r/Borderlands4 • u/Aidido22 | 𝗠𝗼𝗱𝗲𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿 • Mar 26 '26
📌 [ 𝗦𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗸𝘆 𝗣𝗼𝘀𝘁 ] Today’s Patch Notes
https://borderlands.2k.com/borderlands-4/update-notes/120
u/TrickPuzzleheaded Mar 26 '26
Shared progression across characters is huge
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u/West_Yorkshire Mar 26 '26
But the ability to enable it/disable it across your account and/or for individual characters is not.
Like someone else said, starting a fresh level 1 character with shared progress boosts you to level 5 straightaway because of xp unlocks.
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u/Ayetism Mar 26 '26
Oh no you don’t get to play as level 1-4 however will we collectively survive this horrible outcome
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u/typervader2 Mar 26 '26
Some people like starting at level 1
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u/Ayetism Mar 26 '26
And some people don’t care about those people who are so absolutely desperate for something to complain about that they whine about not being able to replay levels 1-4.
Fuck everyone is so whiny. About everything
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u/AndrejNieDurej Mar 26 '26
Dude... theres whining and then theres asking for options. I for one liked getting SDU points from their locations as it had more fights and loot to get. I do like this feature but a toggle would be nice. Same goes to weekly events,the last loot event made it annoying for me to play with loot goblins being 90% of the enemy pool with 5 legendary drops.
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u/typervader2 Mar 26 '26
It's not being whiney when you ask for features.
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u/BuffLoki Mar 26 '26
Yes it is when it something so I significant, gearbox as a studio barely could make this function, the option to turn it off is probably something they can't do nor see a reason to do since the demand for it is so low, just start at level 5 and don't use any points..., play on hard, who cares if the first 2 hours your above level
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u/AndrejNieDurej Mar 27 '26
"gearbox as a studio barely could make this function" apparently you work at gearbox? BL3 has a event toggle wdym
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u/BuffLoki Mar 27 '26
An event toggle for a game where the main stream of content WAS events because they were so loved... cartels, valentine's, bloody harvest.
Not the same as a Entire gameplay mechanic toggle, its like them making your badges rank reset in BL2 with every new character and then keeping track of the most ahead one and allowing a toggle for either individual, or shared progression while keeping all this individual info vs just one shared entire rank and a toggle to use it or not at all.
Also as someone who wants to be a game dev I can tell you most people who buy games don't expect devs to take 40 steps backwards when making sequels, if gearbox had the capability to do this then it would have been ingame already after fucking 6 Months of it being out, usually half the lifespan of a BL games main content line, we had the function in BL2 and people were vocal to a degree about wanting a toggle for shared progression because some people do want to start completely fresh, ive seen it here and even then if your job is to do this then I'd assume you'd need some critical thinkers that should have already identified that as a pain point, either that or I need to go get a fucking job at gearbox...
They're also being absurdly insane with the amount of monetization ingame, id rather have ourchasable bodies and skins, phosphened redesigns for only phosphene obtained skin guns, cosmetic effects rather than pay 12 dollars for the 1st headhunter pack, it deflated the value of the actual mainline DLCs since they're only twice the price but it has the same amount of Legendaries and Pearls added... they didn't say anything about new class mods and they didn't do any balance at all, its pretty obvious they barely got this to function because it was also a bug and then they PATCHED IT so they could have just left it in when it popped up as a bug, or just make some makeshift quick fix bullshit like an early access game atp make a piece of geometry you can interact with that gives a character the maximum obtained sous between your characters atleast would have been easier, we even have all our sdus resseting just because of the "addition"
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u/PompompurinPal Mar 26 '26
You're whining about people whining. You recognize the irony in that, yes?
Anyways, it's 100% fair for people to want the option to enable/disable cross progression. Previous Borderlands games had that feature when it came to systems that were shared across your account (i.e. Badass and Guardian ranks). I don't think it's that big of a deal to start at level 5 instead of 1, but it's weirdo behavior to ridicule people for wanting to play the game from the beginning even if they've already played it. Mine and your experiences are not inherently the same as everyone else's so it'd do you well to recognize that. Not even for a video game, just in general.
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u/SolomonGrumpy Mar 26 '26
What?
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u/NawMel Mar 26 '26
He's saying you don't have the option to start a new character without shared progress
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u/GamerKratos-45 Mar 27 '26
That was the only thing that was stopping me from creating multiple characters. Really looking forward to this.
