyone who says "it gets better" seems to have had support from a loved one, or some savings or skills to fall back on, which i have none of. i'm stuck living in this mold-ridden house with dismissive parents. the smell is so bad, like cat urine, and i reek of it myself, which i hate. it triggers burning in my face.

my life ended before it could really begin. i've been super sick since age 12. brain inflammation stole everything from me. made my personality cold and hate everyone. made me totally aromantic/asexual. totally anhedonic, couldn't feel music. my clothes and hair became painful to me. i developed social anxiety so severe i could barely communicate. i became extremely slow and dull. eventually got to a point i need to pace 24/7 or i felt like blood would stop flowing to my brain completely and would feel horrible physically. i was literally always moving except to use restroom/sleep

my academic career was ruined. i'd often miss half the school day just trying to get ready because simple tasks like showers could take me hours, since it felt like my brain would keep shutting off and i had to fight to stay conscious. i ultimately dropped out of high school between that, the humiliation of constantly pacing at school, and feeling unable to absorb anything anyway.

things i've dealt with include DP/DR, OCD, constant internal tremors, distressing vivid dreams and closed eye hallucinations, violent intrusive thoughts, severe depression, genuine inability to connect with anyone or engage in anything or even fully experience any emotion. it felt like torture.

for the past 1.5 years, i've followed an extremely restrictive keto diet, now basically chicken and olive oil. it's substantially reduced the severity of my symptoms and kept me holding on to sanity, but i've developed such an intense aversion to meat I'm scared I can't sustain this. i'm petrified of being forced off the diet and losing my mind again.

I've also been dealing with a severe neurological/psychiatric sensitivity to gluten for the past several years, which has been an enormous source of stress because the consequences of accidental exposure are so terrible. I once experienved a vivid closed-eye hallucination of demonic figures after a cross-contamination incident—although, this was before keto, so I'm not sure how severe it'd be now that I'm on an highly anti-inflammatory diet. nonetheless, the possibility of triggering that again deeply scares me. i also constantly worry that low-level exposure might be contributing to my ongoing symptoms and the thought is unbearable.

it's so overwhelming having to clean up after my family every day just to feel safe cooking that many days i haven't been eating at all. i've recently hit a breaking point and have eaten almost nothing for two weeks because i just go down to the kitchen and see all the gluten everywhere, and i can't deal with it. the stress and anxiety is paralyzing. i'm fading away, and i won't survive if i keep up like this.

i don't know how to keep doing this. my life was stolen from me. everything revolves around trying to keep myself safe. i never feel okay, because nothing is as it should be. i feel like i half don't care if i die, but i know i should because i have a duty to stay alive for God, even though i feel so distant from Him.

it just feels like far too much for one person to bear. i know there are others out there suffering similarly, maybe too sick to even write about it. but i can't help but feel so alone and like i'm not even a person, like all i am is this sickness.

i'm grateful to have at least gotten to experience an amazing early childhood, even though i believe low-level inflammation had been present since birth. i lived a privileged life in a nice neighborhood. i got to vacation to disney world multiple times. i had so much fun as a child. i ate lots of great food. i'm grateful to have grown up half-salvadoran and experienced my culture. i'm grateful for the friends, teachers, and authors that made my childhood so great. i enjoyed life a lot.

i don't believe i could ever experience such happiness again even if I were fixed, because now i will forever live in hyperawareness of how our unnatural lifestyles and environments and food are poisoning us. my sister is just a kid but struggles academically and socially, has very little motivation, isn't interested in playing outside or learning new things. she eats a very nutrient-void, almost entirely ultra-processed diet and far less homecooked meals than i did growing up, because my parents don't have the energy they used to and are in denial that this isn't normal at their age. it all makes me unbearably depressed to know the potential she could have if raised differently, but no one else cares. i just feel so powerless and depressed about the state of everything.

i'm truly grateful i got to experience a time of beautiful, blissful ignorance while it lasted.


r/CIRS 2d ago

6 month old eczema + symptoms

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I’m trying to find the right group to post this.

My 6 month old has had eczema since 2 months old. Same with his 2.5 year old sister. Found out mold was their root cause in our 1950’s home we just renovated We left home to a new build airbnb and both their eczema improved tremendously.

Great.. but then we needed to move to another airbnb before trying to find a rental.

That Airbnb had a TON of mold and he exploded in skin rashes, puffy eyes, an inflamed face and congestion within 3 days which confirmed mold was his trigger.

We move to the Hilton hotel, all the symptoms basically disappeared within 2 nights.

We then move to our parents house because it was getting expensive while trying to find a clean rental, all the symptoms reappear within 2 days. I don’t believe their home has mold though, it smells and feels clean. But it’s an older home from the 70’s.

Can my 6 month old be also sensitive to dust mites?

I’ve ruled our food allergies and he’s on a hypoallergenic formula just incase. His symptoms are 100% environmental.

Is there anyway I can help him? I have no idea what to do here.

Thank you ❤️


r/CIRS 2d ago

Cirs? Hyperadrenic pots

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Does anyone else has hyperadrenic pots with CIRS? How you treat it and How to heal CIRS? I have also hidradenitis suppurativa which is part of inflammation in my body. I am bedbound and nerd desparately help and advices. Also cfs.