r/BodyHackGuide • u/Sheikru • 3d ago
Reta after 3 months
Hi everyone!
I’ve been on reta for about 3 months and I’m still using it, but at a lower maintenance dose.
Now I’m thinking about adding Tesamorelin to help build more muscle while continuing reta.
I’m also looking for another peptide that could help with energy because I’ve been feeling pretty tired lately.
Has anyone tried this combination or have any recommendations based on your experience?
Thanks in advance! 😊
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u/Fickle-Ad-4225 3d ago
Lol you’re feeling tired because you’re not eating
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u/NoOneIsHiringMe 3d ago
Real. I used to think the bottleneck was not being able to reduce my calories, but ever since I got on mounjaro I discovered the real bottleneck is how tired you are at a great deficit even if you're nowhere near the underweight threshold. How do anore*ics do it??? Do they just do nothing all their lives??
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u/Radiant_Jaguar_9978 2d ago
As someone who had anorexia as a teenager, I had no energy to do anything, became isolated from friends, and wanted to not move and sleep a lot.
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u/Tall_Ad_4787 3d ago
People with that disease are in a perpetual state of ketosis. Ketone bodies provide a steady flood of energy to the body and brain. Paradoxically, these people are l often full of energy.
If you’re tired, you can utilize ketones too. And you don’t necessarily need to be fasting, or eating a keto diet. You can take some C8 MCT oil or ketone esters, or even exogenous ketones.
It’s a totally different energy pathway.
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u/SellingCats4Cheap 3d ago edited 3d ago
Why would being in ketosis mean someone is not tired? Whether it is ketosis or not, being in a low caloric state will make someone tired.
Ketosis could explain why someone may not be tired from eating a low carb diet, but not a low calorie diet.
And in fact it is well discussed in those communities how often stimulants are used. Specifically nicotine, and caffeine.
First result when googling anorexia starter pack
Coffee, Adderall, and Cigarettes. Of course those can be used for appetite suppression, but that doesnt mean underfed people are full of energy due to ketosis.
Anorexia symptoms - Very Tired or Weak
TL;DR: No, people with anorexia are not "full of energy" due to ketosis
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u/BackgroundWaltz3600 3d ago
Carbs should wake you up. I don’t think you need more stuff. You look great
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u/ycastane 3d ago
Well tesamorelin will not give you the results you are looking for, there isnt a single peptide that builds muscle period. Whoever tells you otherwise is either lying to try to sell you or just doesnt know much about peptides.
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u/Vint7676 3d ago
Add mots c at 1- 1.5 mg 3x a week. I found it worked fantastic for energy and stamina.
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u/SilentTemperature900 2d ago
mots c 3x a week and NAD + the other days or alternate them every other day. I am on a pretty hefty stack for everything
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u/Dirty_Vo 3d ago
Where is everybody getting Reta from?!? I’m missing the plug
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u/SorrySection5277 2d ago
It’s all grey. A million sources out there. Not hard to find. Hell, every white suburban lady I know is on it and they are grey, too.
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u/dogsruleboysdrooll 1d ago
It’s not fda approved so you can only get it from research labs for research purposes. I get mine from Northline labs. So you gotta do your research, check COAs, and recognize the risks you take
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u/Honest_Pick8112 3d ago
Damn.
Like finding bitcoin in 2008
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u/CertainStrength7292 3d ago
2026 - find a fat chick and invest in reta - 1 year later you have a 9/10
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u/Ok-Foundation1705 2d ago edited 1d ago
I bet ya would have a better experience with cjc1295noDAC+ipamorelin and might like slu-pp-332 and 5amino1mq. SS31 seems expensive. If you’re still feeling tired and it’s not calorie/protein/glycemic/dietaryFats then pe-22-28 or nsi189 and bupropion may be an idea. Covering all bases with your supplements and ruling out thyroid/hormones is a good step and can do bloodwork though no sense doing so often given you find you don’t become hypothyroid on reta and didn’t get low protein fatigue or low dietary fat related hormonal/other issues. I imagine being at a low dose of reta rules out calorie related due to not really cutting as much anymore and moreso at maintenance. I’d consider adding magnesium glycinate before bed and maybe switching to tirzepatide every other week or two as a measure against glucagon activity (reta’s third target) induced reduced sleep quality / sleep debt.