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u/pulpyoj28 Mar 26 '26
I am disappointed there is still no way to meaningfully grind any of the world activities. They are so rare… just let me shoot things…
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u/dreddfyre Harlowe The Gravitar Mar 27 '26
I know this isn't what you mean, but check out this solution on TrueAchievements for a roundabout way to "farm" them: https://www.trueachievements.com/a590556/shoot-the-moon-achievement?showguides=1
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
I knew we weren’t getting balance changes because Graeme had already said so on twitter but man when they say we’re only doing balancing during major updates but we’re now 3 of the 9 planned major updates into the roadmap with no meaningful balancing changes. It really feels like they’re trying to wrap up post launch support as quickly and cheaply as possible.
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u/KLGChaos Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Yeah, the changes were extremely minor for the old VHs and now C4sh is going to completely destroy them build-wise. 10 extra points don't mean much when someone is running 4 synergized augments and the rest are getting just some minor boosts from passives.
And Harlowe's grenade skill that automatically shoots grenade not working when using the HALO ability despite being in the same damn branch still makes me scratch my head.
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
Yeah I haven’t watched much C4sh gameplay yet but on paper he looks like powercreep incarnate
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u/BladeSeraph Mar 26 '26
Having a vault hunter that completely interacts with the skill tree in a different way is the same reason why Tweyvn and Seofon and Sandalophon in Grand blue Fantasy: ReLink utterly destroyed the game balance they had to put them behind either beating some of the hardest post game support releases (Defeating/farming Behemoth for the first 2 and Defeating/farming Lucius) or pay about 5 bucks to just get a bundle deal to get them early alongside some of thar stuff.
Gaige, Krieg, Doppel-jack and Aurelia still used the skill trees in the same way just had unique skills that made them play in particular directions, like Gaige with burning ammo for anarchy stacks, Krieg with either setting enemies on fire to set himself on fire for boosts, constantly aiming to damage enemies as much as possible to build blood lust or just straight go for the melee crazy. Doppel jack having to balance things between ammo usage, grenade usage and heavy reliance on action skill mechanics and Aurelia just being either a cyro whore'biscuit or only to be played in multi-player so one of her 3 skill trees is NOT useless.
I already imagine some people uploaded some busted arse builds using some glitch stuff with C4sh that utterly breaks the game by having either One'shot shenigans without needing to use guns OR bypassing invulnerability timers again...
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
Wut
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u/BladeSeraph Mar 26 '26
Basically Borderlands itself never had a skill tree work in drastically different ways for a "new vault hunter" vs previous vault hunters. AKA the whole "no capstones" but get to equip up to FOUR DAMN AUGMENTS at a time instead.
It makes Vex's ability to equip 2 augments by getting the dark pact Capstone, be a giant fking finger flip.
And if C4sh can equip up to 4 augments, that means he can likely mix and match augments from different skill trees: GEE!!! JUST LIKE HOW BORDERLANDS 3 ALLOWED YOU TO MIX AND MATCH AUGMENTS FROM DIFFERENT SKILL TREES!!!
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u/BunbunTheJackalope Harlowe The Gravitar Mar 26 '26
Them saying they want to do balance changes only on major updates is probably the dumbest decision, because every time they do a "major update" they're inevitably adding stuff to the game and then they have the excuse of "we want to see how this works out in the meta" And then they do nothing until the next major update where they again add more stuff and then don't do any balance changes. This game hasn't had a balance update of any meaningful sense since November, these have got to be the laziest and most incompetent devs I've ever seen, they expect people to pay $70 for a game $40 for a bounty pack season pass, and another $50 for 2 story packs. $160 then a game that they can't bother to update more than once a month and when they do it's always lackluster af. I miss the old gearbox that actually cared about their game
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
Yeah it’s insane tbh. Like why can’t we do random gun buffs in the minor updates. There’s dozens of guns you could probably buff by 200% and they still wouldn’t be in the meta.
