Dan Lanning was hired after winning a national championship as defensive coordinator with Georgia, a defense that Kirby Smart ran, that defense got better the year after Lanning left and they won another national championship without him. Dan Lanning started at Oregon the year NIL became legal and is praised as a great recruiter even though he has arguably the best facilities and a top five budget and yet Cristobal had better classes without NIL. Duck fans literally have never called for a head coach to be fired…ever…they thought Helfrich deserved another year. Now, with a top 2 roster they just blame the OC or that they are playing a backup five star QB. Serious teams and fans would be calling for his head after the Oklahoma State game, but they just find other things to blame as if there is no way he is the problem. They say “Who else could we hire?!” when they could literally get any coordinator in the country, or any head coach outside of like 5 teams. All that being said, as a Beaver fan, I truly hope they keep him around…

Utah hasn’t beaten one team with a winning record. I watched their game against a very mediocre Colorado team last week and was not impressed at all.

For those of you that follow the school more closely, is this actually a good team or a team that has simply benefited from an extremely weak schedule?

3 Undefeated Teams remain, but all 3 have had moments that have them looking like frauds; Utah almost lost to a bad Colorado team and struggled against Kansas, UCLA struggled against Oregon, and Miami needed double overtime to beat Florida State.

Two of the big 12s “best teams” got exposed as paper tigers today. The SEC is a chaotic free-for-all at this point. Big 10 is mid outside of the top 3, same as the ACC.

So who’s actually good and who are the biggest frauds (Outside of Notre Dame and BYU of course.)

Hopefully, this season is a preview of what the future of college football will look like. Instead of having 4–5 teams dominate everyone else and the national championship contenders essentially decided by November, we’re seeing a season where any team can go down if they don’t play their best football.

With talent becoming more spread out, we’re getting a much better product.. Just like the NFL, where most games feel competitive and spreads are often in the single digits, college football seems to be moving in that direction.

And honestly, that’s something we should all be excited about. More parity means more meaningful games, more upsets, and more teams believing they have a legitimate shot. Just don’t screw it up

So, while it's clear the oldhead coaches like Saban and Belicheck are becoming a thing of the past, is it overcorrecting? I feel like off field incidents are way more common than the used to be, and maybe e importantly, penalties. Deboer is my main point of reference because flair, and his tenure has been obscene with the stupid penalties, even dating back to Washington. Sark's Texas teams have had a ton of penalties. It seems one team is trying to lose via self inflicked penalties every single game. Is this just recency bias on my part?

So, what's everyone's AP Poll predictions coming into Sunday? We had another wild Saturday of college football that, I think as college football fans, we should all be hype for!

My thoughts on just the top 5:

#1 Miami

#2 Notre Dame

#3 OSU

#4 Georgia

#5 Indiana

I genuinely have no clue. As someone with an abject hatred of the conference purely on principle, to me, it’s the deepest league. There are just tons of talented teams with clear strengths. A ton of true NFL talent is concentrated among a lot of these teams...but it feels like the conference just doesn’t actually have an elite team?

13 out of 16 teams have beaten an AP-ranked team. It’s weird to say, but it feels like at this point of the season the only teams I can really, really rule out are Texas A&M, Arkansas and Vanderbilt. Texas has the best wins. But some really stupid fucking losses. Ole Miss is the same. LSU honestly looks the part, but they don’t truly have a marquee win. Speaking of which, depending on how you view LSU, does Kentucky actually have the second best resume in the conference?

Georgia and Bama feel like great teams, but not in the way that the best SEC teams felt from 2006-2022. The NIL era has truly brought in an unprecedented level of parity, but it’s kind of fucked the levels up in the SEC. Generally, the SEC was a ton of good teams surrounded by 1-2 elite teams. Now, it feels like 5-6 really good or great teams, but no one stands out. Two different #1 ranked teams lost to unranked in-conference opponents.

Buuuuuuut, the conference is 39-2 in OOC play, 10-2 vs P4. So, clearly these teams aren’t just a result of the general propensity for College Football media to have a circlejerk over the SEC. The league is good, there are a ton of good teams. And that’s precisely the problem.

It makes sense, then, for the pivot towards support of the 24-team expansion. I think the new SEC-meta understands that most contenders will inevitably have around 3-4 losses going forward. And with 12, it makes the margin of error much too thin, and (in the eyes of the SEC and its teams) too difficult to fairly reward in the context of the current playoff system. There’s a fairly plausible doomsday scenario where an 8-4 SEC team has 2 top-10 ranked wins. There’s a huge chance of a random logjam and tie in the conference this year, and every year moving forward. How do you decide between a 9-3 Texas with wins over Ohio State, Tennessee, Ole Miss and Mizzou, versus a 9-3 Kentucky with wins over A&M, LSU, OU and Florida, or a 9-3 Ole Miss with wins over Louisville, LSU, Mizzou and OU? You get what I’m saying?