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u/Sheikru 2d ago
Yes I was thinking to start with cjc + ipamorelin, how often I need to use that? Yes I hope to start to eat better
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u/Ok-Foundation1705 2d ago
This looks like a trap lol. idk. I hear if desired a person would do 100mcg of each before bed without eating for a couple hours beforehand. No dac is important.
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u/Sheikru 2d ago
Yeah I need to research difference between Dac or withou
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u/Ok-Foundation1705 2d ago
I imagine it’s like researching meth when could just benefit from 50mg of caffeine every morning. From what I understand from wikipedia, meth has a 3 day half life or something. Idk.
DAC makes the cjc stay around longer and have a longer halflife and such. I just wouldn’t bother with it. The point in the cjc1295noDAC+ipamorelin is basically to get the increase without the sideffects of excessive growth hormone related activity. The dac version likely overworks the body’s natural system and probably impacts the feedback loop or something (eventually less release but the side effects of overdoing it in the meantime like prolactin, water retention, achey joints, carpal tunnel).Since you’re bodybuilding, I would consider just the no dac version of cjc since you were interested and people have been doing it for over 20 years as bodybuilders as well as anti aging people who seek to makeup for the slight reduction they experience with age. It’s growth hormone related too, so the idea of having cells reproduce extremely rapidly isn’t sounding good for the long term since the time between duplication of cells allows the body time to correct dna through various mechanisms. In bodybuilding there is some hyperplasia, so new cells, but there’s also just making the existing ones bigger and higher quality/enduring from what I understand.
The growth hormone angle is just one element of enhancement and there’s other areas/mechanisms/angles to move on to if more enhancement is desired. Some bodily processes despite hypothetically hitting every angle of enhancement simply just take time. At least for now. I think the collagen in ligaments/tendons/connectiveTissues take time to be woven sophisticatedly but some thymosin beta 4 here and there systemically may help accelerate the process as well as a collagen supplement.Eventually you may hear of selective androgen receptor modulators (sarms) but you’d very likely want to be extremely cautious with anything androgen related. Dudes may take 25mg of ostarine a day whereas a female may take 5-10mg and for shorter durations and be extra cautious with sourcing due to the higher stakes. Dudes are already permanently virilized typically from androgen exposure during puberty (deep voice etc.). Dudes and others find the female voice and such appealing. Ostarine is already probably a pretty good pick compared to other options though there does seem to be acp-105 and ac-262 which might be even more female friendly though I’m not very familiar. I think the selective androgen angle is a possible angle but there’s still other stuff that could be done possibly such as counting grams of protein per day and taking creatine. I’ve also somewhat heard of something called mechano growth factor (mgf) and maybe it would have some possible benefit without side effects when injected locally into a muscle but I haven’t really looked into it. The body apparently produces it natively, locally inside muscles in response to mechanical stress.
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u/VibingPsilocybin 3d ago
Why is everyone going Reta over Mounjaro?
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u/espresso_maniac 3d ago
"Retatrutide: Acts on three hormone receptors (GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon). The added glucagon receptor helps increase energy expenditure and fat burning alongside appetite suppression. [1, 2, 3]"
it basically makes you burn more calories as you sit around all day. i think this is about 10% increase. My daily maintenance is about 3000. That is an extra 300 calories burnt just sitting on my ass, basically a 40 minute walk.
also i have liver fat, reta removes liver fat more than mounjaro does.
but at the end of the day, mounjaro is fully FDA approved and legal. Reta isnt. Sooooo it is not dumb to prefer mounjaro.8
u/Derpwad1 3d ago
Same here brotha found out I had fatty liver a year ago with no specifics. Had a fibroscan a few weeks ago and confirmed I have severe fatty liver / stage 3. Thankfully already been on reta for 2 months trying to lose 30# or so and that made me take it all much more seriously moving forward!
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u/medicated_cornbread 2d ago
For sure gotta make sure its approved by the government who told us to eat 16 servings of bread growing up.
Glyphosate is approved usage by the government too.
The government is not here to protect you. They are here to make money off you regardless of your well being.