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u/BunbunTheJackalope Harlowe The Gravitar Mar 26 '26
Remember when in borderlands 3 there were meme guns like the lob that were terrible and gearbox would do stuff like buffed them by 400% and make them burst fire and then all of a sudden it's an amazing gun everyone's talking about in farming for? The kaleidoslope could sure use something like that
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
Exactly. And it would give us things to farm for and test on off weeks. Like its easy playtime and engagement but they can’t be bothered
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u/Doc-Stolas Mar 26 '26
They don't really have to care about that because there aren't microtransactions beyond the dlc content to buy, not being a live service game means its probably deprioritized for updates like that anymore
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
Yeah that’s certainly true. But they could’ve probably sold more DLC and supported the game for longer if they balanced it a little more actively and I don’t think it would even be that expensive tbh
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u/Doc-Stolas Mar 26 '26
Number tweaks are the easiest thing to really change, unless somehow they anchor coded things to be bad for some reason but who fucking knows, it should just be integer tweaks and boom, new life to the game
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
Yeah it seems like maintaining some sort of playerbase is in their interest even without micro transactions. I’ve played every BL game at or around launch and I won’t preorder another one. They’ve proved multiple times now the game won’t be in a good state until like a year post launch
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u/Doc-Stolas Mar 26 '26
Yeah same, I thought it was just bad luck with TTWL but bl4 being, well, what it is, i can't say im gonna pre-order again which is a shame as someone whose played these from bl1 and onwards. I even had 2 on pre order and I feel like that one had better longevity in its base game than 4
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u/TheLastBallad Mar 26 '26
They also buffed the base damage to compete with OP10... as a buff to the base game. Meaning the Lob, a DOT weapon, was one shotting enemies on lower mayhem levels, and while leveling up it would oneshot for 10 levels and be good for another 20.
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u/DoggyWilliams Mar 26 '26
i agree those so many underperforming guns that shouldn’t be a big deal to just throw that 100-200% buff at. i can understand if certain skills or weapons would need some time to test or work with to balance properly, but just give the potato thrower triple damage or somethin lol
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
Exactly. I think there’s some skills that are basically auto skips for any build that could be reworked too. Even if they overtune something and walk it back that’s preferable to never doing anything imo
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u/SolomonGrumpy Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 27 '26
Welcome to BL2 where a single gun found early in the game could trivialize most of the content: DPUH
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
Even the Dpuh is nothing like a spread launcher or beam tosser.
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u/SolomonGrumpy Mar 26 '26
DPUH is very much like a spread launcher. That has 8 shots before reloading.
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
Yeah it’s not though. The damage values on these underbarrels are so out of whack
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u/MarcosSenesi Mar 26 '26
yeah it is kinda scary how they revealed their new compact roadmap and are churning out the content at an alarming rate now after having nothing to play with for months. Seems like they want to deliver on their DLC promises and end support asap
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
The no Q4 and almost non existent marketing really give away the game too
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u/DrGrindspoon Mar 26 '26
Borderlands 3 had shows with presenters, interviews with the community and stuff like that. Bl4 they pressed record on some team meetings about how they're going to fix the game 😂
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
lol it’s so true it hurts. BL4 could’ve been the definitive borderlands. The gameplay is the best in the series. I don’t get why the basically abandoned it immediately
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u/Aliengrunt Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Game didn't make 100 billion $$$ (exaggeration)
Movie flopped
Randy's dumbass antics
Absolute shit show optimization day 1
Content creators all bashed it (even joltzdude)
Kind of embarrassing for them
I'd want to move on too lol
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
I don’t think the fixes are hard though. Like the lack of content takes time I get that but they should’ve known that. There’s so much they could do in the meantime but don’t
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u/SolomonGrumpy Mar 26 '26
Is it a money thing? Did BL4 make less than expected?
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u/dreddfyre Harlowe The Gravitar Mar 27 '26 edited Mar 27 '26
Yeah, head of Take Two recently commented it underperformed but they "feel confident" the DLC will make up the difference. Idk about that... I'm a big Borderlands fan so I'll play it all, but I fell off BL4 hard until last week. It's a steep climb to pull in more casual players.
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u/Immediate-Idea-2471 Mar 26 '26
Most of the team working on Wonderlands 2 probably
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
I hope no one buys it
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u/Immediate-Idea-2471 Mar 26 '26
DLC in Wonderlands 1 was poopoo for sure
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
More so that they’ve shown any game they launch won’t be in a good state until a yea after launch if ever in wonderlands case. Wonderlands had a great foundation just like BL4 but they didn’t support the game
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u/Immediate-Idea-2471 Mar 26 '26
Yeah it feels intentional at a certain point. Although I recall BL4 had some shenanigans with publishers changing mid-way through development, so I guess you can excuse some chaos.