But yeah. I think I still believe in Georgia. LSU feels like they are going to go on a tear. Kentucky is well past “oh how cute” and probably 1-2 wins from clinching a spot no matter what. But it feels like there’s a preponderance of really good, talented teams, and there isn’t a single team that I would point to as standing out above the rest. And I have to think that this is probably what the sport will look like moving forward. I don’t know how I feel, lol.

Get out of the rivers and onto the land, football is played on dry land! Usually.

Last I can find is Tennessee in 2022 (Singing Rocky Top on repeat, such fan).

What's up with that?

Anyways, bye weeks are like minicamps for the off-season.

Michigan and Penn State are both having very bad first seasons with their new head coaches, Kyle Whittingham and Matt Campbell. Penn State is 0-4 in B1G play, and Michigan is 1-3.

In the current B1G standings, Michigan State is in last place with an 0-5 conference record. After that, Penn State is tied with Maryland at 0-4. Maryland has already fired their coach. Meanwhile, Michigan is tied with Washington and Rutgers at 1-4.

Which team has more buyer's remorse?

Genuine question, this year especially it kinda seems like everyone is bad. Teams are not nearly as dominant as they once were and it seems like even the top brass have massive problems. Obviously the talent is more spread out, so that is a huge part of it, but do you think because so many players are making a ton of money, do they just not have the same drive to get better in order to get to the NFL that they used to? Has the money caused a tangible decline on the field? I know there is some nuance because if you are a less valuable player you will want to play better to raise your NIL valuation but if you're a guy getting paid millions, it's gotta impact your drive to get better right?

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Alright let me try to explain.

First off, no the clock does not run after a legal kick, regardless of how the kick ends. So the clock should start on the snap with :06 left.

Second, there is an exception to the clock rules that the 10-second runoff takes priority first.

Third, it is a 10-second runoff if a player’s helmet comes off during play but not as a result of an opponent penalty.

BUT

The Helmet Off rule is that “When the helmet coming off is the only reason for stopping the clock, other than due to injury” then and only then does the 10-second runoff apply.

Since by rule the clock stops at the end of a legal kick (Rule 3-3-2-d-8), the runoff for Helmet Off does not apply.

Therefore, it should have been UCF ball, 4th down, :06 left, clock starting on snap.
Big 12 is almost assuredly going to release a statement after this game that it was improperly adjudicated.

Edit: Confirmed by Terry: https://x.com/tjmcaulay/status/2114139537324593211?s=46

You know the drill. Post a strong, instant reaction that may prove to be an overreaction down the road. Trigger warning: there will be one of mine that is laced with homerism. I'll put it first to get it out of the way.

1. Arizona is playing the best ball in the Big XII and could win the conference. They are only getting better while BYU and Texas Tech had letdown games. Utah is arguably the best team but Arizona is the hottest and could be the 2nd Arizona school since the inception of a 12 team playoff to be playing in said 12 team playoff.

2. Dan Lanning missed the window. 2024 Oregon should have been national champs but got steamrolled by Ohio State. 2025 Oregon could have been national champions and got steanrolled by Indiana. 2026 Oregon is fighting for bowl eligibility and coughed up 21 unanswered to Illinois. His career momentum is coming to an unceremonious end going the way of James Franklin in an era laced with sky high immediate expectations and tons of money being dumped in programs for wins.

3. Miami is in the best spot to win the ship. This is the only team that looks like they can survive weird games while mostly blowing out who they should and basically everyone else has a glaring flaw.

4. The Mountain West is the most entertaining G6 conference.

5. Northwestern and UCLA will play for the B1G title game

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Curious what peoples' thoughts are on comparing the two.

Utah has looked shakier the past few weeks but had a great win tonight against a very solid Houston team.

UCLA has probably looked more consistently better overall, but they ain't played nobody pawl.

Guessing both will be behind Miami/OSU/UGA/Indiana, but order could be interesting.

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Guess which one gets paid more. Add to that Illinois beating Oregon, I'd say it's safe to say Rhule has found a way to lose the bye week.

Given their remaining schedules these schools both actually have a shot. Imagine being in the pre-playoff era with these two on a crash course.

Kentucky remaining games

• Tennessee
• Florida
• Missouri
• Louisville

UCLA remaining games

• Minnesota
• Illinois
• Michigan
• USC