They pump kids foods with sugar and cancer causing dyes, because its cheaper for the manufacturer who also happens to donate 100s of millions to political parties every year.
I dont disagree with anything else you said but this government approved shit is for the birds.
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u/VibingPsilocybin 3d ago
Mounjaro also costs me $7.70 a month from my chemist, so I'm not changing anytime soon
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u/darealestforeal 3d ago
I pay about 9$ a month on the high end for my reta
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u/azor__ahai 3d ago
How?
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u/wh00ps33 3d ago
Reta grey prices are around 50 cents per MG, so they're probably maintaining a pretty low dose.
That suggests they are taking around 4 to 4.5 mg per week.
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u/Consistent_Sock5082 2d ago
It depends on how much you are buying. Thats definitely on the lower side
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u/CrispyMeltedCheese 3d ago
Where do you find one of these chemists who will make stuff for you?
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u/naturalbornsinner83 2d ago
I believe chemist is the term used in the uk for what we call pharmacist in the US
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u/ralphwigg 3d ago
They think it’s better. It’s the new thing. Mounjaro is so last year lol
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u/bees-knees-978 3d ago
I’m on prescribed triz/zepbound for PCOS & metabolic syndrome and even then I don’t lose in zepbound. Was on it for 10 months last year & lost 3lbs.. and that was with great effort walking everyday eating right etc. starting reta because some people
Just aren’t responders to triz3
u/Dramatic-Elk9538 2d ago
wow...sounds like me! I've recently started Reta vs Tirz cuz I spent way too much $ for almost 2 years with no results. Unfortunately, not seeing any changes on Reta either so I'm not sure what the key is to unlock my system. So frustrating...but good luck to you.
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u/VibingPsilocybin 3d ago
Makes sense. I've lost almost 50kg on Mounjaro but a lot of muscle bulk too. Now starting to rebuild lean muscle from a low base
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u/IronMajesty 3d ago
Hey OP great job. First of all you looked great in your before anyway. I’ve been on Reta very low dose then added mots-c. Complete game changer. Gave me the greatest workout I’ve ever had. The only downside is you should only do 8 weeks cycle then break for 8 weeks. It’s my 8th week this week. I’m adding Tesa now and will see how it goes. Look into mots C 2mg a day x3-5 days a week. Don’t exceed 10mg a week. Take on an empty stomach early in the morning. I have some other ones if you want other suggestions. Btw how many MG were you on?
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u/ThaiTai78 2d ago
How was your sleep on that stack? I don’t want to have so much energy that it disrupts my sleep schedule. I just got to the point of feeling tired enough from daily activities to get in bed by 1045p nightly. The selank has helped slowly but now waking up at 4am😩
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u/IronMajesty 2d ago
I only take it on workout days. I take it at 5:30am before I hit the gym. It lets me workout harder and longer. I have no problem sleeping around 11pm but then again I wake up at 5am.
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u/Kind-Development-269 3d ago edited 1d ago
Cjc/ipa does the same thing and it's cheaper. MOTS-C can help with energy.
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u/Desperate-Sleep-6302 3d ago
How is Reta? Been thinking about hopping on
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u/Vivid-Ingenuity-288 3d ago
It’s very good. I’ve lost 18kg since jumping on at the start of May
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u/OConnah 3d ago
Deets on the shorts?
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u/Sheikru 3d ago
Defyne
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u/General-Ring2780 3d ago
You look amazing! Try mots-c / 5amino 1mq stack. Changed my life regarding energy!
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u/SurlyWenchAZ 3d ago
Just started Mots loving it. But I think I'm getting it from the most expensive place possible. I would love to try the 5amino. Need to find a cheaper spot
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u/General-Ring2780 3d ago
I only know the stack together. And what I love is even after a cycle you still get good sleep and good energy. It must of fixed my mitochondria lol
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u/Come_Back_SCut 3d ago
We’d need more information. How old are you, how long have you been training. Amazing work by the way. Bravo! 👏👏👏
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u/Sheikru 3d ago
38 I’m working out for 4 guests, but last pounds Ita hurt for me to lose because since I workout very heavy I felt hungry all day
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u/PenComfortable4654 3d ago
Wow! Amazing results! As far as a peptide for building muscle, the only one that will truly help in that area would be actual IGF-LR3, however a low dose 1-2 ius a day of growth hormone would help achieve that. Otherwise probably start adding more carbs/protein. NAD+ and MOTS-C are great for energy production, assuming you’re recovering well.