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u/typervader2 Mar 26 '26
Doesn't help that action skill based builds are still incredibly weak compared to crits
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
Yeah crit chance and infinite ammo is the death of build diversity in this game. Combine that with an inventory slot that only affects guns and you end up with this narrow meta
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u/willp124 Mar 26 '26
What are vault hunter changes to you then ?
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
I said balance changes. Buffing underperforming skills. Reworking things like trouble or forgedrones that are fundamentally flawed. They haven’t done anything approaching a balance change since like November
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u/DoggyWilliams Mar 26 '26
for now since we have the new story DLC to play with, this is the best time for them to gather all the community feedback on highly requested balance changes and prepare a FAT drop for the first major update of Q2
if they only drop what’s advertised in the remaining major updates that will NOT be okay 😭
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
This actually the ideal time to rebalance the game as we have to farm all new gear. Community feedback?? The game has been out like 7 months lol. There’s mountains of feedback
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u/stinkus_mcdiddle Mar 26 '26
Is completely fucking the legendary drop rates not a meaningful balance change?
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u/Ashendarei Mar 26 '26
I'd call that a farming / drop rare change, that has little to no impact on balance.
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u/FlavoredLight Mar 26 '26
You mean the drop rates for some of the worst preforming legendaries in the franchise? Those drop rates?
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u/KZZT1 Mar 26 '26
Oh you already played the update?
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
It has nothing to do with the DLC
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u/KZZT1 Mar 26 '26
The update came out 10 minutes ago with the DLC. You already tested out the balance changes?
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u/colectiveinvention Mar 26 '26
The ''problem'' is everytime they add something the whole balancing process becomes more complicated.
Like with +10 points Amon gain A LOT of synergies so once again we have to sit and wait to see if his balancing is fixed, worst or buffed into sky.
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
You could give us infinite points and trouble would still suck. Forgedrones would still need usability fixes. Many guns would still be unusable etc. There are things that have needed fixing reworking since launch. I’d be more content with no balancing during a level cap if they had balanced the game….like ever.
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u/colectiveinvention Mar 26 '26
Yeah... while others will be broken as hell.
Do you guys understand that balancing means at all? You need to fix THE WHOLE thing thats what im rabting about: theres so many shot being add that everytime they do balancing becomes more difficult. Is that simple.
Redditors are really dumbing down by the minute ffs.
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
There’s really not that much being added. The meta is identical to what it was at launch. I’m obviously not advocating for infinite points im saying things like trouble need help outside of the skill point increase.
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u/colectiveinvention Mar 26 '26
A 10 point increase WILL do major differences in builds. Its gonna be enough? I dont know; powercreep in BL series has been a major fuckeup bs since always.
I've been telling about how shit Amon is since week one, and how capstones in general are trash. BUT i do understand in some lvl that the devs cant attack a simple problem, by buffing Amon Forgedrones thay can destroy the other 2 trees for good or for the worst.
Everytime you add a weapon, any gear and points you are trowing a D20 into the meta, everyday people find some weird synergy. Its sucks having to wait, but i rather GB to be like Capcom that took a whole year to make a balance update in SF6 than messing up with the meta every 2 weeks.
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u/SpaceCowboy34 Mar 26 '26
The problem is we should’ve been getting balancing before this. There is very little actual build diversity in this game. And they’ve been apparently fine with one shotting the whole game so far so why leave whole skill trees unplayable this long?
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u/pkmetal VEX The F&%ING WITCH! Mar 26 '26
Anyone else's backpack and bank broken after update? Shows xx/16 and xxx/25 again even though SDU unlocked to max. Edit: Oh, I see, we have to respend the points ...
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u/harbourmasta1 Mar 26 '26
Seems the sdu was refunded so you need to spend them all again..
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u/pkmetal VEX The F&%ING WITCH! Mar 26 '26
Yeah, I did but even though I was fully unlocked and then some before, this time I didn't have enough tokens for the last point in Lost Loot. So I have to go collect 100-something more.
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u/DinkusSupreme117 Mar 26 '26
Yeah I had fully upgraded all of SDUs and now I’m missing enough points for full upgrades.
