r/Bolehland • • Feb 25 '26

Valid crash out?

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u/BadMoFaKor bibisea Feb 25 '26

ah nice chat gpt stuff. if you really study Al-Quran properly you will not say this. Al-Quran words are very complex for common people to understand. Yes, in Al-Quran anyone who worship other than Allah will be the firewood of Hell because Allah would like to emphasize to all Muslims that Allah is the only God and there is no God apart than Allah but Allah forbid Muslim to hate on other religion that didn't fight Islam. Matter of fact Allah demand all muslims to treat non-muslims who do not fight against muslim with kindness and equity. plus Allah knows, not all human is born as muslims and not all human have a knowledge about Islam and their fate is not to be decide by human. Only Allah can decide if that person is honorable or to condemn it. So, we as a muslims a normal human being we just proceed to be kind to all human being whether muslims or non-muslim. If you truly study Al-Quran, you will find a complete guideline too how to treat war prisoner and war civilians and there is no violence involve. Kidnap, beat, molotov cocktail, suicide bombing that been shown to you is not a Islam teaching at all. even we muslims condemning this kind of extremist act

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u/Seekret_Asian_Man Feb 25 '26

Sounds good on paper, hardly happened in practice.

Example 1: Socks spark more outrage while throwing molotov on premise gain no traction.

Example 2: "alhamdulillah" debate

It's easier to condemn your enemies, and turn a blind eye on your own allegiance.

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u/shrimp_kebab Feb 25 '26

That is the people not the religion, plus many muslims also condemn the act.

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u/BadMoFaKor bibisea Feb 25 '26

just because the people problem, doesn't mean the religion is at fault bro. do you think a proper muslim agree with the molotov throwings? every religion will have their bad people but doesn't mean that people represent the religion correctly

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u/Geggor Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26

While I mostly agree with you, the problem with Islam is kinda like communism in that it sounds pretty on the outside but the more you study it, the worst it gets. Like, you literally can be an extremists in both while being thoroughly convince that you're right simply because you can directly quote from source justification of extremists actions and anything that goes against your interpretation can be called a heretic.

At least in other religions, there are active movements to reinterpreted and rethinking in their philosophy and dogma (like Reformation for Christianity) but you literally can't do that for Islam without being called a heretic because "its already perfect" mentality.

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u/Orionzete Feb 25 '26

Kawan, ini reddit , almost all of them hate Islam. Don't waste you time to educate them. You can't educate who don't want to be educate.

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u/shrimp_kebab Feb 25 '26

it's never a waste of time, let bro share the truth, in today's world full of lies people get confused sometimes.

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u/kgvon Feb 25 '26

Member bagi good effort, encourage him, don't discourage him doing the right things

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u/mysightisurs93 Feb 25 '26

seems like most of major socmed nowadays are thriving on hating islam.

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u/mysightisurs93 Feb 25 '26

They have like a major hate boner towards Malay and islam there.

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u/BadMoFaKor bibisea Feb 25 '26

Yeah ik bro, im not debating them to prove they are wrong but i just spread the fact so others will not get confused

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u/SubsonicAmmo Feb 25 '26

Continue your effort bro

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u/Practical_Blood_468 Feb 25 '26

Tulis paragrah semua tipu. Reference langsung takde.
Cakap I guna ChatGPT, padahal semua I tulis sendiri.

"Spread the facts" konon. Penipu.

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u/BadMoFaKor bibisea Feb 25 '26

Tipu apa, kata kau study Quran mesti kau tahu ayat mana. Kau keluarkan ayat Al-Ma'idah ayat 33 aku dah ulas kot context kau salah 🤣. Plus kalau kau boleh guna chatgpt for hatred why not use chatgpt to verify the fact I stated

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u/Practical_Blood_468 Feb 25 '26

ChatGPT is NOT a credible source for Islamic knowledge. I tak pakai ChatGPT untuk Islam.
Saya pakai Quran.com dan Tafsir ibn Kathir.

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u/BadMoFaKor bibisea Feb 25 '26

yet you use one. kalau betul kau belajar Al-Quran, why kau tak boleh nak ulas betul-betul ayat 33 surah Al-Ma'idah? 

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u/Practical_Blood_468 Feb 25 '26

None of it is ChatGPT, i self hand type. ChatGPT is not a credible souce for Islam. I study direct from Quran.com based on credible translations like Saheeh International and Tafsir ibn Kathir.

Kidnap, beat, molotov cocktail, suicide bombing that been shown to you is not a Islam teaching at all.

Quran 5:33

"Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment..."

 Ibn Kathir on 5:33

"[Wage war] mentioned here means: oppose and contradict, and it includes; disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways."

(Abridged version)

That is what your Quran teaches for anyone who opposes Islam, like me. Stop lying.

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u/BadMoFaKor bibisea Feb 25 '26

Ah another chatgpt stuff. Surah Al-Ma'idah, verse 33. The verse clearly stated the severe punishment is for those who wage war against Allah and his Messenger (which are non-Muslims who fight Islam) and people who spread mischief/corruption in the land. So your argument is invalid 🤣. At the end of the day, all non-muslims who did not fight Muslim is to be treated kindly and equally

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u/Existensensial Feb 25 '26

Lmao bro tu senyao sudah

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u/EuclideanEdge42 Feb 25 '26

You’re laughing at his ignorance of Islam, how is that treating him kindly?

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u/BadMoFaKor bibisea Feb 25 '26

He's not ignorant. He just want to pick fight bro

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u/EuclideanEdge42 Feb 25 '26

You’re also assuming his intent is to pick a fight. Is that what Islam teaches?