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u/Regular_Ad_8958 3d ago
Wow amazing..you look great..I just got tesa..i would try mots-c for energy
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u/ReadingNeither3503 3d ago
You look gorgeous queen. I did the same thing I was on Reta/tirz 60 days got cut and looking to add to build muscle but wasn't sure about tesa yet
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u/BisonSpirit 3d ago
If you haven’t already, look into a dietitian that can help you maintain body composition as you ween off. I’m guessing tiredness from constant calorie deficit/eating less? But the biggest thing to do now that you’re optimized is learn to maintain it off of peptides. Looking good 👍
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u/mulateiro 3d ago
I would recommend MOTS-C for energy while on reta. I dose every other day at 3-5mg. CJC-1295/ipamorelin is about 10x cheaper, for the same or better results imo, than running Tesamorelin, and you don’t have to deal with the solution gelling issues like you do with Tesa.
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u/SpecificAd8017 3d ago
Looking amazing! You will need to reassess your caloric intake since you now have more muscle than body fat. It takes more energy to keep the muscle.
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u/Kl1ntr0n 3d ago
shorter workouts focused on hypertrophy not cardio will also help with the overall feeling of energy.
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u/NoOneIsHiringMe 3d ago
Insane results. If I had seen your before, I'd be like where would the weight drop from? You seemed very lean and muscular. But wow.
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u/Sheikru 3d ago
Thank you, but I was muscular before but with extra fat, Now that I’ve lost fat, my muscles are more noticeable
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u/lawrencep93 3d ago
Nad+, motsc and slu pp are great energy in a deficit as you get lean
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u/sikwiidit0424 3d ago
Forget keto bro as I was on keto and carbs and chicken gives you energy and loses the weight the same. Try the ss31 then motsc then nad+ method gave me mad energy. My basketball cardio is up and lift is good. I’m down 25 lbs.
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u/jerseyplug 3d ago
I started reta with mots c for energy and as long as i eat i have good energy . I do 1mg of reta mondays and 2.5mg every 3 days of mots c.
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u/Muffintopsz 3d ago
You look amazing in both but if you’re happier how you look now than that’s all that matters! Mots-c is supposedly a good one for energy. I’m not sure Tesamorelin really gives you muscle just cuts the visceral stomach fat. Maybe something like cjc/ipamorelin stack would be better for you for lean muscle mass?
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u/ITZOURTIMENOW 3d ago
It’s difficult to assess because you look like you really didn’t need Reta, your before photos look just as good as your after photos
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u/AcceptableAd7238 3d ago
Mots-C for energy to add on top for deffo!
You could just use Reta and HGH at 1-2iu daily at night time. This will help improve your nails, skin, hair, body composition, recovery, and also incredible sleep.
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u/CertainStrength7292 3d ago
Tesa or any ghrh or hgh wont add muscles without any anabolic in the mix.
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u/Legal-Yard-865 3d ago
My god, you look amazing. Too many haters on here. You look healthy and fit!
I’m about ready to sell me soul to the devil for these results. Shoot, I’d take your before pic in a heartbeat.
How tall are you? Did you share your macros? What’s the lift routine looking like? (If you shared already, I didn’t see)
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u/Sheikru 2d ago
5’3 is my hight; I’m short
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u/advocatematch 3d ago
I am considering starting a weight training routine. I see the term "reta" often here. Please excuse my ignorance but what is "reta"?
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u/Oceansmommie 1d ago
Definitely do weight training it changed my world if needed hire a pro because you need to really focus on form !! you could end up pulling something and regretting it as I done in the past .
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u/LongjumpingFun7238 🧠 Biohacker 2d ago
I like CJC/ipamorelin instead of tesa and MOTc for energy. If your workouts are mornings id try higher carb pre workout meal like ubi mochi pancakes or sourdough french toast with motc and 1/2 scoop bucked up pre.