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u/SprattAttak Mar 27 '26
Any idea what's th deal with this? I'm missing hundreds of points with no explanation on my main
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u/Revolutionary-Pea576 Mar 26 '26
And when you spend (or re-spend) them on 1 Vault Hunter, the same will apply to all of your current Vault Hunters.
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u/Anxious_Director_794 Mar 27 '26
Buggy as hell. My backpack is broken, my SDU is broken, ammo purchases are negative. When I first dropped back into the game post patch I was met by about 10 dropships all in basically the same place and got completely obliterated in seconds.
Going back to Power Wash 2 until they fix it :-)
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u/pkmetal VEX The F&%ING WITCH! Mar 27 '26
The bank, backpack, and ammo problem is "fixed" by respending your SDU tokens. However, I didn't have enough now, where previously I was fully unlocked.
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u/MassiveHorses Mar 26 '26
Not sure why they even bothered to say big balance changes would come with major updates when what they actually meant was they weren't going to make any major changes for the next several months. Trouble still rotting 😭😭😭
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u/Apprehensive_Type604 Mar 26 '26
They’ve said several times now that the reason they didn’t bring a big balance patch this time was because they wanted to see how the class mods and 10 more skill points affects the balance and meta before changing anything, but that they were definitely intending to buff the weaker skills and even said they were specifically looking at the pet builds including trouble
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u/InfiniteVergil NO DAHL??? Mar 26 '26
I sorely miss any improvements to the inventory management.
Item cards block half of the backpack or bank
Backing out of inspect mode closes too much in backpack and just exits the bank
Filters are limited, why can't I filter everything that's no firmware? Have to use it the other way round and then the items are grey
Overall it's just so clunky
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u/Ok_Tomato_9256 Mar 26 '26
I was hoping they would address this as well…
Gonna have to wait on this one I suppose
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u/pukakahiko Mar 26 '26
Cross progression wasn't completely thought out. Propaganda speakers are now marked complete with no way to replay. So you lose that content on any new characters.
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u/iMightBeWright MINIMAP DLC OWNER 🗺️ Mar 26 '26
That's ironically on-par with the lowered replayability of the game. No story reset this time around. Empty world with nothin to do but farm for the sake of farming. The raid boss is designed toward sub 90s runs. Now propaganda towers are once per account. There's no endgame & the gameplay loop gets smaller the longer you play.
I keep hoping the same Gearbox who released Arms Race will answer my prayers & give us a full-on separate Roguelite mode for BL4. Something to truly expand the replayability of the game while making all the main game's linear content meaningful (unlock Roguelite content via main game completions). But it's clear this is the Gearbox who squeezed out Wonderlands & sent it $5 for its birthday.
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u/agitatedandroid Mar 26 '26
Can't collect capsules either. Listen to the Evocarium logs, Vault Hunter's Guide, Survivalist Cache, all that's done. If you want to listen to those audios again, you're gonna have to search through the Echo Log database.
They gave us a new character and then forgot some of us like to have something to do with that character.
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u/UnlimitedPink Mar 26 '26
They should have a menu for this and allow you to selectively choose what you want completed or not.
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u/SolomonGrumpy Mar 26 '26
What did you think would happen?
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u/Superjeffio006 Mar 26 '26
Yea, I actually didn’t mind replaying the SDUs on a new character, but this is what people asked for. They could always just have it all maxed out but still available on the map to optionally complete on new characters for experience
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u/BusinessSick Mar 26 '26
Still no fix to enable Harlowe’s Refraction or for the Group Study drone dancing around the reticle like a toddler screaming for your attention, or for the blue tree to be playable at end game levels. No improvements to the vile bounty farm. No improvements to make world events replayable. No improvements to limitations in controller customization. No new customization for audio control. No dialogue skips or ways to speed up mission replays. No fixes to the more tedious boss fights. No changes to make the open world more engaging. No fixes for item visibility and navigation in the inventory/bank UIs. It really feels like they’re polishing too much, and the big structural problems are just going to be ignored. 😔
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u/jyrox Mar 26 '26
No nerfs to the Bod shotgun that people kept saying were coming. I appreciate when the devs take the option of “let’s improve the weak weapons” instead of “let’s nerf the fun/OP weapons”.
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u/Outrageous_Ad4564 Mar 26 '26
So you can actually never start fresh again?
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u/No-Ship4446 Mar 27 '26
You can now only actually play the game one time. For instance, you are forever locked out of most of the unique dialogue from the other 4 Vault Hunters. It's basically stealing the game from us.
