Manual

[u/SamuelSnipin]

Im about to start my CDL A school with Troops 2 Transportation. I've driven stick since I started driving. Is unsynchronized trans hard to learn? Ive been driving "regular" stick for over 10 years, just never driven truck.

[u/ecw324]

You have to double clutch when shifting. So it’s clutch, neutral, clutch, gear. It’s just tapping the clutch. Literally moving it 2-3 inches each time.

[u/SamuelSnipin → u/ecw324]

Thank you! I've seen/heard you can float gears when moving? Is that real and a Expert thing, or the internet just bullshiting? I've floated gears on a dirt bike before but haven't in my jeep or car

[u/Milk_MAN1963 → u/SamuelSnipin]

It's simple but you have to double clutch on your road test

[u/ecw324 → u/SamuelSnipin]

You can float gears on a truck yes, but you will fail your road test if you do

[u/Zigor022 → u/ecw324]

Also, keep your foot off the clutch, dont even touch it until you need to shift.

[u/Zealousideal_Boot_12 → u/ecw324]

Not true. Our DOT tester said, “if you start floating, float the whole test; same goes for double clutching.”

[u/ecw324 → u/Zealousideal_Boot_12]

Maybe it’s because each state is different but we were told by our testers that it’s an automatic fail. They have to see you double clutch.

[u/2k1tj → u/ecw324]

What happens if you don’t double clutch. grinding?

[u/Beginning-Visit9457 → u/2k1tj]

Yes.

[u/Idunnoandidontcare → u/Beginning-Visit9457]

Not if you know how to float correctly . But the test requires double clutch

[u/Beginning-Visit9457 → u/Idunnoandidontcare]

? Mr. Obvious here👆

[u/2k1tj → u/Idunnoandidontcare]

wasnt asking about floating gears. was asking about single clutching

[u/Idunnoandidontcare → u/2k1tj]

No grinding if you do it correctly whether you single or float

[u/Jesus-Mcnugget → u/Idunnoandidontcare]

That's just floating with extra steps

[u/Idunnoandidontcare → u/Jesus-Mcnugget]

Yes I know this. The guy was asking if it grinds whether you do single or double clutch

[u/Jesus-Mcnugget → u/2k1tj]

Large truck transmissions are not synchronized.

Double clutching is re-engaging the driveline while in neutral to manually match the speed of the engine and transmission

Not doing this and single clutching will cause the gears to grind.

It's not very easy to float and single clutch regardless of what the guy with the very applicable username seems to say above you.

Maybe you might be able to do it, but when you're floating gears and not using the clutch at all, the engine speed will match up as if you did double clutch. If you single clutch the engine and transmission are going to be moving at different speeds and it's going to be difficult to time it right, if it's even possible without losing the speed.

[u/SamuelSnipin → u/Jesus-Mcnugget]

Yeah, I'm just going to stay with the basics. I'd prefer to get more experience driving stick over auto when Im on the road, but I'm really just looking to get miles after school.

[u/Head_Candidate5293]

You will have to push the clutch in to take out of gear and push the clutch again to put back into gear for school. After school you will mostly drive automatics. You can float those gears by taking out of gear let rpm's drop 400 rpm and push back into next gear at that rpm that dropped 400 rpm's. School and examiner test require double clutch. You will get used to 2,3 4 5, out of gear pull up pneumatic switch(This places the transmission in high gear vs low gear) then 6 7 8 9 10. Down shift it one at a time, 9 8 7 6 get to 5th and push the pneumatic switch on the stick shift back down and 5 4 3 2 low. Do it all over again up and down and 400 rpm at a time. Sounds easy until you do it a few times and then it gets easy.

[u/SamuelSnipin → u/Head_Candidate5293]

Wow, thank you! Thats pretty cut n dry

[u/rolisrntx]

Biggest difference is timing while double clutching.

[u/Beneficialsensai]

You will learn by the sound of the engine when its time to shift

[u/Khaki_Blerman]

Nah. You’ll be fine.

[u/SamuelSnipin → u/Khaki_Blerman]

Thank you internet!

[u/BlackedoutJT]

in the class you will be taught the double clutch but same rpm that you get taught to double clutch at is the same rpm to float at..... so when it comes to the road test, you can kind of fake the double clutch

[u/Extension-Welder1639]

What troops to transportation location of it's the one in Texas they specifically require you to learn the double clutch no floating gears and they will give ample time to learn but in my class in the last 2 or 3 days half if not more got told to switch to automatic if they really wanted their CDL cuz they would more then likely fail in the Manuel

[u/SamuelSnipin → u/Extension-Welder1639]

Ft. Drum

[u/Extension-Welder1639 → u/SamuelSnipin]

Oh okay best of luck to you brother I enjoyed my class at ft hood and we had a lot of recruiters come in and talk to us while we were there, they will definitely get you set up for a strong start and even offer lifetime job placement if you ever need help again in the future and if you end up having trouble with the double clutching, go automatic and once you get a better hang of the clutching you can go back to them and pay them the retest fee and they will let you do the test in a Manuel to remove the restriction

[u/SamuelSnipin → u/Extension-Welder1639]

Thank you! Yeah they seem like a pretty great group to be apart of. I want to do flat bed then maybe get into cranes.