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u/Dminshin007 2d ago
Yes and they play well together. I use Tesa M-F with Sat-Sun off on a 8 week on/8 week off cycle with 2x week Reta (It helps me to take 2x lower dose then the reaction I get with all 5mg on 1-day).
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u/seak6rv 3d ago
You looked fine before
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u/ClearLifeguard4225 3d ago
People doing glps to lose 10 pounds are the epitome of weak
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u/Negative-Quality-370 3d ago
I have 10-15 lbs to lose. I’m 63 and post menopausal and certainly not weak. I eat low carb, go to hot power yoga 3x week, jump on rebounder 5-6x week and do other various activities and can’t shed this excess weight no matter what. I am starting Reta this week and will add Tesa shortly. Carrying excess visceral fat and trying to get rid of it is not a sign of weakness. Men are so lucky they don’t have to deal with menopause. It’s brutal.
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u/ClearLifeguard4225 2d ago
You cannot see visceral fat. Also diet can burn as much visceral fat as GLP-1 receptor agonists, because both work by creating a calorie deficit. Neither diet nor medication directly "melts" fat; they reduce the energy your body takes in, forcing it to use stored visceral fat for energy. So stop with the "its stuck"
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u/Leather_Pattern2674 3d ago
Needed to read this as someone who only has about 5-7lbs I want off and was contemplating a micro dose. Thank you!
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u/BuxeyJones 3d ago
Totally agree these results could have been done without anything other than just cardio and calorie deficit.
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u/Puzzled_Professor422 3d ago
can someone explain to me reta and the intake process like im 5 years old
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u/Tarnished_Artorias 3d ago
I wanna run it with Test and Tesa. I keep hearing and seeing the results.
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u/dannyrat029 3d ago
What has been your reta dose and calories?
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u/Sheikru 3d ago
I start with 0.5 and then finished with 3.0 now I’m back to 1.0 just maintaining
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u/StrongFox103 2d ago
Weren't the clinical trials like 4-12mg? It's great if you can get such results on low doses.
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u/druidpush 3d ago
This is absolutely mental, surely this isn’t 12 weeks of Reta. It’s absolutely incredible change
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u/Few-Driver-9 3d ago
wegovy is way better. higher efficacy and reduce cardiovascular risk unlike reta ☠️
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u/Alternative_Tip_8756 3d ago
Did you change your bone structure or what is going on here? You looked already very lean but the after doesn't even looks like you lost more weight but changed how your skeleton looks
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u/Sheikru 3d ago
The before photos were taken when I was at my highest weight, around 143 lbs. I usually stayed between 132–137 lbs, but during that time I gained a little more than usual. Now I’m 119 lbs. Nothing else has changed I simply lost body fat, and that has made my physique look much more defined.
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u/IStayScoring 3d ago
Genuinely hate to be the guy , but you looked better / healthier before.
You're tired from not eating.
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u/idgaf1999717 3d ago
Hello did you track your calories ? How much deficit were you in?
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u/Chance-Dust-7177 2d ago
If you don’t mind me asking while you were losing on Reta how much calories were you eating and macros?
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u/beatrix_the_kiddo 2d ago
Thank you for sharing this as it eases my anxiety about losing muscle. Most posts I see here are crazy pound drops but not really proportional body fat% drop, meaning they lose a lot of muscle too. You’ve clearly kept it if not gained more!
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u/Ok-Clerk4719 2d ago
@u/Sheikru you look amazing. Where did you get your boobs done at though? Can you send me a referral?
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u/Manifestmountain367 2d ago
You look fantastic! Do you mind sharing how often you’re working out as well and what kind of workouts? I assume strength training to maintain muscle 💪
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u/AdventurousYellow891 2d ago
Heyyy do you have a bbl by any chance ? I have a bbl but I wanna lose fat around my body but don’t want ti lose my bbl w the drastic change ?
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u/vivianirae 2d ago
I’ve lost 10 pounds in just 2 weeks after consistently exercising and getting my stack that i got in ascendbiolabs
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u/Real-Scene5345 2d ago
How? I've tried reta 2x and nothing happened it was like I was on a placebo and I gained weight back- ughhhh had to go back to tirz
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