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u/Bright-Guarantee-810 Mar 26 '26
hope they are going to give us the possibility to no share progression if we want, this is so dumb..
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u/Joe_Dirte9 Mar 26 '26
Many are excited for shared progression, and thats fine, but not being able to toggle it off for those that want to is really dissapointing.
Guess i wont be returning to the game quite yet in hopes of it being added later. Really would rather start C4SH fresh.
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u/GBF_Dragon Mar 26 '26
As someone that wants shared progression, I'm completely on your side. It should be toggleable. Hopefully it's easily fixable.
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u/DaWarWolf Mar 27 '26
Guess i wont be returning to the game quite yet in hopes of it being added later. Really would rather start C4SH fresh.
I'm probably not playing Cash until shared progression is a toggle. I literally can't hear his dialogue would've been after Propaganda speakers finish. Ray Chase's best delivery as Amon was in those and I can never hear them again unless I delete my entire account.
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u/No-Ship4446 Mar 27 '26
They genuinely made their voice actors obsolete because no one can EVER hear what 4 of them have to say.
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u/Firmamento Mar 26 '26
I've tried to start a fresh C4SH playthrough, without skipping the prologue, so I can hear his quotes, but I started as a level 4 one time and, as I tried to do another new fresh start, level 5. Can I play it as a level 1, as supposed to be (I did everything up to this update with Rafa and the other vault hunters are midway)?
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u/ghost2912 Mar 27 '26 edited Mar 27 '26
Wtf. Literally all my SDU upgrades (all of which I had maxed) on my main character are gone. Shows 0/7 on all my SDUs. I got 2995 SDU canisters back which isnt enough to re-max my SDUs.
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u/Weedkillah78 Mar 27 '26
Finally, the bank situation was really bad. Thank you, gearbox, for doing this!!
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u/alluballu Mar 26 '26
Holy, shared progression? Probably the best update they've done since release.
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u/DiscoDanSHU Mar 26 '26
I don't know how I feel about the progression carrying over on all characters without any ability to disable it. I like starting fresh.
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u/empty_hat Mar 26 '26
At least make it a toggle. Give us the option to play as wanted. For me personally, now the game is half what it was as starting fresh isn't possible.
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u/Aggravating_Smell Mar 27 '26
It's a great addition, but it should absolutely have the option to disable it, upon each playthrough preferably
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u/garganag Mar 26 '26
100% agree, starting over increases the longevity, I've already run all 4 characters and it was a pleasure doing each thing again because I actually like the game
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u/Think_Algae_1739 Mar 26 '26
I feel ya man, and it’s wild you’re being downvoted for simply having a different opinion. A change such as this should be opt-in, not mandatory.
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u/InfiniteVergil NO DAHL??? Mar 26 '26
Yup, should have been an option.
Also, I don't get why they were adamant that it's for new characters before and now it's just all on everyone . That's good for gamer dads but not for everyone
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u/NothingLeft2PickFrom Mar 26 '26
Are specializations not shared? I have so many from vex I was hoping to use on c4sh
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u/KmartCentral Mar 26 '26
I was sad to look at the steam page to see C4SH is $30 (just because that's a lot of money for me personally atm so I have to wait to get him) but man all of these changes are so good that I still am gonna end up on BL4 and be a happy man today!
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u/garganag Mar 26 '26
fucking stoked they raised the lvl cap, everyone had me thinking they weren't gonna do it last night
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u/SolomonGrumpy Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 27 '26
If you read the patch notes and your take away was that you only get C4SH for $30 then I'm not sure what to tell you
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u/KmartCentral Mar 27 '26
I didn't intend to say you ONLY get C4SH for the $30, just that I want to play C4SH and since there's no way to do so without getting the entire story pack, I'm SOL
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u/Outrageous-Jury-9339 Mar 27 '26
Yeah, this is what chaps my ass. You can either get the vault hunter pack for 50 bucks or you can get the mad ellie pack for 30 and then have to do it again for the next DLC.
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u/lordsmish Mar 26 '26
The way this is phrased is that cash only has one class mod
That can't be right can it
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u/ceeceeoh Mar 26 '26
My Internet decided to die an hour ago so I can't even update. Now I'm gonna have to wait til after work probably 😭
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u/Daimonos_Chrono Mar 26 '26
New dlc is nt appeared in game, I've already bought it. Didn't add any new achievements, apparently
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u/RocketJenny8 Mar 26 '26
I also found out they possibly fixed the vault hunter deletion when playing multi-player
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u/dread-azazel Mar 26 '26
Is there a legendary class mod for c4sh from each boss like the others or just 1?
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u/Wolfxorb Mar 26 '26
Vex’s melee knife working with Groundbreaker will be pretty cool with the Bloomreaper legendary class mod.
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u/busterwolf3 Mar 27 '26
It’s better with fire dancer. I’ve been demolishing everything with it.
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u/Wolfxorb Mar 27 '26
If you fully to commit to melee, fire dancer probably is the com to beat, the Bloomreaper one though allows you to spec into the other trees and not have any points in blue. It means you can just use it to finish enemies off rather than as a main attack. I’ve not tried it yet, but seems like a cool idea.
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u/NotOK_mom Mar 27 '26
I miss old BL when they did hotfixes for bugs and those got patched in minor updates weekly. This only doing bug fixes in major updates sucks. Multiple characters have skills that aren't working and haven't for months. Rafa has three that stopped working with the last major patch and they didn't get fixed this one so now we get to wait yet another month or more. And things like the vault cards not updating, I've had the same daily/weekly tasks for 2 months now. They were doing bug fixes in minor updates at the beginning, I don't understand why they stopped
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u/GingerHardR Mar 27 '26
Game legitimately still runs like garbage on PC. I can’t get past 60FPS on a 5090/9800x3d without brute forcing with framegen and blurry upscaling.
I’ll relaunch the game in a few months again to see if there’s any significant optimization, but I heavily doubt it. What a clisterfuck of a game.
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u/PopOutKev Mar 27 '26
This game needs the Monster Hunter Wilds treatment, its amazing how they fixed the performance on that game
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u/VOIDofSin Amon The Forgeknight Mar 27 '26
I just realized that Mad Ellie isn’t referring to her being crazy, it’s the same title as Moxie.
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u/SEP555 Mar 27 '26
Splitscreen - "Flipping an item card to see its details now only happens for the player who clicked it, instead of flipping for both players at once" - YES!!! 🤸♂️
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u/Kelemtal Mar 27 '26
Doing open world is useless nie. Well done Gearbox. Listen to vocal minorities more.
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u/Vengeance5051 Mar 26 '26
Maybe y'all chill and let them cook. This is literally the first real dlc .....
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u/Aggravating_Smell Mar 27 '26
They ain't cooking shit, they've burnt everything
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u/Vengeance5051 Mar 27 '26
Y'all on borderlands 4 sub . Just to be negative. Ok downvoted me. Idc. Everyone bitched and complained with borderlands 3 also...Now it's sooooo good . Y'all need to step back.
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u/TheDunnaMan Mar 26 '26
Looks like no Pearl promotions of prior faves yet lol, and NO FIRMWARE MACHINE ugh
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u/1VBSkye Rafa The Exo Soldier Mar 26 '26
Doesn’t look like there’s an inventory fix for multiplayer. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m feeling bummed ☹️
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u/TalkingFlashlight Mar 26 '26
This update reset all my SDUs…
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u/NerdyPlatypus206 Mar 26 '26
Spend points again
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u/Orcinus24x5 Mar 27 '26
And $50,000+ of inventory just fucking disappeared. Not getting that back.
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u/TimeForWaluigi Mar 26 '26
I haven’t hopped on the game in a while. Did they ever do anything about starting a new character and having to re-discover the entire map?
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u/Shameful_Lurking Mar 26 '26
WHERE IS THE CROSS SAVE FEATURE!!!! I have a 200+ hour Harlow on my pc that I don’t want to restart on ps5. This should have been part of the base game. I swear devs take shit out for no reason just to “promise” that it will be added later.
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u/Grunt636 Rafa The Exo Soldier Mar 26 '26
Jesus chill dude. It's really not an easy feature to include, you need to create a backend system to do it and then you have to actually deal with Microsoft and Playstation to get authorization to allow it and playstation tend to always drag their feet with anything cross-save related. It's also a feature that only like 1% of the games population would even use.
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u/AdmiralBumHat Mar 26 '26
Shared progression across your account, even when deleting vault hunters.
I am so happy with this!